In Toms Hardware preview of Haswell, even with all the enhancements, quad haswell was still well behind the 3930 in heavily MT apps, so I dont think we can ever count of a quad even with HT being close to a hex core, especially since the hex cores are HT as well.
Im not happy with intel selling OLD Cpu's in extreme guise tbh.
I want a 6 core but i want a haswell one and i want it when it launches in quad core.
In Toms Hardware preview of Haswell, even with all the enhancements, quad haswell was still well behind the 3930 in heavily MT apps, so I dont think we can ever count of a quad even with HT being close to a hex core, especially since the hex cores are HT as well.
I honestly don't get this either, and i'm not a fan of it. Don't get me wrong, the SB-E is a beast of a CPU -- but I just can't understand why intel is releasing the E/X parts with old technology. Intel certainly has the ability to release hexa core versions of the latest parts instead, so why not? I mean, Haswell as a hexa core would bring about tons of benefits to the platform, such as increased efficiency and better overclocking as compared to the IB architecture. This *could* also potentially give intel more revenue, since they can release new motherboard chipsets with additional features that were absent on X79, such as RST SSD caching (absent on x79) and Sata Express (successor to Sata 6GB/s). More revenue and potentially more buyers of the platform as compared to IB-E.
So yeah, I don't get their way of thinking on this -- why don't they? I probably *would* go with Haswell-E if it were being released this September. But IB-E? Eh. I dunno. There's a good chance I'll just get a 4770k and call it a day.
I understand that and I wanted the same thing when sandy was released, but Intel doesn't provide that option anymore. You can't buy the best of the best until it is about to be overtaken by the next gen mid range. Sort of takes the fun out of buying enthusiast class hardware if you ask me.
Exactly. I wanted to buy Haswell-E but what is the point when Skylake will launch soon afterwards. I wish the enthusiast platforms launched first like X58/Bloomfield did a couple of years ago.
LGA2011 is a workstation/server platform and gets validated after that principle.
Seems some people easily forget that and think the LGA2011 platform is made for the niche of people that use it from gaming and such.
Just thinking .. or trying to, but say, take the USB bug of early haswell that we know is coming, would that fly in the E+ space? I am thinking problary not. Getting to the broad audience first problary has a lot of advantages and oppertunities to refine the product for mission critical stuff... again, just trying to think here. I dunno.
Whats the next complain? That we cant use dual and quad CPUs on the desktop for cheap? That we are somewhat entitled to 15 cores because thats what the EX got?
How many of those heavily MT tasks are realtime dependent? How many are done at home?
Okay, so make it a niche product I want instead of a niche product that I don't want. I would easily get a Haswell E if it were released in September, and intel could do it IF they wanted to. Obviously they don't want to.
There are plenty of users who just get the fastest IPC quad core which performs basically the same in games and a ton of other apps. If the E/X line of CPUs weren't using OLD technology, perhaps that would sway some buyers in the other direction - I know it would for me. But intel won't do it, for whatever reason. OH well. Certainly intel doesn't cater to my needs and they can do whatever they want to do, and that's cool. I do feel it would sway quite a few buyers into the more lucrative E/X platform.
So intels extreme edition is now relegates to work stations and servers?
Doesnt make sense.
The extreme series is nothing but a bastard of the workstation/server segment. Its so painfully obvious. Including the chipset without USB3 and only 2 SATA6 ports. Hence why we got K series on the desktop platform as well.
Those were not supported were they?
Thats why they arent featured...
USB 3 dropped with Ivy
Ivy on on LGA11xx supports USB3. It just shows what governs the LGA2011 platform. And its not gaming users.
Yeh intel has abandoned the enthusiast.
One of the reasons why i hate intel.
Abandoned the enthusiast? You're going over the top with the hyperbole here. Intel is the ultimate company for the enthusiast, even if they're not releasing Haswell E this fall. What the heck is this?
Whats the next complain? That we cant use dual and quad CPUs on the desktop for cheap? That we are somewhat entitled to 15 cores because thats what the EX got?
How many of those heavily MT tasks are realtime dependent? How many are done at home?
I'm guessing your browser doesn't have any form of spell checking since grammar isn't your priority? I'm sorry, I hate being THAT GUY who is the grammar nazi -- I can't even comprehend what you typed. Having some semblance of expressing thoughts in a coherent manner was just common courtesy, I thought? Maybe not?
But look at you, YOU ARE THAY GUY. Congrats. Be proud .
Whatever you are able to comprehend or not is not something that weighs heavy on me, but have fun with it dude .
[grammer == spell checking? Think we need browsers with logic checking too.]
I think I am going to wait for DDR4??? You buy a new motherboard and the next revision they come out with DDR4. That would be a bummer.
I think I am going to wait for DDR4??? You buy a new motherboard and the next revision they come out with DDR4. That would be a bummer.