Yeh intel has abandoned the enthusiast.
One of the reasons why i hate intel.
Define enthusiast please.
Yeh intel has abandoned the enthusiast.
One of the reasons why i hate intel.
People who used to upgrade on a 12 monthly cycle.
Same people who buy a new GPU every time they are released.
People who would buy an 8 core Haswell CPU if it dropped just to play Crysis 3 on.
Yeh intel has abandoned the enthusiast.
One of the reasons why i hate intel.
And AMD hasn't? Their biggest accomplishments and a majority of their efforts are going into APUs and SoCs, which are definitely not desktop enthusiast fare. We don't even know when FX-line Steamroller is coming out.
Intel, at least, can be counted on to make releases pretty consistently.
And AMD hasn't? Their biggest accomplishments and a majority of their efforts are going into APUs and SoCs, which are definitely not desktop enthusiast fare. We don't even know when FX-line Steamroller is coming out.
Intel, at least, can be counted on to make releases pretty consistently.
"Intel could it just chooses not to."
- what the .. are you questioning the numbers game? It is not intels responsibility to maintain moores law or whatever.. there is need and demand, and to fill that demand there is companies like amd and intel and .......
It is a numbers game, if it doesnt PAY UP to push "enthusiast" why the hell should they? I dont get it, please tell me. - Cause you think it would be the right thing to do? Cause it would be the right thing for humanity? Then you're living in the wrong part of town where we have democracy and free markets.
Granted, intel releases consistently, unfortunatey IvB and most likely haswell have been marginal improvements on the desktop: no increase in cores, no increase in clockspeed, and minimal improvements in IPC.
Intel is to busy pushing ultrabooks which no one is buying.
They arent the first company to start ignoring its customer base in favour of what they want to push. Microsoft is doing a great job of that with windows 8.
Basically intel is selling the same CPU today since Nehalem.
IF it wasnt for my sucky i7 950 i wouldnt be upgrading. I think this will be my last desktop for a very long time.
AMD cant really compete on performance right now can it.
Intel could it just chooses not to.
This is why i dislike them tbh.
Another thing that sort of taints everything CPU related, is my worry (or joy) that the PS4 will give rise to games that NEED 8 cores. What if they need 8 real cores and HT won't cut it? Seems any hex core will be slightly sub standard in that case. Someone tell me I am precisely wrong about this and that 6c/12t CPUs will be more than enough for PS4 ports.
Another thing that sort of taints everything CPU related, is my worry (or joy) that the PS4 will give rise to games that NEED 8 cores. What if they need 8 real cores and HT won't cut it? Seems any hex core will be slightly sub standard in that case. Someone tell me I am precisely wrong about this and that 6c/12t CPUs will be more than enough for PS4 ports.
Um, 8 weaksauce Atom-like cores aren't going to outperform 4 beefy cores in games. Just because the games will find something to do with those cores doesn't mean that you can't still get better performance from faster cores.
We don't even knowwhenif FX-line Steamroller is coming out.
FTFY
Another thing that sort of taints everything CPU related, is my worry (or joy) that the PS4 will give rise to games that NEED 8 cores. What if they need 8 real cores and HT won't cut it? Seems any hex core will be slightly sub standard in that case. Someone tell me I am precisely wrong about this and that 6c/12t CPUs will be more than enough for PS4 ports.
LGA2011 is a workstation/server platform and gets validated after that principle.
Seems some people easily forget that and think the LGA2011 platform is made for the niche of people that use it from gaming and such.
I understand that and I wanted the same thing when sandy was released, but Intel doesn't provide that option anymore. You can't buy the best of the best until it is about to be overtaken by the next gen mid range. Sort of takes the fun out of buying enthusiast class hardware if you ask me.
Splitting the work evenly among 8 cores from a coding perspective is going to be very difficult. If they manage to do it, on the flip side, it is extremely easy to just put 2 or of those threads onto one core. Since each core on a modern Intel desktop CPU is at least twice as fast as a Jaguar core (and almost certainly faster, accounting for clock speed differences and IPC together) it can handle twice as much stuff at the same time.
Hard to split the work but easy to consolidate it.
Another thing that sort of taints everything CPU related, is my worry (or joy) that the PS4 will give rise to games that NEED 8 cores. What if they need 8 real cores and HT won't cut it? Seems any hex core will be slightly sub standard in that case. Someone tell me I am precisely wrong about this and that 6c/12t CPUs will be more than enough for PS4 ports.
Um, 8 weaksauce Atom-like cores aren't going to outperform 4 beefy cores in games. Just because the games will find something to do with those cores doesn't mean that you can't still get better performance from faster cores.
6c/12t CPUs will be more than enough for PS4 ports.Someone tell me I am precisely wrong about this and that 6c/12t CPUs will be more than enough for PS4 ports.