4870 or 5770

[ebberz]

Just ordered a bunch of parts that were all allegedly in stock.

However it turns out the 1GB Sapphire 4870 I ordered is no longer in stock and they can't give me a firm date when it will be back.

I was thinking about switching to the 1GB 5770 which is actually slighlty cheaper.

That is until I read the latest article on the main website which states it underperforms the 4870....

Just wondering what I should do?
Will the introduction of better drivers etc make the 5770 better in the long run?

I don't want to hold off too long for this card as it's part of my new builds with most of the other parts already on their way to my door!

Thanks

 

[Vertibird]

Just look for another HD4870 if you don't like 5770 or 5850.

 

[Ben90]

....get a different 4870? Sapphire isn't the only video card dealer

 

[ebberz]

True but the rest are also out of stock..

 

[BladeVenom]

I see plenty of 4870's with 1GB at Newegg. The XFX is the cheapest, and offers the best warranty.

 

[happy medium]

Originally posted by: ebberz
Just ordered a bunch of parts that were all allegedly in stock.

However it turns out the 1GB Sapphire 4870 I ordered is no longer in stock and they can't give me a firm date when it will be back.

I was thinking about switching to the 1GB 5770 which is actually slighlty cheaper.

That is until I read the latest article on the main website which states it underperforms the 4870....

Just wondering what I should do?
Will the introduction of better drivers etc make the 5770 better in the long run?

I don't want to hold off too long for this card as it's part of my new builds with most of the other parts already on their way to my door!

Thanks

if you can get a 5770 cheaper then a 4870 then i would go for it!!

 

[nOOky]

4890 or GTX260!

 

[RussianSensation]

$170 4890 Sapphire Vapor-X

I also see a bunch of 5770s for $160 before shipping in stock at Newegg. But for only $10 less than the 4890 (and probably $5 difference once you factor in shipping), 5770 is in no man's land.

 

[NA1NSXR]

It depends on your requirements on footprint, heat, and power. The 5770 is really cool and power efficient compared to any 4850 and up 48xx.

 

[Tempered81]

yes 5770 is cooler, shorter, more power efficient, and overclocks better. It comes with dx11 + eyefinity, 40nm, etc.... Priced at $160 and performing about 98% of a 4870... I would just go with russiansensation's suggestion for that Awesome vapor-x 4890 on the cheap. Then you're reaching stock 5850 terrirtory, and much higher than even OC'ed 5770 terrirtory, for what 10 or 15 bucks more?

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: Tempered81
yes 5770 is cooler, shorter, more power efficient, and overclocks better. It comes with dx11 + eyefinity, 40nm, etc.... Priced at $160 and performing about 98% of a 4870... I would just go with russiansensation's suggestion for that Awesome vapor-x 4890 on the cheap. Then you're reaching stock 5850 terrirtory, and much higher than even OC'ed 5770 terrirtory, for what 10 or 15 bucks more?

a 4890 is 5850 territory? the only thing the 4890 has over the 5770 is bandwidth which does give it a fairly significant gap that the 5770 cant close. but at the same time the 5850 looks to have a very large gap over the 4890 though. if anything the 5770 is much much closer to 4890 than the 4890 is to the 5850.

 

[v8envy]

There is also a nearly $100 price gap between the 5850 and 4890, whereas the gap 4890 to 4770 is approximately zilch.

If you look at game benchmarks and not just at hardware specs the 5850 does not outperform the 4890 by a tremendous margin. In fact, the margins are often smaller than the delta between 5770 to 4870, never mind 4890. This may change with better drivers, but at the moment $/performance is squarely with the 4890.

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: v8envy
There is also a nearly $100 price gap between the 5850 and 4890, whereas the gap 4890 to 4770 is approximately zilch.

If you look at game benchmarks and not just at hardware specs the 5850 does not outperform the 4890 by a tremendous margin. In fact, the margins are often smaller than the delta between 5770 to 4870, never mind 4890. This may change with better drivers, but at the moment $/performance is squarely with the 4890.

um the 5770 is only about 10% slower than a 4870. the 4890 is certainly not that close to the 5850 is it?

 

[ebberz]

Sorry this is UK money

Sapphire 4890 Vapor-X = £161
Sapphire 4870 = £121 (out of stock)
Sapphire 5770 = £111 (so that's 15 US dollars cheaper than the 4870)
Gainward GTX260 216 = £111

 

[veri745]

at those prices, I think your decision is purely between the 5770 (with DX11, Eyefinity, low power) and the GTX260(Physx, CUDA).

I guess it depends on if you're more interested in features or framerates, but the price premium for the 4890 doesn't seem worth it to me.

 

[Tempered81]

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: v8envy
There is also a nearly $100 price gap between the 5850 and 4890, whereas the gap 4890 to 4770 is approximately zilch.

If you look at game benchmarks and not just at hardware specs the 5850 does not outperform the 4890 by a tremendous margin. In fact, the margins are often smaller than the delta between 5770 to 4870, never mind 4890. This may change with better drivers, but at the moment $/performance is squarely with the 4890.

um the 5770 is only about 10% slower than a 4870. the 4890 is certainly not that close to the 5850 is it?

http://images.hardwarecanucks....770/ASUS-HD5770-16.jpg

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: Tempered81

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: v8envy
There is also a nearly $100 price gap between the 5850 and 4890, whereas the gap 4890 to 4770 is approximately zilch.

If you look at game benchmarks and not just at hardware specs the 5850 does not outperform the 4890 by a tremendous margin. In fact, the margins are often smaller than the delta between 5770 to 4870, never mind 4890. This may change with better drivers, but at the moment $/performance is squarely with the 4890.

um the 5770 is only about 10% slower than a 4870. the 4890 is certainly not that close to the 5850 is it?

http://images.hardwarecanucks....770/ASUS-HD5770-16.jpg

overall that doesnt change what I said. on average the 5770 is about 10% slower than a 4870 and even matches it in some games. the 4890 is at least 25% slower on average than the 5850 and never matches the 5850 average framerate.

 

[crisium]

Originally posted by: ebberz
Sorry this is UK money

Sapphire 4890 Vapor-X = £161
Sapphire 4870 = £121 (out of stock)
Sapphire 5770 = £111 (so that's 15 US dollars cheaper than the 4870)
Gainward GTX260 216 = £111

Hmm, GTX 260 is as fast at the 4870 (and has less power consumption), so it's not something to be shaken off when it's priced that low. It's usually a bit faster than the 5770 too. I'd say besides the generally superior performance of the GTX 260 it comes down to Physx vs DX11. Tough call, but opting for the GTX 260 will give you the best performance "right now". Tough call indeed.

 

[Vertibird]

Originally posted by: Tempered81

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: v8envy
There is also a nearly $100 price gap between the 5850 and 4890, whereas the gap 4890 to 4770 is approximately zilch.

If you look at game benchmarks and not just at hardware specs the 5850 does not outperform the 4890 by a tremendous margin. In fact, the margins are often smaller than the delta between 5770 to 4870, never mind 4890. This may change with better drivers, but at the moment $/performance is squarely with the 4890.

um the 5770 is only about 10% slower than a 4870. the 4890 is certainly not that close to the 5850 is it?

http://images.hardwarecanucks....770/ASUS-HD5770-16.jpg

HD4890 is definitely closer to HD5770 than it is to HD5850. (On top of that 5850 is way stronger OCer compared to 4890)

Whenever frame rates climb it takes exponentially more GPU to get the same linear increase that happened at lower frame rates.

 

[kalrith]

Go with the 5770 if its features are worth more than a slight performance drop to you. Go with the GTX 260 216 if the increased performance is more important to you than the features.

 

[Vertibird]

Originally posted by: ebberz
Just ordered a bunch of parts that were all allegedly in stock.

However it turns out the 1GB Sapphire 4870 I ordered is no longer in stock and they can't give me a firm date when it will be back.

I was thinking about switching to the 1GB 5770 which is actually slighlty cheaper.

That is until I read the latest article on the main website which states it underperforms the 4870....

Just wondering what I should do?
Will the introduction of better drivers etc make the 5770 better in the long run?

I don't want to hold off too long for this card as it's part of my new builds with most of the other parts already on their way to my door!

Thanks

What processor and monitor are you using? Do you plan on OCing the processor?

 

[ebberz]

I've bought an i7 860 and Gigabyte UD4

Probably not going to OC which was why I went for the 860 over the 920.

 

[abs0lut3]

Originally posted by: ebberz
Just ordered a bunch of parts that were all allegedly in stock.

However it turns out the 1GB Sapphire 4870 I ordered is no longer in stock and they can't give me a firm date when it will be back.

I was thinking about switching to the 1GB 5770 which is actually slighlty cheaper.

That is until I read the latest article on the main website which states it underperforms the 4870....

Just wondering what I should do?
Will the introduction of better drivers etc make the 5770 better in the long run?

I don't want to hold off too long for this card as it's part of my new builds with most of the other parts already on their way to my door!

Thanks

I would go with 4870 or anything AMD within that price point. 5770 kinda disappoints me thinking that it was going to be significant enough not to buy 5850 (my target). I was going to buy the 48xx series but then I buy major video cards every two years so why I would buy something cheaper only to get replaced the following year with the newer card with the difference is you spend half now and half later rather than buying a whole now and not suffer later (selling old video card at lesser price, cost shipping out etc).

 

[Vertibird]

Originally posted by: ebberz
I've bought an i7 860 and Gigabyte UD4

Probably not going to OC which was why I went for the 860 over the 920.

Maybe you should give stock voltage overclocking a try? (Especially since you bought such a nice motheboard) This way your hardware doesn't wear out any faster and you would have money left over to buy more energy efficient parts.

Not overclocking.....but then using power hungry 4870 (50 more watts than 5850 at idle). It is kind of ironic actually.

But anyway if you absolutely need 4870 performance then maybe buying 4870 is the best choice here. What resolution did you say you used?

 

[ebberz]

Resolution is 1920 x 1080

Starting to think I should go GTX 260 as it's on a similar par, then upgrade again early next year.