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RussianSensation

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try running madvr for example, the 4870 will deliver a lot better performance...

as for the whole power thing, you forget the rest of the HD4K series, yes the 4870 was problematic with it's fixed memory clock, but the 4550 and 4670 were pretty reasonable, still very usable for basic video... the 4550 even made the 5450 look bad at launch, because it was a little faster for games, regardless, I don't see any good excuses for AMD to not be doing what Nvidia is regarding DX10 cards support;

We are discussing the OP's card, not HD4550/4650. If you want to argue how you are upset there is little W10 support for HD4000 cards, you so far provided 0, and I mean 0 rebuttal why Kepler bombs compared to GCN. So in essence you are criticizing AMD for not supporting an ancient 6-7 year old GPU but not saying a word about how more modern NV architecture got destroyed in modern games in the last 12 months? That's the whole point here that you are not seeing how both companies made their decisions on which cards to support based on priorities. AMD prioritized much better in this regard because it provided better driver support for cards made since December 2011 than NV did.

Who cares? The point is the OP shouldn't be FORCED to upgrade. Great if it's in his best interest to upgrade, it's HIS decision to do so.

I guess you never took economics or finance in college/university? If a more modern videocard provides more features, long-term driver support and pays for itself with idle electricity alone over the useful life of the OP's Windows 10 installation, it's better to upgrade, period. Not upgrading is a worse decision long-term. This is a pure finance/capital budgeting decision.

Ok no offense but you aren't making sense at this point if you keep ignoring this point because his GPU will use 75W of power at idle every hour and my math already shows that even with 2 hours of basic use, any $50 modern card is a "free" upgrade in 5 years. Not to mention, a GTX750 will beat his HD4870 in gaming too, provide 5-6 years of driver support too. If the OP uses his card for more than 2 hours a day, the newer GTX750 will pay for itself even quicker. Considering the OP used his HD4870 for so long, it sounds like upgrading is the best decision.

Another point you ignored - GeForce 8, 9 or 200 or 300 or 405 are all obsolete driver-wise April 1, 2016 anyway since NV will drop official support for all of these series. You aren't considering things in the proper context by totally ignoring the idle power usage of OP's card. Not to mention you also ignored the entire history of HD4800 series vs. NV cards by focusing only on what's happening in 2015 with Windows 10. That's not how people bought GPUs in 2008-2009. Like I already said, the OP probably got a great deal on his HD4870 vs. anything NV had at the time so he should be more than satisfied that this card even lasted that long considering an NV alternative cost $100 more and was slower. All you are doing is using hindsight 20-20 to bash AMD here while not at all penalizing NV for much higher prices during GTX200 generation, worse perf/watt, worse features for HTPC and for anyone who has used HD4800 vs. GTX200 series in an objective matter inferior NV 2D IQ for that generation.

You also continue to be ignorant to the fact that during HD4870 era, Tesla couldn't pass multi-channel sound via HDMI to a receiver which means your bashing of HD4800 AMD drivers for W10 is absurd because had the OP gone NV back then he would have compromised on his HTPC usage, while paying more for a GTX260! Notice how in none of your posts in this thread you discuss the pros and cons of choosing AMD vs. NV during that generation? Cuz you are thinking in a vacuum aka hindsight 20-20.

What matters is the OP's situation, not your laptop or my laptop or my desktop or your desktop. Fact is if he continues using his HD4870, it costs him $ in power usage and he would be better off getting a budget card like the $50 GTX750 I linked regardless if GeForce 8/9/200 or anything has support until April 1, 2016. Why? Because of economic reasons, getting another 5+ years of guaranteed driver support and more modern features like a much updated video decoder, etc. - that's why it's really irrelevant if 8400GS or 9800GTX+ or GTX260 will have driver support until April 1, 2016 cuz it's not helping the OP.

You are making a mountain out of a mole hill how HD4800 series doesn't have proper drivers in Windows 10 but ignoring the very fact that it's better for the OP to upgrade regardless if he had NV or AMD because anything he bought on the desktop that was equivalent to HD4870 for gaming back then used a lot of power in idle anyway. In addition to that, a card like a GTX750 would allow the OP to stream multiple 4K videos if he wanted to while something like an HD4870 would choke doing that with a slow CPU.
 
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SPBHM

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you are defending inferior quality support, I just mentioned that cards without that problem are on the same boat, also as I said I have a 4670 and 8400GS it's very easy to see the difference in terms of support as I pointed out... and both are DX10 from 2007/2008 (and sold for quite a few years after that)

Kepler is fully supported, I don't see the relevance;
the game performance variation can be explained in many ways, which have nothing to do with AMD not bothering with CCC for their DX10 cards under Win10.
 

SparkyJJO

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Just stop it you two. Geez.

OP has old card. OP wants manufacturer to develop new drivers for nearly decade old card. Manufacturer does not. Whoop-de-freakin-do, the stuff is really pretty old now.

If you want the latest OS and stuff, at least have some hardware within the same time period as the OS. Doesn't even have to be anything special. And since Win10 is free, spend $50 on a card instead of $100 on Windows license and get a fully supported card.

Or, if you want to use the nearly decade-old hardware, do the registry hack thing and/or check TV settings to fix the overscan nonsense and move on with your life.

/thread.
 

escrow4

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Better yet chuck the HTPC and buy a Broadwell NUC (or wait for Skylake). Not counting MadVR it will sip power, be next to silent and will decode 4K. An i3 NUC will do the trick and have some grunt in reserve.
 

tential

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Just stop it you two. Geez.

OP has old card. OP wants manufacturer to develop new drivers for nearly decade old card. Manufacturer does not. Whoop-de-freakin-do, the stuff is really pretty old now.

If you want the latest OS and stuff, at least have some hardware within the same time period as the OS. Doesn't even have to be anything special. And since Win10 is free, spend $50 on a card instead of $100 on Windows license and get a fully supported card.

Or, if you want to use the nearly decade-old hardware, do the registry hack thing and/or check TV settings to fix the overscan nonsense and move on with your life.

/thread.

No thanks, my 9800M GTS laptop is running fine still. Yay.

Does TV and Music and Movies all that we need. Some light Dota if you want or other light game or even steam in home stream a heavy game. So ya, just because it's old doesn't mean I should just chuck it.
 

Spjut

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We are discussing the OP's card, not HD4550/4650. If you want to argue how you are upset there is little W10 support for HD4000 cards, you so far provided 0, and I mean 0 rebuttal why Kepler bombs compared to GCN. So in essence you are criticizing AMD for not supporting an ancient 6-7 year old GPU but not saying a word about how more modern NV architecture got destroyed in modern games in the last 12 months? That's the whole point here that you are not seeing how both companies made their decisions on which cards to support based on priorities. AMD prioritized much better in this regard because it provided better driver support for cards made since December 2011 than NV did.

This thread has been about no proper Windows 10 support for old but capable GPUs, I don't see why you needed to bring Kepler and Maxwell into this.

Nvidia is still supporting Fermi, Kepler and Maxwell. Kepler and Maxwell already have DX12 drivers, and Nvidia has promised that Fermi will have its DX12 drivers in time for the first DX12 games. Nvidia is the only one to provide DX12 support for five year old cards (the 400 and 500 series competed with AMD's HD 5000 and 6000 series)

It was indeed bad that TW3 performed so poorly on Kepler, but at least Nvidia did fix it.

Anyway, it is no news that both AMD and Nvidia prioritize driver optimizations for their latest architectures. Sometimes the changes between architectures aren't so major, so optimizations can be shared. Once AMD released GCN, it seemed to drop performance optimizations for its very different VLIW4/5 architectures.
 

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http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/87988/en-us

http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/87987/en-us

Windows 10 driver for GF8/9/100/200/300. Pay slightly more and get superior Nvidia driver support and long support life.

Those that bought HD4xxx because it was cheap then are regretting it immensely now. Just 4 years after release and AMD dropped all driver support for it.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5775/...4000-gpus-being-moved-to-legacy-status-in-may

http://zachsaw.blogspot.com/2014/09/state-of-legacy-drivers-2014-amd-vs.html
 
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Ansive

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Why hasn't anyone posted a solution?.. lol

http://superuser.com/questions/4583...scan-settings-without-catalyst-control-center

Go to the following key in the registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\video{####....}\0000
Create a new DWORD32 "DigitalHDTVDefaultUnderscan" = dword 0x0000

Note: there might be several {####....}, should be the one with most of the ATI settings.
Source:http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=62100

You might need to change resolutions or reboot for this to take effect.
 
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gradoman

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Why hasn't anyone posted a solution?.. lol

http://superuser.com/questions/4583...scan-settings-without-catalyst-control-center

Go to the following key in the registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\video{####....}\0000
Create a new DWORD32 "DigitalHDTVDefaultUnderscan" = dword 0x0000

Note: there might be several {####....}, should be the one with most of the ATI settings.
Source:http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=62100

You might need to change resolutions or reboot for this to take effect.

Thanks, I might need this in the future with some friends and family. Could have used this a few months ago myself, but I decided on just not using HDMI instead.
 

SPBHM

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Just stop it you two. Geez.

OP has old card. OP wants manufacturer to develop new drivers for nearly decade old card. Manufacturer does not. Whoop-de-freakin-do, the stuff is really pretty old now.

4870 is from 2008, 8800GTX from 2006 gets a new driver and control panel, so if you want your products to have some level of support after 9-6 (a little over 6 counting the 4890 as the newest CCC-less AMD card) years from launch you know where to look at,

AMD went ahead and released a new WDDM 1.3 driver for my 5850 (late 2009 card) on Win 10, shouldn't be a huge problem to extend at least the CCC to their DX10 cards like my 4670 (2008, the 4670 I have is actually from 2010, newer than my 5850) and offer the functionality we had on win7 at least.

If you want the latest OS and stuff, at least have some hardware within the same time period as the OS. Doesn't even have to be anything special. And since Win10 is free, spend $50 on a card instead of $100 on Windows license and get a fully supported card.

Or, if you want to use the nearly decade-old hardware, do the registry hack thing and/or check TV settings to fix the overscan nonsense and move on with your life.

/thread.

that's not how PC works, legacy support is a very strong component of why we use PC, why is MS still supporting 32bit? why does it work fine with a lot of hardware from 2004? why is MS pushing aggressively win 10 as an update for windows 7, with notification and win update install path? even if you have one of the DX10 AMD cards?

it would be nice if AMD could release CCC for the DX10 cards, we are not even talking about the older DX9 stuff (pre 2007 for AMD) which was already WDDM 1.0 compatible and should be easy to get CCC on 10 also if they wanted to.

in any case, the registry tweak solution might help :thumbsup:
I didn't mention it, because I don't know it, I use the control panel to change settings, but since it doesn't exist it might be the only alternative to a hardware upgrade (or running older Windows) when you need to change something from default on AMD DX10 cards under win10
 

RussianSensation

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you are defending inferior quality support, I just mentioned that cards without that problem are on the same boat, also as I said I have a 4670 and 8400GS it's very easy to see the difference in terms of support as I pointed out... and both are DX10 from 2007/2008 (and sold for quite a few years after that)

No, I am discussing the situation from both sides, where a particular AMD card generation suffers in 2015 but another from NV from 2012-2014 has suffered as well. Also, way to ignore all my other points on idle power usage and continued driver support which is going to be MIA April 1, 2016 anyway.

Kepler is fully supported, I don't see the relevance;the game performance variation can be explained in many ways, .

That's funny.

Just stop it you two. Geez.

OP has old card. OP wants manufacturer to develop new drivers for nearly decade old card. Manufacturer does not. Whoop-de-freakin-do, the stuff is really pretty old now.

If you want the latest OS and stuff, at least have some hardware within the same time period as the OS. Doesn't even have to be anything special. And since Win10 is free, spend $50 on a card instead of $100 on Windows license and get a fully supported card.

Or, if you want to use the nearly decade-old hardware, do the registry hack thing and/or check TV settings to fix the overscan nonsense and move on with your life.

/thread.

:thumbsup: Finally someone who can think outside the box.

No thanks, my 9800M GTS laptop is running fine still. Yay.

Does TV and Music and Movies all that we need. Some light Dota if you want or other light game or even steam in home stream a heavy game. So ya, just because it's old doesn't mean I should just chuck it.

Has nothing to do with OP's situation or desktop usage patterns. I am sorry you cannot grasp the economical concept of wasting $$ on idle electricity usage and having no driver support post April 1, 2016 for the OP regardless if he had GeForce 8/9/200/300 series. It's not about being forced to upgrade but proactively upgrading since it's the better decision. Since he has a desktop not a laptop like you, for his purposes, upgrading is the better decision unless he doesn't pay for electricity usage.

This thread has been about no proper Windows 10 support for old but capable GPUs, I don't see why you needed to bring Kepler and Maxwell into this.

To simply highlight that both NV and AMD have their respective driver issues depending on a generation. It has been known for a while that AMD would be moving VLIW to legacy support, not yesterday but years ago. That allowed HD4800 users to plan far in advance their upgrade path. Considering NV is cutting support April 1, 2016 for GeForce 405 and below, pretty much it's a good idea for everyone to move to a more modern card if they desire 5-6 years of additional support and some light gaming under Windows 10.

But to answer your question, some posters here have clearly a double standard when it comes to bashing AMD for not supporting 7 year old GPUs but are saying nothing of the sort about Kepler GPU gaming performance. Both companies have issues.

It was indeed bad that TW3 performed so poorly on Kepler, but at least Nvidia did fix it.

It's not just TW3. It's a lot of games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G0da1HTWMk

Anyway, it is no news that both AMD and Nvidia prioritize driver optimizations for their latest architectures. Sometimes the changes between architectures aren't so major, so optimizations can be shared. Once AMD released GCN, it seemed to drop performance optimizations for its very different VLIW4/5 architectures.

:thumbsup: Exactly. This was known a long time ago.

Windows 10 driver for GF8/9/100/200/300. Pay slightly more and get superior Nvidia driver support and long support life.

I am not sure how someone with your username isn't banned yet. Everything coming out from you is PR, like you are a part of NV Focus Group. Anyway, paying slightly more wasn't "slightly" more during GTX200 vs. HD4800 generation. Not only that, 4870 had superior HTPC capabilities. Not to mention HD4870 made bitcoins which I am sure the OP didn't take advantage of either since he didn't even realize how much $ his GPU was using in idle or that a fix for his resolution issues would come soon .

So like other posters in this thread you aren't at all giving credit to the fact that the OP would have $50-100 towards a new GPU like GTX750Ti today from not buying a GTX260 and he would have had sound passed on via HDMI to his receiver. I am pretty sure people who knew what they were doing that went with HD4800 series have no regrets about it.

Why hasn't anyone posted a solution?.. lol

http://superuser.com/questions/4583...scan-settings-without-catalyst-control-center

Go to the following key in the registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\video{####....}\0000
Create a new DWORD32 "DigitalHDTVDefaultUnderscan" = dword 0x0000

Note: there might be several {####....}, should be the one with most of the ATI settings.
Source:http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=62100

You might need to change resolutions or reboot for this to take effect.

Thank you! That's what we need more at AT, actually people helping the OP.

I mentioned it earlier how why is no one searching for the answer and when I attempted to provide some starting point, it was shut down. I am obviously not going to spend half a day looking for a solution for an HD4870 card since I am not the owner but it wasn't a surprise that a solution would have been created.
 
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tential

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http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/87988/en-us

http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/87987/en-us

Windows 10 driver for GF8/9/100/200/300. Pay slightly more and get superior Nvidia driver support and long support life.

Those that bought HD4xxx because it was cheap then are regretting it immensely now. Just 4 years after release and AMD dropped all driver support for it.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5775/...4000-gpus-being-moved-to-legacy-status-in-may

http://zachsaw.blogspot.com/2014/09/state-of-legacy-drivers-2014-amd-vs.html
It hurt to pay extra for that 9800M GTS. It was worth it over any alternative though.
 

SPBHM

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so you posted a video showing Maxwell 2 GM206 (late 2014) being a lot more efficient than Kepler (GK104 from early 2012), OK, funny?

as I said the power thing is not an excuse, and many of their DX10 cards have good idle power usage; sure it might be a good thing to retire the 4870 as an HTPC card due to power/noise, but not due to lack of CCC it shouldn't.

AMD just relaunched a GCN 1.0 card for around $150 (and I think more will follow with the 370X), and Hawaii/Fiji I think are closer to GCN 1.0 than Maxwell 2 to Kepler, this should go a long way to explain the differences in relative performance, but again, irrelevant for the older products support.
 

tential

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so you posted a video showing Maxwell 2 GM206 (late 2014) being a lot more efficient than Kepler (GK104 from early 2012), OK, funny?

as I said the power thing is not an excuse, and many of their DX10 cards have good idle power usage; sure it might be a good thing to retire the 4870 as an HTPC card due to power/noise, but not due to lack of CCC it shouldn't.

AMD just relaunched a GCN 1.0 card for around $150 (and I think more will follow with the 370X), and Hawaii/Fiji I think are closer to GCN 1.0 than Maxwell 2 to Kepler, this should go a long way to explain the differences in relative performance, but again, irrelevant for the older products support.
The point is that the topic is amd 4870 driver support in Windows 10.

Since this is bad for amd, we now have to change the subject and talk about why it's time to upgrade anyway, how nvidia products were worse at the time too! And how nvidia is ending product support for their products 1 year from now (which is still better than now).

You see how the topic slowly shifts? It's annoying when people shift the topic and don't stay on point.
 

Cerb

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http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/87988/en-us

http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/87987/en-us

Windows 10 driver for GF8/9/100/200/300. Pay slightly more and get superior Nvidia driver support and long support life.

Those that bought HD4xxx because it was cheap then are regretting it immensely now. Just 4 years after release and AMD dropped all driver support for it.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5775/...4000-gpus-being-moved-to-legacy-status-in-may

http://zachsaw.blogspot.com/2014/09/state-of-legacy-drivers-2014-amd-vs.html
If you have a 2008/9/early10 Geforce, 350.xx marks the end of support. Just like how AMD has supported some GPUs for a long while in the past, I'm sure that if nVidia didn't stretch out Tesla's life span in their product lines, they'd have already cut support from mainstream drivers (which will include the next Windows OS). It's really serendipitous, on nVidia's part, regarding Windows 10.

Why hasn't anyone posted a solution?.. lol
Assuming that's what it is, and it still works in 10, I did, awhile back. A whole Google search of it, in fact (after suggesting the OP use Google).
 

Spjut

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If you have a 2008/9/early10 Geforce, 350.xx marks the end of support. Just like how AMD has supported some GPUs for a long while in the past, I'm sure that if nVidia didn't stretch out Tesla's life span in their product lines, they'd have already cut support from mainstream drivers (which will include the next Windows OS). It's really serendipitous, on nVidia's part, regarding Windows 10.


I'm not too sure about that. Nvidia has shown before that it supports its older GPUs for a long time. The Geforce 6 and 7 series got official support for Windows 8.0, and the latest driver is from january 2015.


Back when AMD moved HD 4000 to legacy, some of the more tech-savvy users were surprised because the HD 4000 series' architecture was supposed to be very similar to that of the HD 5000 series.

I don't think anyone here is expecting further driver optimizations for the HD 2000-4000 series though, just a driver that's as functional as the one for Win7.

I hope more sites do a follow-up in games where Kepler has performed poorly compared to its GCN and Maxwell counterparts. It's indeed terrible if Nvidia does neglect Kepler like that.
 

railven

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The point is that the topic is amd 4870 driver support in Windows 10.

Since this is bad for amd, we now have to change the subject and talk about why it's time to upgrade anyway, how nvidia products were worse at the time too! And how nvidia is ending product support for their products 1 year from now (which is still better than now).

You see how the topic slowly shifts? It's annoying when people shift the topic and don't stay on point.

At this point just ignore Russian, he's grasping at straws to tie Kepler (and LPCM lulz) into a thread about HD 4870 and Win 10 support.

Card is old as dirty (HD 4870) but it still works, mi madre can attest to that. Unless the card just dies, I see no reason to replace a working card. Unless, you guys want a "free" upgrade in 5 years.

EDIT: Before the thread got derailed, post number 10:

You should still be able to change the registry entries, just like with other elderly Radeons and Windows 8. Google it, try it, and tell us if it works.

Thank you! That's what we need more at AT, actually people helping the OP.

I mentioned it earlier how why is no one searching for the answer and when I attempted to provide some starting point, it was shut down. I am obviously not going to spend half a day looking for a solution for an HD4870 card since I am not the owner but it wasn't a surprise that a solution would have been created.


Haha. But you came into this thread, why?
 
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tential

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The argument that because it's worth it for you to upgrade, AMD shouldn't even support your card is just ridiculous. Gameworks is getting trashed for this. This isn't the same degree obviously but the point is, if my product isn't super old, I expect support. I understand RS has pointed out support ends in 2016. That's fine. I still have a working Windows 10 driver! I'm HAPPY about that. HD4000 users need a working Windows 10 driver. I don't care if AMD NEVER releases an update or help or support. But a working driver with support for CCC so you can do things like change HDMI overscan/underscan is 100% a necessity.
 

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I ran into this issue with the update for build 10525 and finally got it fixed.
I got CCC to work with an AMD 4670 GPU, Win 10 64 Bit Build 10525.
CCC GPU settings are available, scaling options, screen resolutions, color calibration, ...

Here's what worked for me:

Uninstall the previous AMD Control Center (Remove everything) and restart the PC.

Install the windows 7/8 AMD Catalyst 13.4 Legacy Beta CCC/Driver
Set compatibility mode to windows 8 with administrative rights.
(Right click on setup and select compatibility mode Windows 8 and check Administrative rights)

Download for 64 Bit 13.4 CCC:
http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop/legacy?product=legacy2&os=Windows 8 - 64

Download for 32 Bit 13.4 CCC:
http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop/legacy?product=legacy2&os=Windows 8

This will install Catalyst Control Center, but the driver install will fail, and CCC is not fully functional.

Then go to Device manager and manually force install the legacy display driver that did not install.

Double click on Ati display device and select the driver tab
select update driver
select browse my computer for driver software
select 'Let me pick from list ...'
click on have disk
browse to your driver directory

For me the driver directories are at
[C]\AMD\AMD_Catalyst_13.4_Legacy_Beta_Vista_Win7_Win8\Packages\Drivers\Display
I had to use the W86A_INF folder

Hope this helps
 

SPBHM

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it didn't work for me with the 4670, but I'm running 10240 x86

I get the same thing from when I tried 13.9 and 13.1 I think

the display driver is installed and the version changed from 8.970.100.9001 WHQL (the win update driver) to 8.970.100.0 Beta 13.4, the CCC icon appears but I can't open it, it gives me an error message "cannot be started, there are currently no settings that can be configured using CCC"

I did as you said, install the driver package with administrative rights and win 8 compatibility, maybe it works for x64 and not the x86 version or something...
 
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I'm more amazed the 4800 series even has a functional Win10 driver at all!

Do gtx260 run great in Win10?

I love hanging on to hardware as long as possible and I still have a functional 5850 which runs Starcraft II & other DOTA-like games great.. but man, 4870 is stretching it.

AMD just doesn't have the resources to keep on keeping on THAT many generations ago.
 

SPBHM

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I'm more amazed the 4800 series even has a functional Win10 driver at all!

Do gtx260 run great in Win10?


anything with a Vista driver should work since it supports WDDM 1.0 drivers (13.4 legacy is WDDM 1.1)

GTX 260 got a new WDDM 1.2 driver release for win 10(341.74) on July 29 with a working control panel and all, just like all of the Nvidia DX10 cards.
 

DavidAtncus

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I don't have W10 x86 so i don't know if that works different than x64.

After uninstalling CCC using the the CCC installer i did uninstall AMD Catalyst Install Manager from Programs and Features.

I'm still an Insider, i didn't do a W10 free upgrade yet.
 

tential

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I'm more amazed the 4800 series even has a functional Win10 driver at all!

Do gtx260 run great in Win10?

I love hanging on to hardware as long as possible and I still have a functional 5850 which runs Starcraft II & other DOTA-like games great.. but man, 4870 is stretching it.

AMD just doesn't have the resources to keep on keeping on THAT many generations ago.
My 9800m gts had 0 issues upgrading to Windows 10 with everything working. So even older mobile works.
 

VirtualLarry

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Another point you ignored - GeForce 8, 9 or 200 or 300 or 405 are all obsolete driver-wise April 1, 2016 anyway since NV will drop official support for all of these series.

So NV is dropping support for Fermi in 2016? They still sell re-badged Fermi low-end cards, new at retail, for crying out loud!

I can see them dropping support for pre-Fermi, but I'm pissed at them if they're dropping Fermi support. (I have a GT430 LP card in a rig.)

Think of it this way - the low-end market is disappearing. More powerful IGPs are gobbling them up. So AMD and NV aren't releasing new silicon at the real low end.

Pretty soon, there WILL BE NO SUPPORTED LOW-END discrete for customers. So those of us with older IGPs, that wanted something better, like a low-end discrete (esp. low-profile), will be screwed. NV (and AMD) won't release new products for that market sector, and then they drop support for existing products in that market segment. Leaving their customers in limbo, forced to go back to their slower (but supported!) IGPs, losing AMD and NV market share.
 
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