4K televisions are useless for OTA

renz20003

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Good lord 720p looks like hot garbage on this thing, do the high end sets have upscalers?
 

Ichinisan

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Good lord 720p looks like hot garbage on this thing, do the high end sets have upscalers?
720p should look fine if you disable the slight zoom most TVs do by default (simulating the overscan of old CRTs).

720 lines x 3 = 2,160

That's the same number of pixel rows in a consumer "4K" TV, so each line of detail would be displayed 3 times and it should look better than it does on a 1080p panel with non-integer scaling. Even a so-called "720p" TV is really 768p and the image is displayed with non-integer scaling, so your 4K TV should be able to do it better than any of them.
 

renz20003

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720p should look fine if you disable the slight zoom most TVs do by default (simulating the overscan of old CRTs).

720 lines x 3 = 2,160

That's the same number of pixel rows in a consumer "4K" TV, so each line of detail would be displayed 3 times and it should look better than it does on a 1080p panel with non-integer scaling. Even a so-called "720p" TV is really 768p and the image is displayed with non-integer scaling, so your 4K TV should be able to do it better than any of them.

I have the zoom off, it still looks very grainy, 1080p is fine.

My old Sony Bravia has a true pixel mode that would letter box the screen for clarity if you wanted. The Samsung (nu6000?) budget set doesn’t appear to have an easy way to do this.

I’ve always felt displays look off when not using native resolution.
 

CZroe

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I have the zoom off, it still looks very grainy, 1080p is fine.

My old Sony Bravia has a true pixel mode that would letter box the screen for clarity if you wanted. The Samsung (nu6000?) budget set doesn’t appear to have an easy way to do this.

I’ve always felt displays look off when not using native resolution.
Yeah, but the aspect zoom isn't going to do it. My Sony XBR calls it 1:1. Most TVs obfuscate the setting if they don't give it some weird brand-specific name or hide it in a service menu. Sometimes it means using a particular input and customizing the label to "PC," sometimes they simply don't have the option. Sucks!

I've heard that many 4K TVs will resample 720p no matter what, even if it can do an integer scale like Ichinisan is talking about.
 
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