4th-Grade Girl: Teacher Threatened Me

[Fayd]

I bet you paid attention in class and turned out well. Am I right?




Yes there is. Mr. Martin or whatever their name is the correct way to address a teacher. I was very close to many of my teachers and would never have dreamed of calling any of them "teach".




Wow, I actually agree with the troll. Except for the fact that not everyone knows this.

I've called teachers "teach". any teacher i called this generally liked me as a student. i was intelligent, attentive, and rarely disruptive.

if you're so insecure about your position in life that you feel the need to force your students to address you in a specific way, then you really shouldn't be a teacher.

i've also had teachers similar to the jackoff referenced in the article. i had one tell me to my face, in front of the class, "If this were the wild west, you'd have been shot dead a long time ago!"

teachers don't deserve respect because they're teachers. respect is earned through individual interaction, not station.

 

[JMapleton]

teachers don't deserve respect because they're teachers. respect is earned through individual interaction, not station.

You sir deserve cookie. (not sarcasm)

 

[darkswordsman17]

Why the fuck is this even news? Holy shit. The teacher needs to chill out. If he felt so disrespected he should have just said, don't call me that again, no need to say what he did. He clearly realizes that, although the flashback stuff is a bit sketchy. The student needs to talk with the teacher in person (with her parents present). Have him apologize, and then move past this.

The thing the girl needs to understand is that, just because it was the first time she was there and did anything like that, doesn't mean he doesn't get shit like that from other students and wants to put a stop to it. He might have been called that by some little dickheads all day in a disrespectful manner, and so by the time she did it, he was in no mood to put up with it.

The parents need to show their daughter some decent conflict resolution skills instead of just holding her out.

 

[yhelothar]

LOL the usual AT elitist snobbery is strong in this thread.

"He who establishes his argument by noise and command shows that his reason is weak." -Moliere

Eloquently said.

 

[RelaxTheMind]

teachers don't deserve respect because they're teachers. respect is earned through individual interaction, not station.

earning respect goes both ways. a child doesnt understand what respect is, which is why its up to the parents/teachers/other influential parties to incorporate it into a childs upbringing. "teach" can be taken many ways... sarcastic, disrespectful , funny...

its too idealistic to say the blanket statement "respect must be earned".

Uh they are. More kids are going to college, less kids are using drugs compared to their parents generation (the baby boomers) and kids these days have better developed personalities.

Although it's more extreme these days, kids are either really smart and mature or super super dumb and violent. In the past kids came out of a plastic mold.

-could possibly be why there is an even higher college drop out rate.
-there is actually an increase of drug use including the variety of abused drugs. not just marijuana anymore.
-kids nowadays would actually be the grand kids of the baby boomers. kids are plastic molds of their parents dunno where you're going with that.

More kids are going to kids because kids these days have their future more well thought out. They want to do things with their life. Go places, see things. Look at how many college kids these days when their young travel to foreign places, seeing the world, even paying on their own dime. You didn't see that 30 years ago.

accessibility? a plane ticket back then cost 5x more than it does today and no internet to search travel agencys. teenage unemployment rate is almost double what it was 30 years ago so where is this dime coming from?

 

[Sea Moose]

Once again foolish liberal parents are allowing their children to get away with disrespect, instead of properly disciplining them. This kind of parenting is contributing to the downfall of the western world. Everyone knows this.

Its the same problem here too

 

[moshquerade]

I would never, ever, under any circumstances want to be a teacher nowadays.

This.

Although your signature is so outrageous and belongs in the gulag of P&N, I will still agree with your post.

Back in our parent's day, or maybe our grandparent's day, if you messed up in school and they got a call or note home about it your ass was grass. There was no questioning it (unless it was blatant abuse by the teacher). Parents would side with the school then just about all the time, and now, in this day and age, it's just the opposite.

I think the article in the OP is ridiculous. The 4th grader and her overly protective mother should both feel embarrassed for making this an issue. The girl was being smug, and she knew it. The teacher had had enough, and basically was telling her to shut up, and she should've just shut up and left it at that.

 

[JJChicken]

My 2c, the teacher was wrong in talking in a threatening manner, but the whole incident is WAY overblown, particularly by the mother who should have more common sense.




Also, run-on sentences for the win!

 

[edro]

My grandpa has told me stories of his teacher throwing apples at kids who didn't pay attention in class.
He said that the one tough bad kid got hit in between the eyes and it knocked him out.

LOL

 

[slag]

When I was in 6th grade my math teacher took me out of the class room and shoved me into the wall. Told me to stop fucking around in class and take it serious because I was to bright to be fucking around. I told her "I could get you fired for this" she said "I don't care." So I just let it be.

Your teacher was wrong.

 

[Ninjahedge]

1. The kid was not talking to the teacher in a friendly way. Guarantee you that the delivery was everything.

2. "Teach" is disrespectful, considering that even HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS are discouraged from using that kind of condescending "familiarity" with their instructors having a 9 year old not calling you "Mr. So-in-so" is just wrong.

3. The teacher overreacted. They have a right to be annoyed, but foregoing any othe circumstances (such as the kid doing this after being told repeatedly not to, or having other diciplinary problems from her or others in the class) he should have not used such strong suggestive language and NEVER threatened violence.

4. "Liberal"? HTF is this kid a "liberal"? Talk about throwing name tags around. Seems the GOP has made it OK to call anyone you do not agree with "liberal". This family smells of freeloading blame gamers (which is actually both a conservative AND progressive combo between belief in responsibility, blame, and socialism. Things that not only "liberals" have been practicing, but conservatives and the newly formed conglomerate of ill-fitting reactionaries called "Tea Partiers"). This is far from a political stance situation.

The student gets "A"s? What was she learning? What classes does she get them in? Gym? Why was she being tutored if she was getting A's?

Teachers these days have one of the highest educated, lowest paid and lowest respected positions around these days. They work their asses off trying to get their job done, have dozens of people pointing their fingers at them for their own childs idiocy, and now have their hands tied when they have a child that does not respect them.

"Oh but they get summer off". BS. They have to, in many districts, go BACK to school themselves to take summer classes to continue their education. They are also, from the very start, "salaried" individuals that are never really given the time they need druing the school day to finish up all the grading, lesson plans, make the homework assignments and tests that are needed, set up and clean up after things like Labs, and other things.

Well, at least the GOOD teachers do not have enough time and are not given enough respect. The bad ones have it made.


This girl sounds like a disrespectful slacker that got the teach on a bad day. Nobody is 100% right on this, and this story matters just about as much as the booker sitting in my left nostril.

I just hope I am not so picky about it.

 

[Ninjahedge]

LOL the usual AT elitist snobbery is strong in this thread.

"He who establishes his argument by noise and command shows that his reason is weak." -Moliere

Eloquently said.

Those that say things so softly that they cannot be heard over the braying of the crowd will be forced to live with their own brilliance, right or wrong.

 

[edro]

When I was in 6th grade my math teacher took me out of the class room and shoved me into the wall. Told me to stop fucking around in class and take it serious because I was to bright to be fucking around. I told her "I could get you fired for this" she said "I don't care." So I just let it be.

Your teacher was wrong.

LOL :thumbsup:

 

[brandonb]

1. The kid was not talking to the teacher in a friendly way. Guarantee you that the delivery was everything.

2. "Teach" is disrespectful, considering that even HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS are discouraged from using that kind of condescending "familiarity" with their instructors having a 9 year old not calling you "Mr. So-in-so" is just wrong.

3. The teacher overreacted. They have a right to be annoyed, but foregoing any othe circumstances (such as the kid doing this after being told repeatedly not to, or having other diciplinary problems from her or others in the class) he should have not used such strong suggestive language and NEVER threatened violence.

The student gets "A"s? What was she learning? What classes does she get them in? Gym? Why was she being tutored if she was getting A's?

Teachers these days have one of the highest educated, lowest paid and lowest respected positions around these days. They work their asses off trying to get their job done, have dozens of people pointing their fingers at them for their own childs idiocy, and now have their hands tied when they have a child that does not respect them.

"Oh but they get summer off". BS. They have to, in many districts, go BACK to school themselves to take summer classes to continue their education. They are also, from the very start, "salaried" individuals that are never really given the time they need druing the school day to finish up all the grading, lesson plans, make the homework assignments and tests that are needed, set up and clean up after things like Labs, and other things.

Well, at least the GOOD teachers do not have enough time and are not given enough respect. The bad ones have it made.

This girl sounds like a disrespectful slacker that got the teach on a bad day. Nobody is 100% right on this, and this story matters just about as much as the booker sitting in my left nostril.

I just hope I am not so picky about it.

I agree with your assessment (except 4 which I didn't quote, as I didn't see any relevance to the story.)

Kid did something a bit stupid (normal for a kid of her age).
Teach was in a bad mood and did something a bit stupid (normal for anybody at times).

Let's just say sorry and move on.

I remember spinning a ruler on my pencil in 3rd Grade... The teacher got all pissed, came up, grabbed the ruler, smashed it on the edge of my desk so shards of my ruler (they were wooden back in my days) flew in every direction for 10 feet (luckily didn't go into my eye) and told me to never again spin my ruler on my pencil. Scared the willies out of me that day, but the next day she apologized for having such a harsh reaction and actually bought me a new ruler and gave it to me as a present. I learned a valuable lesson. Sometimes people can suprise you, good and bad. I was suprised twice in 2 days...

 

[Juddog]

Teachers should be allowed to slap their students. That is all.

 

[qliveur]

Mother and child are overreacting to the teacher's overreacting.

 

[alkemyst]

Teacher should have backhanded her.

Naw dawg...cane her with that chalk on a stick thing.

As done repeat "IT'S MR. ALKEMYST TO J00!"

 

[purbeast0]

The teacher. Seriously, fucking kids these days. Grow a damn backbone.

yea i agree.

and wtf ... why did they get the police involved?

 

[Platypus]

He should have given her a Zangief style pile driver. Everybody knows this.

 

[Perknose]

1. The kid was not talking to the teacher in a friendly way. Guarantee you that the delivery was everything.

2. "Teach" is disrespectful, considering that even HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS are discouraged from using that kind of condescending "familiarity" with their instructors having a 9 year old not calling you "Mr. So-in-so" is just wrong.

3. The teacher overreacted. They have a right to be annoyed, but foregoing any othe circumstances (such as the kid doing this after being told repeatedly not to, or having other diciplinary problems from her or others in the class) he should have not used such strong suggestive language and NEVER threatened violence.

4. "Liberal"? HTF is this kid a "liberal"? Talk about throwing name tags around. Seems the GOP has made it OK to call anyone you do not agree with "liberal". This family smells of freeloading blame gamers (which is actually both a conservative AND progressive combo between belief in responsibility, blame, and socialism. Things that not only "liberals" have been practicing, but conservatives and the newly formed conglomerate of ill-fitting reactionaries called "Tea Partiers"). This is far from a political stance situation.

The student gets "A"s? What was she learning? What classes does she get them in? Gym? Why was she being tutored if she was getting A's?

Teachers these days have one of the highest educated, lowest paid and lowest respected positions around these days. They work their asses off trying to get their job done, have dozens of people pointing their fingers at them for their own childs idiocy, and now have their hands tied when they have a child that does not respect them.

"Oh but they get summer off". BS. They have to, in many districts, go BACK to school themselves to take summer classes to continue their education. They are also, from the very start, "salaried" individuals that are never really given the time they need druing the school day to finish up all the grading, lesson plans, make the homework assignments and tests that are needed, set up and clean up after things like Labs, and other things.

Well, at least the GOOD teachers do not have enough time and are not given enough respect. The bad ones have it made.


This girl sounds like a disrespectful slacker that got the teach on a bad day. Nobody is 100% right on this, and this story matters just about as much as the booker sitting in my left nostril.

I just hope I am not so picky about it.

Wow. Excellent post (and username!)

 

[JS80]

Most public school teachers are the most worthless scum of society.

 

[oddyager]

Awesome. Kid and her parents overreacting to the teacher's overreaction.

 

[AstroManLuca]

Awesome. Kid and her parents overreacting to the teacher's overreaction.

/thread

 

[L1FE]

While JMapleton has some good insight about interpersonal relationships and how that affects teaching, he/she sure doesn't practice what he's preaching. Maybe others would agree more with your point of view if you weren't such a prick.

 

[scott916]

Sure the comment by the teacher was inappropriate, but this is really national news? Wow.