510 horse kits out for the GTO!!!!

[BadNewsBears]

Well, I think I am going to buy an 05' with the LS2 the new Gm block with three valves. Some good improvements, and HOOD SCOOPS!

http://www.moderndaymusclecars.com/gto.html

 

[Zim Hosein]

I wonder how much the upgrades will cost?

 

[Yzzim]

Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
I wonder how much the upgrades will cost?

Thinking about doing it to your GTO?

 

[Zim Hosein]

Originally posted by: Yzzim

Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
I wonder how much the upgrades will cost?

Thinking about doing it to your GTO?

I wish, here's my personal form of transportation that I share

 

[Cfour]

I wish I had a GTO. After college...

 

[Squisher]

You're going to have to put a lot of six packs in the trunk just to keep the the rear end planted.

That's unreal.

 

[KokomoGST]

Bah... boost that SOB. Big blower or a couple of nice turbos that tuck on each side of the GTO.
That 510hp kit looks like just a fancy head added onto your standard Intake/Exhaust/Headers package... oh and Oooo, I forgot the computer tuning. :roll:

It should be like buying mods for any Chevy motor... there will soon be stuff from everything and everyone.

 

[Mutilator]

Don't roll your eyes too much @ computer tuning because on some vehicles it can make a significant difference.
But it doesn't seem like the 510HP package would cost more than a couple grand... you'll probably pay a bit of a premium for it right now though since the GTOs are so new.

 

[PowerMacG5]

Originally posted by: KokomoGST
Bah... boost that SOB. Big blower or a couple of nice turbos that tuck on each side of the GTO.
That 510hp kit looks like just a fancy head added onto your standard Intake/Exhaust/Headers package... oh and Oooo, I forgot the computer tuning. :roll:

It should be like buying mods for any Chevy motor... there will soon be stuff from everything and everyone.

See, you're lick Joe sixpack car owner. Adding power doesn't always mean "Oh lets boost this, or add NAWZZZZ." There is a lot of power to be had from that LS1 motor, that does not require the use of a super/turbocharger. You can, fairly easily, turn a LS1 in to a LS6, and then some. Those Chevy small blocks have a shitload of potential in them.

 

[Apex]

I wonder if it'll be cheaper than the Lingenfelter 510hp package.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: Squisher
You're going to have to put a lot of six packs in the trunk just to keep the the rear end planted.

That's unreal.

Not the GTO. It's a porker at over 4,000 pounds.

 

[Squisher]

I feel like such a kill joy asking this, but what does this do for emissions output?

When my '02 Z28 starts feeling a little tired I'm either going to dump a ton of money into it or move up to a Z06, but it sounds like we're getting tailpipe testing again here in Detroit.

 

[KokomoGST]

Originally posted by: Marauder911

Originally posted by: KokomoGST
Bah... boost that SOB. Big blower or a couple of nice turbos that tuck on each side of the GTO.
That 510hp kit looks like just a fancy head added onto your standard Intake/Exhaust/Headers package... oh and Oooo, I forgot the computer tuning. :roll:

It should be like buying mods for any Chevy motor... there will soon be stuff from everything and everyone.

See, you're lick Joe sixpack car owner. Adding power doesn't always mean "Oh lets boost this, or add NAWZZZZ." There is a lot of power to be had from that LS1 motor, that does not require the use of a super/turbocharger. You can, fairly easily, turn a LS1 in to a LS6, and then some. Those Chevy small blocks have a shitload of potential in them.

But if you're spending thousands upon thousands for just head work and possibly more for labor? That's BS... yeah, you can do better with a simple boltons and I don't think there's anything wrong with a simple blower kit or even a simple nitrous setup. And if you REALLY want big power, you really are going to have a tough time matching a forced induction setup though I'm well aware that the LS1 is insanely easy to get power out of.

I know that computer tuning can make a big difference in some cases... but I don't think you should charge a friggin arm and leg for flashing a programmable ECU. They make it seem like it's some big snot... when you can probably add a piggyback computer and get similar or even better results.

For me, I HATE overpriced "tuning"... but be my guest and spend $24k+ on your Lingenfelter setup when you're being annhilated by some shmuck that decided to custom-build a blower setup from the ground up for less money.

 

[KeithP]

Not the GTO. It's a porker at over 4,000 pounds.

Not quite, at least from the specs I have seen. It weighs just over 3,700 lbs.

-Keith

 

[ultimatebob]

Originally posted by: Zim Hosein

Originally posted by: Yzzim

Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
I wonder how much the upgrades will cost?

Thinking about doing it to your GTO?

I wish, here's my personal form of transportation that I share

I bet the motor from of those Subway cars could OWN any GTO if it was put in the right chassis! The hard part would be getting a hold of one, but you're a pretty resourceful guy, right?

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: Munchies
Well, I think I am going to buy an 05' with the LS2 the new Gm block with three valves. Some good improvements, and HOOD SCOOPS!

http://www.moderndaymusclecars.com/gto.html

You sure the LS2 has 3 valves? I think it still only has 2, and there will be a 3 valve option later. The LS2 makes 400HP stock.

Will have to look it up again, been a while.


EDIT

Yes the LS2 only has 2 valves.

"Cylinder heads for the LS2 are derived from designs used in previous Corvette Z06 models, including raised intake ports and an unshrouded-valve combustion chamber design that, when combined with the engine?s flat-top pistons, produces a more efficient swirl of the air/fuel mixture. This efficiency enables a higher 10.9:1 compression ratio, which increases fuel economy and horsepower.
Valves measure 2 inches for the intake and 1.55 inches for the exhaust. The valve springs also have been upgraded to withstand the engine?s increased power and rpm range."

http://www.corvettemuseum.com/specs/2005/powertrain.shtml

 

[stnicralisk]

Ok seriously here is Lingenfelter:
Package includes:
? Engine removal, inspection and disassembly
? Block machining and machining for sleeves
? Custom aluminum block preparation
? Darton modular sleeve assemblies
? ARP 8740 premium grade head studs
? Lingenfelter CNC ported & polished LS6 cylinder heads
? Stainless steel 2.100" hollow stem intake valves
? Stainless steel 1.57" hollow stem sodium filled exhaust valves
? Comp Cams double valve springs and titanium retainers
? 3 angle valve job, checking of spring tensions and heights
? Custom designed Lingenfelter hydraulic roller camshaft
? 1.85:1 roller rocker arms and HD pushrods
? Cloyes heavy duty timing chain set
? Lingenfelter HD rocker arm stands
? Custom forged aluminum pistons - 11.0:1 compression
? Custom forged steel crankshaft - 4.00" stroke
? Billet steel connecting rods - 6.125" long
? Computer balanced rotating assembly
? Reassembly and blueprinting of the engine
? Engine dyno test including 1 hour break-in procedure*
? Stainless steel exhaust by Corsa Performance
? Lingenfelter low restriction air inlet system
? Lingenfelter engine oil cooler package
? Fast composite intake manifold, 90 MM throttle body & fuel injectors
? ASP underdrive pulley & Goodyear belt
? Professional installation, testing and tuning
? Chassis dyno testing after installation
? LPE?s 2 year / 24,000 mile warranty
427 CID engine package $24,995.00
HD automatic transmission rebuild $2,595.00
Yank 2,800 stall torque converter $600.00
Heavy duty clutch upgrade TBA


Granted they padded it a little but they upgraded internals.
IF this package makes 510..

CNC ported cylinder heads.
Custom cam and push rods.
1 3/4 ceramic coated long tube headers.
2.5 inch high flow exhaust
Custom computer tuning
Custom 4 inch air intake system.

do you really think this one does too? Cam, headers, exhaust, intake, and computer for 510bhp? 400 tops imo.

 

[stnicralisk]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Munchies
Well, I think I am going to buy an 05' with the LS2 the new Gm block with three valves. Some good improvements, and HOOD SCOOPS!

http://www.moderndaymusclecars.com/gto.html

The LS2 makes 400HP stock.[/L]

In one configuration it makes 400 stock - granted it was underratted a bit in a some of the vehicles it has been in but when you are only changing the things that the vette did better how do you expect to top the vette so much?

I dont think the first package is capable of 510 hp. I think its similiar to exhaust companies claiming a 15 hp gain for your civic if you use their muffler. Dynos always show otherwise. I wonder if we can find someone who has had this already done to their vehicle and see what it puts down real world.

 

[Howard]

Let me guess - you designed these, right?

 

[Squisher]

Originally posted by: stnicralisk

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Munchies
Well, I think I am going to buy an 05' with the LS2 the new Gm block with three valves. Some good improvements, and HOOD SCOOPS!

http://www.moderndaymusclecars.com/gto.html

The LS2 makes 400HP stock.[/L]

In one configuration it makes 400 stock - granted it was underratted a bit in a some of the vehicles it has been in but when you are only changing the things that the vette did better how do you expect to top the vette so much?

I dont think the first package is capable of 510 hp. I think its similiar to exhaust companies claiming a 15 hp gain for your civic if you use their muffler. Dynos always show otherwise. I wonder if we can find someone who has had this already done to their vehicle and see what it puts down real world.

huh?

The LS1 makes 410 hp in Z06.

LS2 is bigger, 6.0 liters ( I wish they would have made it 396ci.), what is the base setup horsepower-wise? Can't be much less output than the top of the line LS1.

I do not think hp claims are out of line.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Too bad they don't have a "Makes It Look As Badass As A Real GTO" package.

- M4H

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Mutilator
Don't roll your eyes too much @ computer tuning because on some vehicles it can make a significant difference.
But it doesn't seem like the 510HP package would cost more than a couple grand... you'll probably pay a bit of a premium for it right now though since the GTOs are so new.

A bit? I'd be willing to bet that the 510hp package would cost you at least $7-8k. So you take a relatively obscure, overweight, nondescript $35k muscle car and add $8k to the cost and you're easily over $43k. Hmm, no thanks.

 

[BadNewsBears]

Originally posted by: Squisher
You're going to have to put a lot of six packs in the trunk just to keep the the rear end planted.

That's unreal.

Theres a limited slip kit out but the people who run the kit dont need it. Defenetally wont need it for the 05's. They have totally eliminated wheel hop.

 

[Actaeon]

huh?

The LS1 makes 410 hp in Z06.

LS2 is bigger, 6.0 liters ( I wish they would have made it 396ci.), what is the base setup horsepower-wise? Can't be much less output than the top of the line LS1.

I do not think hp claims are out of line.

Its an LS6 that makes 405HP in the Z06. The LS1 in the C5 pushes about 350hp, In the Camaro SS', 325hp.

The LS2 in the new 2005 GTO/C6 makes 400hp.

 

[BadNewsBears]

Originally posted by: stnicralisk

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Munchies
Well, I think I am going to buy an 05' with the LS2 the new Gm block with three valves. Some good improvements, and HOOD SCOOPS!

http://www.moderndaymusclecars.com/gto.html

The LS2 makes 400HP stock.[/L]

In one configuration it makes 400 stock - granted it was underratted a bit in a some of the vehicles it has been in but when you are only changing the things that the vette did better how do you expect to top the vette so much?

I dont think the first package is capable of 510 hp. I think its similiar to exhaust companies claiming a 15 hp gain for your civic if you use their muffler. Dynos always show otherwise. I wonder if we can find someone who has had this already done to their vehicle and see what it puts down real world.

The LS2 is brand new.
It is its been dynoed. I have one dyno graph and one mpeg of a customer's car on a dyno. Watch the vids on there site. That looks and feels like 510 hp to me.