Your logic here is flawed. If you recived even single card from nv for free, someone had to pay for it. It was not you, but your fellow nv enthusiasts.
Yeah, and that includes me when I buy Nvidia cards. I buy far more of them than I receive from NV dude. So, can I post here now? LMAO.
Which is of zero benefit to the GPU customer. But Nvidia customers have paid for it.
I have no problem with people who like Nvidias products or AMD's. Heck i go back and forth myself all the time. But there definitely is something fishy when people start cheering about higher prices and more profits. The only people who like those things are people with a vested interest. Even basic shareholders aren't invested enough to want higher prices and more profits. Since shares are rarely influenced by profits made last quarter. Share prices are normally forward looking.
So basically HANDS UP... Who's on the Nvidia Payroll?
Your logic here is flawed. If you recived even single card from nv for free, someone had to pay for it. It was not you, but your fellow nv enthusiasts.
Your logic here is flawed. If you recived even single card from nv for free, someone had to pay for it. It was not you, but your fellow nv enthusiasts.
When you can't use the strength of your counter argument on it's own merit, shill accusations rank right up there with racism and insults. It's a complete acknowledgement that your counter-argument is weak or non-existent - It's what you resort to when you want to sound like a prick and don't have anything intelligent to say. IMO, let your argument be strong based on the argument alone and don't devolve this into an "america sucks" discussion or shill accusations. So far i've seen border-line racism, broad insulting statements about both capitalism and Americans, and shill accusations from you - now, what kind of impression do you think this gives everyone here? Just give a rest man, argue with an intelligent counter-argument instead of this nonsense.
Simple logic and the Nvidia slides that have been floating around for a few years.
Fab gets more costly the lower you go, R&D gets more costly the higher you go.
So basically HANDS UP... Who's on the Nvidia Payroll?
Simple logic and the Nvidia slides that have been floating around for a few years.
Fab gets more costly the lower you go, R&D gets more costly the higher you go.
Just to put this into perspective. That margin is higher than Apple which not so long ago was working on a 14% net margin. Apple now has over 20% net margin. Margins seem to just go up lately at our expense
Typical marketing slide, the bottom is 100% and the top 101% of the cost.
I agree the costs of R&D, and fabs themselves go up, but considering that you can get smaller chip etc. I take a marketing slide with an ocean of salt.
They cant afford me.
That wasn't a "marketing" slide, it was supposed to be a presentation to TSMC, basically. NV also wasn't thrilled that someone leaked it.
Look at the cost curve crossover slide (it's a different slide):
http://www.extremetech.com/computin...y-with-tsmc-claims-22nm-essentially-worthless
It's out of date and maybe 20nm is going better than expected, but Apple is also rumored to be taking a HUGE chunk of TSMC 20nm and Qualcomm and other non-GPU makers want their share, too, so I doubt 20nm wafers come cheap.
They cant afford me.
I'm hugely skeptical of the implication that NV didn't want this leaked. It's a useless slide to present to TSMC - they know these data points better than anyone. If these slides where meant for TSMC, then NV was treating them like children
And, to repeat what I've read elsewhere, Apple has bought out the entire first quarter of 20nm wafers starts :-o This won't hurt NV much because AMD is in the same boat (at least in GPUs). It's a real stab at QCOM though! Way to throw some money around and beat your competitor to the punch.
Name a better one...
Name a better one...