54.4% Margins - Nvidia

[Fx1]

I don't think the HD 7970 owns the GTX 680 and the GTX 680 offered a cheaper MSRP than the original HD 7970 MSRP of 549! Even the HD 7970GE doesn't own the GTX 680 and actually surprising the efficiency of the GK-104 over time against strong competition from the talents of AMD.

I hope you objected strongly with AMD's launch, where they raised their MSRP's by 50 percent.

I know I was personally attacked for offering this below and simply had enough and offered, " Go Premiums!"

Even though 28nm and the arches are substantial and significant, the price/performance was more-so evolutionary and incremental -- consistently offered for both parties.

Ultimately, the market decides, vote with one's wallet, offer a vocal view and share, have no problem with this as long as things don't get personal.

Yes i waited over a year to buy my 7970 because i wouldnt pay AMD's inflated prices. Neither would i pay Nvidia £400 for 2GB of Vram. Then i wouldnt pay £850 for the 690 GTX...

Just like i wont pay £850 for a 7990 when i can buy 2x 7970 for £520.

I dont think any of Nvidias products are worth the money and the 7990 isnt either.

 

[willomz]

What?

Isn't that a failure when you pay $1000 for a GPU and it gives you consoles framerates?

Still 28% faster than the 7970 and that's just one game.
And you obviously don't play it at those frame rates, you dial down the AA a bit.

 

[Keysplayr]

Being on the Nvidia payroll surely gives you a balanced point of view does it?

Again, what is your goal? Answer please.

 

[Fx1]

Could you give me a tip on where to pick up a cheap Titan then?

Prices were £940 and now £810. Last week they are as low as £780 if you can call that low.

 

[tviceman]

How is it a troll thread. Nvidia just released their results with record margins.

Does this offend you or something?

It's your post, the point of your thread, and your demeanor. It's trolling, baiting, and inflaming. Do you not comprehend this? You've proven yourself to be misinformed and otherwise ignorant time and again with your posts since you popped up on here. Maybe it's time you take a back seat and put some literal thought into what you say.

 

[Fx1]

Again, what is your goal? Answer please. Honestly if it's in your ability.

There is no goal.

If Nvidia had an exceptional product this year then i would say they deserved the profit.

Truth is that Nvidia doesnt have any products worth their money. They are all over priced vs their performance.

The only way they could have achieved this is from overly loyal consumers who buy nvidia no matter what.

 

[Grooveriding]

If it's not a troll thread, I be surprised. Because your OP masterfully baited all the usual suspects one would expect to be giddy over nvidia making money and irate with you not feeling the same.

 

[Fx1]

It's your post, the point of your thread, and your demeanor. It's trolling, baiting, and inflaming. Do you not comprehend this? You've proven yourself to be misinformed and otherwise ignorant time and again with your posts since you popped up on here. Maybe it's time you take a back seat and put some literal thought into what you say.

All you do is call people trolls so maybe you should offer an informed opinion of your own instead of throwing sticks and stones.

 

[Fx1]

If it's not a troll thread, I be surprised. Because your OP masterfully baited all the usual suspects one would expect to be giddy over nvidia making money and irate with you not feeling the same.

Yes the same people always come to defend Nvidia. Must be the Nvidia viral marketing team.

 

[Erenhardt]

Still 28% faster than the 7970 and that's just one game.
And you obviously don't play it at those frame rates, you dial down the AA a bit.

But 50% slower than 7990.
I pay premium for Titan, and still can't max games?

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I think you don't understand this market: People want faster GPUs and not cheaper GPUs with free games which they cant even play with all effects because the GPUs are not fast enough.

Aha...I see. People want more expensive GPUs without free games, that cant even play games with all effects because the GPUs are not fast enough.

 

[blackened23]

If it's not a troll thread, I be surprised. Because your OP masterfully baited all the usual suspects one would expect to be giddy over nvidia making money and irate with you not feeling the same.

Obviously he thinks nvidia should provide free GPUs. For the good of mankind.

 

[sontin]

You right. We all defend nVidia because they gave us cheaper but yet faster 28nm cards than your company AMD.

Hm, you see, it goes both way.

Aha...I see. People want more expensive GPUs without free games, that cant even play games with all effects because the GPUs are not fast enough.

I play Tomb Raider with all effects (okay, without SSSA) in 1080p with 74FPS thanks to Titan. So now explain why should i buy a cheaper card when i must disable much more features - for example TressFX - to get the same FPS?

 

[willomz]

Prices were £940 and now £810. Last week they are as low as £780 if you can call that low.

Erm they were only £830 at launch. And yes there is one for sale at £810 now, but that's not exactly much difference, not even 3%.

 

[tviceman]

Man some of you people are so dumb.

Like yourself?

Lets all cheer Nvidia for selling the 690 GTX for $1000 with effective 2GB of VRAM which means less than a year later its bottlenecked and cant perform as well it should. The 680 GTX which cant compete with a 7970 but costs more!

Latest games that have come out:

Hitman Absolution

More Crysis 3: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/crysis_3_graphics_performance_review_benchmark,7.html
More Bioshock: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/bioshock_infinite_graphics_performance_review_benchmark,6.html
More Far Cry 3: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/far_cry_3_graphics_performance_review_benchmark,6.html

Looks like the gtx680 is pretty much neck and neck with hd7970GE. Why do you keep posting?

 

[Fx1]

But 50% slower than 7990.
I pay premium for Titan, and still can't max games?


Aha...I see. People want more expensive GPUs without free games, that cant even play games with all effects because the GPUs are not fast enough.

This brand loyalty is beyond insane.

I got a 7970 for £300 which leaves the 680 GTX for dust over £360 in price.

I had 3 AAA games worth nearly £100 at the time. Net price of the GPU £200

I dont care what brand is on the GPU for that deal. This is a win for me!

Do i want fat cat executives buying another boat? hell no.

 

[blackened23]

I play Tomb Raider with all effects (okay, without SSSA) in 1080p with 74FPS thanks to Titan. So now explain why should i buy a cheaper card when i must disable much more features - for example TressFX - to get the same FPS?

I think this thread is a troll, and a ridiculous one at that. Of course nvidia makes a profit.

But, you're all over the place. I was just reading in the CPU forum, according to you, that x86 is dead and that Tegra X will be the only relevant chip in 2013. So, are you going to pair your GTX Titan with a Tegra? Interesting stuff. I think I know what's going on here, as if 45,000 google search results don't make it plainly obvious. Anyway, back on topic: Please lock this abortion of a thread, IMHO, no offense to FX1 he clearly has a history of ridiculous threads/posts like this.

 

[Fx1]

Like yourself?




Latest games that have come out:



Looks like the gtx680 is pretty much neck and neck with hd7970GE. Why do you keep posting?

Im sorry but my 7970 overclocked 1125/1700 and would be even faster than those figures by 10% at least.

 

[willomz]

But 50% slower than 7990.
I pay premium for Titan, and still can't max games?

Oh OK, let me cherry pick a graph:

Titan beats the 7990.
690 beats the Ares II (the most expensive card of all).

But have either of us proven anything? No.

 

[Fx1]

I think this thread is a troll, and a ridiculous one at that. Of course nvidia makes a profit.

But, you're all over the place. I was just reading in the CPU forum, according to you, that x86 is dead and that Tegra X will be the only relevant chip in 2013. So, are you going to pair your GTX 680 with a Tegra? Interesting stuff. I think I know what's going on here. FX1 actually may be your polar opposite.

But yeah. Lock this abortion of a thread, IMHO, no offense to FX1 he clearly has a history of ridiculous threads/posts like this.

I have never posted about Tegra X?

Also what about those 4k 30" monitors you said would never happen? Ridiculous too?

Hurts to be wrong. especially within 1 week of your claims

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Work for nothing?

I know sometimes you post stupid stuff balla but lets be real.

Nvidia pays all its staff and executives bumper bonuses and makes 15% profit on top.

Profit is money you make AFTER you pay everyone.

Im not against profit but im not happy with record profits. Especially when their current line up isnt even that good.

You're right, that was stupid of me.

I should have forgotten the shareholders, investors, new project R&D, and new facilities.

Clearly you don't want a surplus of cash, you want to be operating on the break even point so everyone gets paid and the company stagnates while the investors make nothing and nobody wants to invest anymore.

 

[frowertr]

Phiff... 50% margins... I don't sell anything in my business less than keystone. If I can't double my money its not worth it.

It's a free country, OP. If you have a problem with Nvidia's business model then you can simply refuse to purchase their products. It's that simple.

I'm wondering what the OP believes is an "acceptable" profit margin??

 

[willomz]

This brand loyalty is beyond insane.

I got a 7970 for £300 which leaves the 680 GTX for dust over £360 in price.

I had 3 AAA games worth nearly £100 at the time. Net price of the GPU £200

I dont care what brand is on the GPU for that deal. This is a win for me!

Sure the 7970 is better value than the 680.

But for £300 I could buy 2x 660s and get more performance than your 7970 and get 4 free AAA games to subtract from the price.

AMD aren't the only company providing good value.

 

[SirPauly]

Im not against profit but im not happy with record profits. Especially when their current line up isnt even that good.

They didn't make record profits but record margins and FWIW, the nVidia CEO cut his pay to a dollar for many years and had it restored in 2011.

 

[blackened23]

I have never posted about Tegra X?

Also what about those 4k 30" monitors you said would never happen? Ridiculous too?

Hurts to be wrong. especially within 1 week of your claims

Clearly your memory needs to be jogged. Your claim was a 22 inch 2560x1600 monitor, if I remember correctly. Also, your reading comprehension could use some slight improvement.

 

[Erenhardt]

Oh OK, let me cherry pick a graph:

Titan beats the 7990.
690 beats the Ares II (the most expensive card of all).

But have either of us proven anything? No.

Proves you are stupid or blind...or both..
Since when 42 is more than 47?