54.4% Margins - Nvidia

Page 17 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

Fx1

Golden Member
Aug 22, 2012
1,215
5
81
Its also a new released card. If you want to play the steam survey game. For every 3 HD7970 sold, there is 1 Titan sold. Or 1 Titan sold for every 2 HD7870 or 2 GTX680.

Where do you get those figures from?
 

SirPauly

Diamond Member
Apr 28, 2009
5,187
1
0
What exactly are you trying to say here? It's not that hard to see that financials are easy to spin; there's a whole regulatory agency devoted to catching it.

Imho,

You make my point for me; it's tough to spin based on there's a whole regulatory agency devoted to catching it but hey, nothing in life is easier to spin than financials.

Financials offer data; one can choose to look at it objectively or simply dismiss the numbers as spin. Personally place more merit on the marketplace than just vocal claims of clearly better or blanket views. Personally purchase GPU's based on my subjective needs, tastes, tolerances, thresholds and wallet -- and allow the marketplace to decide which products "win" over-all for the masses -- ultimately, the market truly decides -- rightly or wrongly!
 

Fx1

Golden Member
Aug 22, 2012
1,215
5
81
Imho,

You make my point for me; it's tough to spin based on there's a whole regulatory agency devoted to catching it but hey, nothing in life is easier to spin than financials.

Financials offer data; one can choose to look at it objectively or simply dismiss the numbers as spin. Personally place more merit on the marketplace than just vocal claims of clearly better or blanket views. Personally purchase GPU's based on my subjective needs, tastes, tolerances, thresholds and wallet -- and allow the marketplace to decide which products "win" over-all for the masses -- ultimately, the market truly decides -- rightly or wrongly!

Financials get spun all the time. There are only laws covering certain things. A lot of stuff gets buried in the detail. Companies show you what they want you to see.
 

SirPauly

Diamond Member
Apr 28, 2009
5,187
1
0
Titan has sold like crazy?

It makes up 0.06% of the steam survey. Thats not even 0.1%

Every retailer in the UK has a ton of stock. The 780 GTX is rumoured to launch soon too which people are going to hold off for.

See, I found the number kinda disturbing -- the number translated into the market place kinda accepting the 1,000 MSRP. Surprised me it did do that well based on Steam and official comments made by nVidia.
 

SirPauly

Diamond Member
Apr 28, 2009
5,187
1
0
Financials get spun all the time. There are only laws covering certain things. A lot of stuff gets buried in the detail. Companies show you what they want you to see.

At times? Sure! Some companies --- show me where the spinning is with the latest reports from AMD and nVidia since nothing in life is easier to spin than financials?
 

SirPauly

Diamond Member
Apr 28, 2009
5,187
1
0
From steam, just as you. April results.

Titan grew 0.04%, HD7970 0.12%, GTX670 0.14%, HD7870 and GTX680 0.08%.

Actually, the steam numbers were good for AMD with HD 7970 and 7950 offered more growth last month than the GTX 680 and GTX 670 -- potentially momentum based on the never settle bundles and working positively for AMD.

I know it is only Steam but still may offer some gauge and insight on the specific sku's.
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
41,095
513
126
Since you hate AMD so much why do you even post? Your completely incapable of rational debate.

ATI has made some great GPU's. The 7970 is clearly a better GPU than GK104. Its faster, it clocks higher, it has more memory and it can bitcoin mine.

It still has work to do on its driver team but i imagine that this will be fixed because of the bad publicity of late.

Where did I say I hate their GPUs? When did I claims to hate AMD at all? I just think they are a loser that shoots their own feet over and over.

And I think it is pathetic that instead of realizing AMDs failures in the market somebody would blame consumers and call them retarded.
 

Fx1

Golden Member
Aug 22, 2012
1,215
5
81
From steam, just as you. April results.

Titan grew 0.04%, HD7970 0.12%, GTX670 0.14%, HD7870 and GTX680 0.08%.

You cant compare a recently launched product to one thats been on the market nearly 18 months.
 

ShintaiDK

Lifer
Apr 22, 2012
20,378
145
106
Sales are going to be fastest in the first 3 months of a products life. Current 28nm chips are nearing the end of life stage.

Look back on the previous figures when the HD7970 or GTX680 launched. And you would notice that your most hated Titan card sells like hotcakes in its price range.

28nm is far from end of its life. Lets see if we even get 20nm GPUs in any period of 2014.
 

SirPauly

Diamond Member
Apr 28, 2009
5,187
1
0
Sales are going to be fastest in the first 3 months of a products life. Current 28nm chips are nearing the end of life stage.


Yet the HD 7950 and HD 7970 may have had their best month of growth since launch.
 

Fx1

Golden Member
Aug 22, 2012
1,215
5
81
Look back on the previous figures when the HD7970 or GTX680 launched. And you would notice that your most hated Titan card sells like hotcakes in its price range.

28nm is far from end of its life. Lets see if we even get 20nm GPUs in any period of 2014.

Sells like hotcakes in its price range?

There is only one other product in its price range. How exactly do you quantify these sales?

The current generations are at end of life. 680 GTX is about to be replaced and AMD rumours are looking at 20nm by Jan 2014.
 

rolodomo

Senior member
Mar 19, 2004
269
9
81
Every retailer in the UK has a ton of stock.

Titan is widely available here in the US from top retailers, but it is now accepted truth that Titan can't meet demand, so don't bother with the real story.

There is also a glut on eBay. That's interesting because the eBay speculators made up part of the initial demand, so even initial demand was illusory.

Good job creating buzz and growing the market NVIDIA!
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
41,095
513
126
Sales are going to be fastest in the first 3 months of a products life. Current 28nm chips are nearing the end of life stage.

Hardly. Price falls on the product over the course of its life cycle. As the price falls sales increase.
 

Fx1

Golden Member
Aug 22, 2012
1,215
5
81
7970, 7950 are selling better than ever (possibly excluding first two months after the release), due to $150 or so worth game bundle.
Those bundles are just crazy(!)

Nvidia probably took a hit at high end and rightfully so, but more than recouped that with Titan

2 models available: $999 - $1,069
http://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/nvidia/titan/

The 7970 may be having a resurgence. £265 for a XFX 7970 is insane with AAA games included. Easy overclock and your way past GE speeds. With the driver improvements this is now a solid buy. Im thinking of getting another just for kicks.
 
sale-70-410-exam    | Exam-200-125-pdf    | we-sale-70-410-exam    | hot-sale-70-410-exam    | Latest-exam-700-603-Dumps    | Dumps-98-363-exams-date    | Certs-200-125-date    | Dumps-300-075-exams-date    | hot-sale-book-C8010-726-book    | Hot-Sale-200-310-Exam    | Exam-Description-200-310-dumps?    | hot-sale-book-200-125-book    | Latest-Updated-300-209-Exam    | Dumps-210-260-exams-date    | Download-200-125-Exam-PDF    | Exam-Description-300-101-dumps    | Certs-300-101-date    | Hot-Sale-300-075-Exam    | Latest-exam-200-125-Dumps    | Exam-Description-200-125-dumps    | Latest-Updated-300-075-Exam    | hot-sale-book-210-260-book    | Dumps-200-901-exams-date    | Certs-200-901-date    | Latest-exam-1Z0-062-Dumps    | Hot-Sale-1Z0-062-Exam    | Certs-CSSLP-date    | 100%-Pass-70-383-Exams    | Latest-JN0-360-real-exam-questions    | 100%-Pass-4A0-100-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-300-135-exams-date    | Passed-200-105-Tech-Exams    | Latest-Updated-200-310-Exam    | Download-300-070-Exam-PDF    | Hot-Sale-JN0-360-Exam    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Exams    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-JN0-360-exams-date    | Exam-Description-1Z0-876-dumps    | Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps    | Dumps-HPE0-Y53-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-HPE0-Y53-Exam    | 100%-Pass-HPE0-Y53-Real-Exam-Questions    | Pass-4A0-100-Exam    | Latest-4A0-100-Questions    | Dumps-98-365-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-98-365-Exam    | 100%-Pass-VCS-254-Exams    | 2017-Latest-VCS-273-Exam    | Dumps-200-355-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-300-320-Exam    | Pass-300-101-Exam    | 100%-Pass-300-115-Exams    |
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    | http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    |