560 Ti 448 vs 570 vs 7850

[aaksheytalwar]

Check toms benches at 1920x1080 with 4x aa. A 7850 about equals a 570. Both stock to stock

 

[aaksheytalwar]

http://hwbot.org/submission/2259829_

http://www.guru3d.com/article/evga-geforce-gtx-580-classified-review/21

You seem on crack.

 

[StinkyPinky]

I think the 7850 is a great card. The 2gb vram is a real plus and will last for a long time, since in another year you can put in a second 7850 and get ridiculous performance.

 

[nemesismk2]

I would get a MSI GTX 560 Ti 448

 

[gibbs007]

I'm buying a new card and I can't choose between gtx 570 and HD7850. Both cost the same, and I know 570 is faster, but I don't know if 1,28GB VRAM is enough for 1080p at highest settings. What do you say?

 

[caf1433]

Newegg had this one at $ 259 the other day, back up to $ 299. Amazon wins with this one. As for the choice OP, one can't argue the 7850 makes a good choice for long term power savings while offering more memory.

As for these MSI 448's, I can say they overclock like mad and barely break 60c under load with good case cooling. Using Afterburner, I add a mere .50mV to core voltage to get 880 core with my SLI pair. That's serious performance at $ 259.

Just bought the MSI 448 for $208 AR at Neweggbusiness:

See post here:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2234196

 

[lehtv]

+1 to 7850. More VRAM, less power consumption, great OC capacity.

 

[gibbs007]

Looking at 7850 vs. 6970 benchmarks, the 6970 is around 2FPS faster. How much can 6970 be overclocked? If both cards are OC'ed, which one is faster?

 

[lehtv]

How 7850 compares to 6970 depends on the particular game: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/549?vs=509

7850 overclocks better, no contest. 1GHz is a relatively high overclock for 6970 which starts from 880MHz. Even MSI Lightning only got up to 1023Mhz in the Guru3D review. 7850 starts from 860Mhz, and in reviews, reference cards reach up to 1140Mhz (techpowerup)! Guru3D and Anandtech reached 1050MHz. Retail cards should ensure high OC given the better cooling.

 

[Hauk]

Just bought the MSI 448 for $208 AR at Neweggbusiness:

See post here:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2234196

Nice!

 

[wand3r3r]

For the same price I'd go 7850. If there's a significant difference I'd go with what's cheapest.

On principle the 7850 is replacing the 6850 at about double the price so (at least $50 overpriced) that sucks and almost makes me want to avoid it until it drops in price.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/549?vs=518
According to that it's losing a bit to the 570, but the 560 ti 448 is a bit slower so it's probably a bit closer. If you factor in power consumption (I don't) then it's way more efficient.

Overclocking will bring it to 570 levels and at times 580. Granted the 570 can overclock too, but nearly like the 7XXX series.

So I'd personally look for a deal.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

560ti 448 is like my 470 but better, both in power usage, thermals, fan noise, and overclocking.

Most hit at least 900 core, and at that speed they're faster than 580s.

 

[Gikaseixas]

7850 since they oc really well, consume less, run cooler and have almost double memory which future games will like.

 

[bryanW1995]

Just bought the MSI 448 for $208 AR at Neweggbusiness:

See post here:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2234196

For this deal I would get the 560-448

 

[aaksheytalwar]

The point to note is that overclocking a 580 or 6970 gives no extra real fps. The performance is still the same as stock, maybe 2-4% better at most. But overclocking a 7850 can give you about 25-35% more real fps. A stock 7850 competes with 570 or 6970 or 560 ti 448. But once overclocked a 7850 competes with a 580 or 7870 stock. At the same price point I would prefer a 7850 to 6970 oc or 570 oc

 

[3DVagabond]

The point to note is that overclocking a 580 or 6970 gives no extra real fps. The performance is still the same as stock, maybe 2-4% better at most. But overclocking a 7850 can give you about 25-35% more real fps. A stock 7850 competes with 570 or 6970 or 560 ti 448. But once overclocked a 7850 competes with a 580 or 7870 stock. At the same price point I would prefer a 7850 to 6970 oc or 570 oc

All with a single 6pin connector, as well. I just wish it was ~$75 cheaper.

 

[blastingcap]

Wait a while if you can, and watch prices fall and Nvidia enter the fray with a 28nm GPU that is faster than a 7850 yet costs less.

 

[aaksheytalwar]

Seeing the 680 I see no reason to wait. It is unlikely that nvidia will release a card which can be overclocked to an extent that it rivals a gtx 580 and costs $250 or less. It surely won't beat this by a significant margin and will take at least 1.5-3 months longer for market release. Just go for amd

 

[UltraWide]

I'd get the MSI 560Ti 448 Cores.

 

[Absolute0]

7850 should win after overclocking, and use less power

I also think the memory is a big issue, having 2gb is a big deal if you want your card to last. Playing BF3 my memory usage hits around 1450mb... If you want your card to work for more than a year, having around 1 gig of memory isn't going to cut it.

 

[Delirious_Nomad]

I almost bought the 560 448 for my main machine but sprung for the 580 SC instead...

but I did put the 560 448 in my sons PC and am nothing but impressed so far...

it meets or exceeds all the benchmarks I used as a guide plus it was $250 ish (I think) and it came with a free copy of BF3 and a $20 mail in rebate (newegg.com)

great card as far as I can tell... I could have saved $200 had I not got the 580...

plus the articles I've read about PhysiX... you'll want Nvidia

 

[BallaTheFeared]

The point to note is that overclocking a 580 or 6970 gives no extra real fps. The performance is still the same as stock, maybe 2-4% better at most. But overclocking a 7850 can give you about 25-35% more real fps. A stock 7850 competes with 570 or 6970 or 560 ti 448. But once overclocked a 7850 competes with a 580 or 7870 stock. At the same price point I would prefer a 7850 to 6970 oc or 570 oc

lolwut?

You can get 20% more out of a 580 on air, even more than that out of a ti 448.

 

[bryanW1995]

The point to note is that overclocking a 580 or 6970 gives no extra real fps. The performance is still the same as stock, maybe 2-4% better at most. But overclocking a 7850 can give you about 25-35% more real fps. A stock 7850 competes with 570 or 6970 or 560 ti 448. But once overclocked a 7850 competes with a 580 or 7870 stock. At the same price point I would prefer a 7850 to 6970 oc or 570 oc

That statement does not agree with benchmarks I've seen. Please provide proof if you're going to make such outlandish claims (and by proof I mean actual benchmarks from reputable sources, not a random comment in the fudzilla forums).

words

plus the articles I've read about PhysiX... you'll want Nvidia

Not sure if serious. I pray that you aren't. What could you have possibly read that made you think that physx is a good thing? It adds very little to tiny % of games that offer it, and the performance hit is so high that it's nearly useless even in the games that offer it. There are a very few games that articially block cpu physics, however, but that is just an Nvidia trick and not a true representation of the (pathetic) value that physx offers. Nvidia has a few things that are valuable to many users, but physx is a joke.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

PhysX is amazing. I just wouldn't recommend anyone go Nvidia for that feature, think of it as a limited bonus instead.

An icing on the cake so to speak.

 

[Charlie98]

I have pretty much the same question as the OP... I've settled on the eVGA 448 but just can't quite pull the trigger, even with the prices coming down. ...and then I see the potential of the 7850...

I don't know.