560ti to 760 or 770

carling220

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Hi there

I considered upgrading before but didn't. Now i re-consider. I know there are threads all over google about this topic, but obviously prices vary considerably with time.

My 560ti I can play everything I have and own at approx 85-90% i'd say, and the easier stuff on 100%. CPU is 2500k.

If I want to get newer games though, Battlefield 4, Arkham origins, and run them on 90-100%, I feel I will need a new gpu is this correct?

I've found the 760 is about £200, the 770 about £270-80. Both seem much better than mine. Is the 770 worth an extra £70 or so over a 760?

I would keep this card for maybe 1.5-2 years as with this one, so I don't mind paying for future proofing. After gpu upgrade I can then OC my 2500K.

Or will a new card be released soon?
 

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just went thru this same dilemma. 2600k, GTX6600ti. plays everything i want but wanted to upgrade anyway. I did consider the 770 (but it just a 680 i believe) but did not want to spend big bux on a 780ti.

in the end i spent a bit more than i wanted but happy with my choice. Got a MSI Geforce780 Lightning. (MSI GeForce GTX 780 Lightning TriFrozr 980/1033MHZ 3GB 6GHZ GDDR5)

I figure i am future proofed for quite a while now. The card also came with 3 free games. (Batman Arkham Origins. Assassins Creed 4. Tom Clancy Splinter Cell Blacklist)
 
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lehtv

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I upgraded from a 560 Ti to 7950, it was a sizeable jump and worth it to me. After selling my 560 Ti, it cost me about 160 EUR net (the 7950 cost 300 EUR).

The GTX 760 is about the same speed as the 7950, but the 7950 has more VRAM and overclocks better. The GTX 770 is another 20% on top of GTX 760 while being 35-40% more expensive. Since you're looking to keep the card nearly two years, get the GTX770... I don't think the GTX 760 would really last more than a year.

Or will a new card be released soon?

Probably 5-6 months for a GTX870, I'd guess.
 
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Put it this way: the 760 is about 40-50% faster than your card, the 770 is about 70% faster. For every ten percent improvement, you're paying four euros for the 760 and four for the 770. Equally good, comes down to budget.
 

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Hi there

I considered upgrading before but didn't. Now i re-consider. I know there are threads all over google about this topic, but obviously prices vary considerably with time.

My 560ti I can play everything I have and own at approx 85-90% i'd say, and the easier stuff on 100%. CPU is 2500k.

If I want to get newer games though, Battlefield 4, Arkham origins, and run them on 90-100%, I feel I will need a new gpu is this correct?

I've found the 760 is about £200, the 770 about £270-80. Both seem much better than mine. Is the 770 worth an extra £70 or so over a 760?

I would keep this card for maybe 1.5-2 years as with this one, so I don't mind paying for future proofing. After gpu upgrade I can then OC my 2500K.

Or will a new card be released soon?

If you want to play games at 90% or higher for 1 year or more get the 770. Definitely the 770 minimum.

You'll be compromising with the 760 GTX IMO on a number of titles.


My perspective here is based on 60fps locked with sync or bust type mentality. I've had much better gameplay feel/experience with 60fps locked first priority and settings second. If ya can get both then thats nirvana, but 60fps locked comes first in my book. Your 2500k gets ya done on CPU horsepower, for GPU horsepower at 90%+ detail and solid 60fps you'd be better served with 780 type horsepower than 770 IMO. 770 probably good for 75% detail when trying to lock to 60fps.
 

lehtv

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Put it this way: the 760 is about 40-50% faster than your card, the 770 is about 70% faster. For every ten percent improvement, you're paying four euros for the 760 and four for the 770. Equally good, comes down to budget.

You mean for every one percent improvement he's paying four British pounds :thumbsup:
 

lehtv

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Your 2500k gets ya done on CPU horsepower, for GPU horsepower at 90%+ detail and solid 60fps you'd be better served with 780 type horsepower than 770 IMO. 770 probably good for 75% detail when trying to lock to 60fps.

And that's the sensible option. Not only is a 780 worse bang for quid, but the highest image quality settings typically incur a performance hit much bigger than the improvement in visuals would suggest.
 

Termie

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You mean for every one percent improvement he's paying four British pounds :thumbsup:

Indeed, lost of track of the monetary system I was dealing with among all the calculations!

I should add that even though both the 760 and 770 offer the same improvement per pound, the 770 is actually the better-priced option right now. You usually have to pay a premium for each step up in performance, but the 770 does not command a premium. It's the best overall upgrade, as others have suggested.
 

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My CPU is a 2600k. I did have a GTX 560Ti and replaced it with a 4GB GTX760 and am very pleased with it.
 

FalseChristian

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The 2GB GTX 760 is the best NVidia bang-for-the-buck card. It's 70% faster than a 560 Ti and 2GB is more than enough for 1920x1200 and below. There is a 4GB version but costs $70 more up here in Canada. Not worth it in my opinion. The 3GB 7950 is also an excellent choice and I'm an NVidia fan-boy!
 

carling220

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Thanks for the replies guys sorry I couldnt reply earlier. I do think it's time. I just downloaded 3d mark from steam for £1.80 on sale, and ran the firestorm test if any of you are familiar with that.

I got 3130 or so, which in the comparison doesn't compare that favorably lol. FPS was struggling to even stay near 20! I will soon buy a GPU and then run the test again.
 

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Thanks for the replies guys sorry I couldnt repwould come in around
ly earlier. I do think it's time. I just downloaded 3d mark from steam for £1.80 on sale, and ran the firestorm test if any of you are familiar with that.

I got 3130 or so, which in the comparison doesn't compare that favorably lol. FPS was struggling to even stay near 20! I will soon buy a GPU and then run the test again.

What was the graphics score on its own? Should be around 4000. A GTX770 8000.
 

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When my 7850 failed earlier this year, i had to make the same choice as well Op and i jumped on the 770. Solid upgrade overall.
 

carling220

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What was the graphics score on its own? Should be around 4000. A GTX770 8000.

Overall score 3131.
Graphics Score: 3392
Physics 6209

So yeah the graphics score lower than 4000 by a fair bit! I ran the standard firestorm test I think, as if you change anything it declares the results not valid doesn't it, so I left it default.


Edit just compared with online, where it says 560ti usually gets a graphics score of 4730. My games run well. I wonder if when running the test I had stuff on in the background perhaps? Seems unlikely mine would be over a 1000 lower?


I also have 1 quick question. If I buy a 770 say, next week, it won't drop from £250 to £200 or less in a month will it, the next price decrease should be a while off right?
 
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Termie

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Overall score 3131.
Graphics Score: 3392
Physics 6209

So yeah the graphics score lower than 4000 by a fair bit! I ran the standard firestorm test I think, as if you change anything it declares the results not valid doesn't it, so I left it default.


Edit just compared with online, where it says 560ti usually gets a graphics score of 4730. My games run well. I wonder if when running the test I had stuff on in the background perhaps? Seems unlikely mine would be over a 1000 lower?


I also have 1 quick question. If I buy a 770 say, next week, it won't drop from £250 to £200 or less in a month will it, the next price decrease should be a while off right?

Perhaps you have something set in your drivers, like vsync, that's throwing off the score. That's quite a bit lower than a 560ti should hit. Maybe do a clean install of the latest drivers from Nvidia.

As for prices, well, the 770 just dropped in price last month, so no, it probably won't drop again until the spring.
 

RaistlinZ

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The 2GB GTX 760 is the best NVidia bang-for-the-buck card. It's 70% faster than a 560 Ti and 2GB is more than enough for 1920x1200 and below. There is a 4GB version but costs $70 more up here in Canada. Not worth it in my opinion. The 3GB 7950 is also an excellent choice and I'm an NVidia fan-boy!

The 760 is not 70% faster than a 560 Ti. :hmm: More like 40%.

The 770 is about 60% faster.

 

Wall Street

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The 760 is not 70% faster than a 560 Ti. :hmm: More like 40%.

The 770 is about 60% faster.

100 / 63 = 1.59

The GTX 760 is about 59% faster than the GTX 560 Ti. The GTX 560 Ti is about 37% slower than the GTX 760.

The GTX 770 is about 92% faster (121 / 63 = 1.92).

Math is fun.
 
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carling220

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Yeah so essentially the 760 is a lot better than mine, the 770 is hugely better than mine. If I'm keeping for a couple year I think 770 is best shot.

Anyone know cheapest place to buy?

Although for £100 more I can buy a ps4 lol. The 770 and 2500k should be better than a ps4 id think though surely?
 

lehtv

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There's an Asus GTX 760 for £190 on ebuyer, and an MSI GTX 770 Gaming for £252 on Scan. These are the best ones I could find via pcpartpicker.com. I would buy the GTX 770, it's only 32% more for another 20% boost in performance. Also I've bought from scan before and they have next day delivery as default last I checked.

The 770 and 2500k should be better than a ps4 id think though surely?

Definitely
 
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carling220

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We'll I'm going to order the 770 I think, since I nearly paid 30 for batman any way so that and the other two games will make up the difference!

Just wondering whether I need to order a certain version? Like some say OC and some aren't , different prices and different names e.g. eVGA, phantom, msi etc?
 

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Good choice, I upgraded from a 560TI to a 670, which is a bit faster than a 760 and the improvement was remarkable, but then I play on a 1680x1080 monitor. I still needed to overclock it to beyond a 680's performance to get smooth framerates with everything maxed out but then I'm using an overclocked i5 750.

One thing to note, if as I believe the 680/770 has a 256bit memory bus, overclocking the memory will give you massive performance gains. Most Kepler cards should be able to reach nearly 7GHz for the memory. I used Metro Last Light to ensure there weren't any artefacts and then clocked it a bit lower than that after I noticed that in Crysis 3, the grenade aim Ark was all over the place so I down-clocked it a little more until it behaved like it should and now I get very smooth framerates in every game I can throw at it.
 

carling220

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Thanks for that, valuable information. I'm not sure how to OC to be honest yet, so should I buy one that says it's already OC'd?

Oh and I assume a 770 will definitely fit my motherboard since the 560 does? Cooling etc the same should be fine, power supply?

Apologies for all the questions, I had my PC built for me and really need to learn more when I get time.
 
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