5770 crossfire with 58xx series?

[Widowmaker5000]

I recently purchased an evga x58 sli le mobo and decided to put a 5770 on it. Compared to a PS3 in high def i am very pleased with the results. However for future sake i would like to put another card in. I havnt seen any tests but I've heard that the 58xx series will crossfire with the 59xx series. My guess is because they have the same gpu. Well what about the 5770? If I purchase a 5850 to go in crossfire with my 5770 would they work together?

 

[happy medium]

no, 57xx only crossfires with the 57xx series.
58xx with the 58xx series.

By the way your board does not support crossfire.
It supports SLI of Nvidia cards.

http://www.evga.com/products/moreinfo.asp?pn=141-BL-E757-TR&pwindow=features&family=

 

[Widowmaker5000]

it does support crossfire up to three way i did my research i wouldnt believe anything you told me about that. Do you have the owners manual? Did you look at the back of the box?

 

[Widowmaker5000]

[QUOTE: By the way your board does not support crossfire.
It supports SLI of Nvidia cards]


it does support crossfire up to three way i did my research i wouldnt believe anything you told me about that. Do you have the owners manual? Did you look at the back of the box?

 

[Spikey217]

That crossfire combination doesn't seem to work.

http://game.amd.com/us-en/content/images/crossfirex/CF_combo_chart.jpg

 

[blanketyblank]

Not sure if your board can support it, but trifire with 5770s is pretty damn good. It beats out 5850s crossfired though loses out to 5870s. Pretty impressive for a $150 savings.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-5770-in-3way-crossfirex-review-test/12

 

[Widowmaker5000]

Well if it doesnt support it then its false advertisement. It clearly states it on the box. " Enthusiast Layout Supporting 2-way SLI, 3-way SLI, or CrossFireX "

 

[Spikey217]

Your mobo will do crossfire. eVGA just doesn't advertise it or ship the board with a bridge.

 

[happy medium]

I'm sorry it seems it does support it by default. I was going by the EVGA web site which didn't say a thing about crossfire support.
I wasn't trying to mislead you.

Well in any case the answer is no you can't crossfire a 58xx with a 57xx.

 

[Widowmaker5000]

That just goes to show you, dont believe everything you see

 

[Allio]

That just goes to show you, dont believe everything you see

Ok, he's learned his life lesson. How about you learn one too - don't attack people who are only trying to help you?

 

[Widowmaker5000]

OK so why are you attacking me...nothin better to do? I felt bad for comin across harsh mediator. Its not worth my time to argue

 

[drew726]

short fuse there

 

[digitaldurandal]

I believe all x58 boards with mutliple pcie layouts support crossfire it is part of the design.. not all boards are licensed for sli though.

Personally I do not recommend going with multiple videocards. You will experience driver headaches with new games, games that simply do not support it (cod mw2 gets less frames with 2 cards from either company in some reviews, while in others it seems to work fine - in my own experience 285 sli did NOT work with it) and finally microstutter.

Sell the 5770 youll take perhaps a hit of ten bucks at this point, and get a 5850. Another option is keep the 5770 for now, when Nvidia launches see what they offer and where prices settle and grab a more perminent solution at that time.

 

[drew726]

I don't agree with that. I've never had any headaches crossfiring and two 5770's are faster than a 5870.

 

[tweakboy]

ditto , no mix and match.. gotta be same board gl

 

[digitaldurandal]

I don't agree with that. I've never had any headaches crossfiring and two 5770's are faster than a 5870.

Search "Microstutter" see what comes up.

Run cod mw2 with fraps with one card and then two.

Then return and post.

 

[happy medium]

Search "Microstutter" see what comes up.

Run cod mw2 with fraps with one card and then two.

Then return and post.

I made sure I waited and looked up "microstutter" before I bought A 5xxx series card.
Guess what? Microstutter is a 48xx series problem.
I know what microstutter is believe me, when playing COD MW2 with 2 4830's.
My 5750's work just fine, same game, same windows 7 install, problem gone.

Crossfire has come a long way. (90% scaling and no microstutter,scaling on all good modern games).

 

[cbn]

I made sure I waited and looked up "microstutter" before I bought A 5xxx series card.
Guess what? Microstutter is a 48xx series problem.
I know what microstutter is believe me, when playing COD MW2 with 2 4830's.
My 5750's work just fine, same game, same windows 7 install, problem gone.

Crossfire has come a long way. (90% scaling and no microstutter,scaling on all good modern games).

That is good to hear about "micro stutter" issues resolving.

Trouble with Crossfiring two mainstream cards is that the price advanatge isn't really that great. (I guess packaging costs/warehousing/shipping associated with two separate retail packages offsets some advantages of improved die yields for the smaller chips. That and the costs of "mirrored" memory on two HD5770s vs one HD58xx)

 

[Widowmaker5000]

I was thinkin I might sell my 5770 depending on when Nvidea comes out w/there mix, but it is a kick ass card if you ask me

 

[PCboy]

All these newcomers are so entertaining.

 

[blanketyblank]

That is good to hear about "micro stutter" issues resolving.

Trouble with Crossfiring two mainstream cards is that the price advanatge isn't really that great. (I guess packaging costs/warehousing/shipping associated with two separate retail packages offsets some advantages of improved die yields for the smaller chips. That and the costs of "mirrored" memory on two HD5770s vs one HD58xx)

I think it depends on how and when you price things. The way I look at crossfire is:
1. I can either buy a 5850 for 300 or a 5770 for 150 now and they'll both get over 30 fps in the games I play right now.
2. Some months from now when DX11 games are more mainstream and the 5770 is falling behind I now have the option of either:
a) spending about 130 and getting a second card and performance around a 5870.
b) selling it probably around $100 and getting a 5850 or similar(probably about 250 at this point).

This is all speculation about prices, but in my experience the mainstream cards keep their resale value better(since they have less to go and larger target market). The High end cards( like the 8800GTX Ultra was 700+ in 2007) can fall in value quickly(about 100 something now) so mainstream provides more options in the future with a bit of work.

 

[digitaldurandal]

I made sure I waited and looked up "microstutter" before I bought A 5xxx series card.
Guess what? Microstutter is a 48xx series problem.
I know what microstutter is believe me, when playing COD MW2 with 2 4830's.
My 5750's work just fine, same game, same windows 7 install, problem gone.

Crossfire has come a long way. (90% scaling and no microstutter,scaling on all good modern games).

Really because there is an article and a video showing microstutter in 5xxx series cards. (trying to find it now)

I have a 5870.

Microstutter also exists with Nvidia.

Pcgameshardware has a good explanation of it, it has nothing to do with scaling, it has to do with the way the graphics cards deliver frames

 

[digitaldurandal]

Heres quite a few people chiming in on hardforum with dual 58xx series noting microstutter.

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1458815&page=2

There is a video showing microstutter of crossfire 5850s or 5870 and gtx 260s in Clear Sky but I cannot find it.

This isn't the one I was looking for but at least demonstrates what MS is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYnX...64F2EC3F&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=38

Either way I do not see it having a solution any time soon. The problem is that the GPU does not know how long it will take to render a frame, therefor neither gpu really knows how long until the other will deliver the frame.

Lets say the first gpu renders its first two frames in 15ms and 15ms (16 2/3 ms is 60fps)
the other gpu renders its two frames in 29ms. The frames are delivered to your screen but there is a much longer gap of time between frame 1 and 3 than 2 and 3, this is microstutter. Of course your monitor will refresh normally so it causes a stutter to be noticed in movement because it is as if everything changed speed to your perception for a single set of frames.

Some people notice it, others do not. Personally I have noticed it only in one game but I have had driver issues in multiple games with multi gpu solutions.

 

[CitanUzuki]

who is this freak? take it easy buddy.