5800U Doom3 Shocker!

[jm0ris0n]

Rollo, these are some very cool findings

 

[jm0ris0n]

Another funny/cool observation is my girlfriend's computer.

1.4Ghz Duron, 512 SDRAM (not DDR), Radeon 9800 Pro

Lol, this machine ain't to bad (this is her Quakecon rig)

 

[DHC]

agreed with u on that one, i love that card too.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: DHC
agreed with u on that one, i love that card too.

Thanks! The 5800U is one of the coolest cards of all time IMHO. In the ranks of the 3dfx V5 6000 and the ATI Rage Fury MAXX.

The current 6800Us come close on the "mucho macho grande" scale.

 

[Rage187]

Rollo, you have lost your mind.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Rage187
Rollo, you have lost your mind.

How so?

 

[Rage187]

"The current 6800Us come close on the "mucho macho grande" scale"

to a 5800ultra???

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Rage187
"The current 6800Us come close on the "mucho macho grande" scale"

to a 5800ultra???

Ahh, I get it.

Yeah obviously the 6800U is a much better card than the 5800U, but:
A. The 5800U has a 500MHz core, still faster than 6800U
B. The 5800U has the FlowFX, a definite "hot rodder" add-on. How many guys have Silencers now?
C. The 5800Us were all built on special high quality PCBs by nVidia, distributed to boardmakers for fan add on only.
D. The 5800U is the original dual slot behemoth.

 

[Rage187]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Rage187
"The current 6800Us come close on the "mucho macho grande" scale"

to a 5800ultra???

Ahh, I get it.

Yeah obviously the 6800U is a much better card than the 5800U, but:
A. The 5800U has a 500MHz core, still faster than 6800U
B. The 5800U has the FlowFX, a definite "hot rodder" add-on. How many guys have Silencers now?
C. The 5800Us were all built on special high quality PCBs by nVidia, distributed to boardmakers for fan add on only.
D. The 5800U is the original dual slot behemoth.

A. Doesnt mean anything when it loses to even the 9600 in benchmarks, save D3.
B. Thats because it ran so freaking hot.
C. PCB is a PCB, the fact that there was no leeway available for companys like BFG and Evga just shows what a crappy unflexible design it was.
D. My 5900 is a duel slot, and it was out before the 5800U was even conceived.

 

[nRollo]

Sheesh Rage, hate to say it, but half of what you posted came out of a crack pipe.

1. The 5800U, pretty much lands between the 9700 and 9700Pro on most benchmarks. (and smokes a 9600anything in most)
2. 5900s came out after 5800s? They were meant to address the limitations of the 5800s with their 256 bit memory interface and better shader performance? Even so 5800Us are about as fastas 5900NUs at most benchmarks.

 

[hytek369]

thats interesting

 

[Rage187]

Originally posted by: Rollo
Sheesh Rage, hate to say it, but half of what you posted came out of a crack pipe.


2. 5900s came out after 5800s? They were meant to address the limitations of the 5800s with their 256 bit memory interface and better shader performance? Even so 5800Us are about as fastas 5900NUs at most benchmarks.

my bad, I had 5600 on the mind.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Rage187

Originally posted by: Rollo
Sheesh Rage, hate to say it, but half of what you posted came out of a crack pipe.


2. 5900s came out after 5800s? They were meant to address the limitations of the 5800s with their 256 bit memory interface and better shader performance? Even so 5800Us are about as fastas 5900NUs at most benchmarks.

my bad, I had 5600 on the mind.

NP, you were surprising me though. :beer:

 

[Rage187]

I'm a little off today.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: Rollo

B. The 5800U has the FlowFX, a definite "hot rodder" add-on. How many guys have Silencers now?

People get the Silencers because they keep things quiet and blow the hot air out of the case, the FlowFX does neither.

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Rage187

Originally posted by: Rollo
Sheesh Rage, hate to say it, but half of what you posted came out of a crack pipe.


2. 5900s came out after 5800s? They were meant to address the limitations of the 5800s with their 256 bit memory interface and better shader performance? Even so 5800Us are about as fastas 5900NUs at most benchmarks.

my bad, I had 5600 on the mind.

NP, you were surprising me though. :beer:

yet the 5600s and the 5800s were out before the 5900s were, so what are you talking about?

 

[Rage187]

Well the only other things I havent mentioned are the 5200, 5500, and the 5700. Pick one or all, and thats the one I meant.

 

[Killrose]

OMFG, what do you do, have that thing hanging over your fire place like a prized firearm?

I can't wait to see your full suite of HL2 benchmarks, LOL

 

[Zebo]

Too bad there's no vindication for dooms sh1t ass game play.

 

[caz67]

It was worth buying after all.LOL

 

[Marsumane]

One of these (non-ultra) were 106 yesterday at newegg! Good price for that card considering it would kill the equivaently priced 9600p

 

[MDE]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
As far as i know the slowest GDDR3 bin speed for samsung is 1.1ghz, so i could see some easy OCing potential as well on the memory.<BR><BR>Correction the bins are 1.0ghz, 1.1ghz, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4, 1.5, 1.6. With 1.3ghz+ being rediculously expensive.

The 5800 Ultra used DDR2, not GDDR3.

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: Rollo

B. The 5800U has the FlowFX, a definite "hot rodder" add-on. How many guys have Silencers now?

People get the Silencers because they keep things quiet and blow the hot air out of the case, the FlowFX does neither.

It may not be quiet, but it does get the hot air out of the case. The FlowFX solution wasn't executed very well, but it was a good idea. If they didn't do intake and exhaust through the backplate it would have been much quieter and more efficient.

EDIT: Rollo, think we should petition Carmack for the re-inclusion of the NV3x path?

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: MDE

Originally posted by: Acanthus
As far as i know the slowest GDDR3 bin speed for samsung is 1.1ghz, so i could see some easy OCing potential as well on the memory.<BR><BR>Correction the bins are 1.0ghz, 1.1ghz, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4, 1.5, 1.6. With 1.3ghz+ being rediculously expensive.

The 5800 Ultra used DDR2, not GDDR3.

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: Rollo

B. The 5800U has the FlowFX, a definite "hot rodder" add-on. How many guys have Silencers now?

People get the Silencers because they keep things quiet and blow the hot air out of the case, the FlowFX does neither.

It may not be quiet, but it does get the hot air out of the case. The FlowFX solution wasn't executed very well, but it was a good idea. If they didn't do intake and exhaust through the backplate it would have been much quieter and more efficient.

EDIT: Rollo, think we should petition Carmack for the re-inclusion of the NV3x path?

You must not do that MDE. That would result in lower 6800 upgrade sales, and....OOOOPPSSS! The cat is out of the bag!



Seriously, IMO the nV3x path should be in Doom3 given how much it helped nV3Xs and how many people bought them to play Doom3.

Killrose, I sadly sold the 5800U for $150., my four year old didn't like it as much as I.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: Rage187

Originally posted by: Rollo
Sheesh Rage, hate to say it, but half of what you posted came out of a crack pipe.


2. 5900s came out after 5800s? They were meant to address the limitations of the 5800s with their 256 bit memory interface and better shader performance? Even so 5800Us are about as fastas 5900NUs at most benchmarks.

my bad, I had 5600 on the mind.

actually the 5800U came first in the FX series. After we learned that the 5800 was so terrible, it wasn't a shocker than the 5600 and especially the 5200 were also sub par parts, which is why all but the 5200 recieved a quick change in the 5700 and the 5900 to actually give them competing performances.

 

[slightlyhuman]

cool

 

[BespinReactorShaft]

:shocked:
Jaysus H Christ, Batman!!