5800U Doom3 Shocker!

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: Rage187

Originally posted by: Rollo
Sheesh Rage, hate to say it, but half of what you posted came out of a crack pipe.


2. 5900s came out after 5800s? They were meant to address the limitations of the 5800s with their 256 bit memory interface and better shader performance? Even so 5800Us are about as fastas 5900NUs at most benchmarks.

my bad, I had 5600 on the mind.

actually the 5800U came first in the FX series. After we learned that the 5800 was so terrible, it wasn't a shocker than the 5600 and especially the 5200 were also sub par parts, which is why all but the 5200 recieved a quick change in the 5700 and the 5900 to actually give them competing performances.

It always amazes me when guys like Bunnyfubbles, who have cards that look like junky antiques compared to 5800Ultras, hop into (get it, "hop"?) threads like this to slam a card that's superior to theirs by far.

Can you even play Doom 3 on a 8500, Bunny?

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Beat the game on it, it wasn't pretty but it played. Sure I'd take a 5800U over my 8500 anyday, care to give me one? Thing is, is that even if I did have the money to throw away into video cards I would never have considered the FX series as an alternative, with the exception of the 5900s as they performed fairly well keeping up with if not surpassing the respective 9800s they competed with. Really, the thing that gets me is guys like you who can't seem to admit that your beloved nVidia lost a round.

Sucesses (not even including TNT):

GeForce 1 = first to be coined a "GPU", win
GeForce 2 = single chip GTS defeats anything ATI or 3Dfx can do in 2 chips, and then there was even the Ultra, win
GeForce 3 = 3Dfx dead, only the 8500 could compete with it, and it came nearly too late, win
GeForce 4 = MX yeah, still the same old MX, but the slowest Ti (4200) easily bested the 8500 until matured drivers helped it to catch up, win

Failure:

It wasn't until AFTER the GeForce 4 that nVidia wasn't the clear winner, I guess its tough when giants like nVidia and the Yankees lose, because you've been convinced its a sure thing and now we have to make a choice?! how dare they complicate our lives...

GeForce 5 = pushed .13 too fast and on their parts that performed. Result? risk wasn't worth it, GF5 series is ultimately a let down to the die hard nVidiots, except you, Rollo, where you somehow convinced yourself that a card that is too hot and too loud somehow redeems itself.

You claim it has the uniqueness factor to it just like a Voodoo 5 or Rage MAXX, while I would never want a card like a 5800U, Voodoo5, or a Rage MAXX simply because they didn't perform well in their debut, especially when compared to other options. Well I guess the Voodoo 5 had a practical purpose if you were going to use it for some Glide based games but other than that exception I spend what little money I can set aside for my computer to get me the most out of it and last for a good few years.

Success:

GeFroce 6 = New GF6 line seems to be on par if not ahead of the new Radeons


Ok, so they're 5 for 6 and you're complaining about "guys like me" talking down an inferior product when the numbers are on my side? Oh no! I forgot! ALL HAIL NVIDIA, GODS OF THE VIDEO CHIP MARKET!!! THEY ARE PERFECT IN EVERYWAY AND NEVER DISSAPOINT!!!

Phew, hopefully they call off their sniper assassins now that I have seen the error of my ways and have repented.

 

[fsstrike]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: DHC
agreed with u on that one, i love that card too.

Thanks! The 5800U is one of the coolest cards of all time IMHO. In the ranks of the 3dfx V5 6000 and the ATI Rage Fury MAXX.

The current 6800Us come close on the "mucho macho grande" scale.

Its cool because it was a huge failure?

 

[jiffylube1024]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: Rage187

Originally posted by: Rollo
Sheesh Rage, hate to say it, but half of what you posted came out of a crack pipe.


2. 5900s came out after 5800s? They were meant to address the limitations of the 5800s with their 256 bit memory interface and better shader performance? Even so 5800Us are about as fastas 5900NUs at most benchmarks.

my bad, I had 5600 on the mind.

actually the 5800U came first in the FX series. After we learned that the 5800 was so terrible, it wasn't a shocker than the 5600 and especially the 5200 were also sub par parts, which is why all but the 5200 recieved a quick change in the 5700 and the 5900 to actually give them competing performances.

It always amazes me when guys like Bunnyfubbles, who have cards that look like junky antiques compared to 5800Ultras, hop into (get it, "hop"?) threads like this to slam a card that's superior to theirs by far.

Can you even play Doom 3 on a 8500, Bunny?

Do you ever cease being a pr!ck Rollo, or consider that not everyone can afford even a $150-200 video card? By the way - hilarious play on bunnyfubbles name. Har-dy har har. Hey Rollo, that's like chocolate right? Duhhhhh.

 

[nRollo]

Bunnyfubbles:

Really, the thing that gets me is guys like you who can't seem to admit that your beloved nVidia lost a round.

The thing that gets me about guys like you is you can't seem to admit there doesn't have to be a "winner" and "loser"- you can actually appreciate both brands for what they offer. (concept)
Guys like you act like cheerleaders for your favorite brand of the moment, acolytes of the hardware review community.
"Yay! DriverHeaven says the X800XT is teh roxor! It clearly bests the 6800U at this benchmark, by 11.1009%!!!!"
Guys like me usually buy both and check them out myself, enjoy what they have to offer.
You wouldn't have wanted a MAXX? Your loss. I sold my faster GF1 at a big loss and bought a MAXX at my local Best Buy, even though I knew it was slower and had driver issues. It was a neat piece of hardware, like the concept.

FSStrike:

Its cool because it was a huge failure?

Nope. It was cool because it was either the second or first best card you could buy at the time, and engineered like an OCing experiment. For guys like you FSSTrike, who keep video cards/motherboards 3 years, it would have been a bad choice. For guys like me, who set a record if a card is in my box 8 months, it was a blast to play with.

JiffyLube:

Do you ever cease being a pr!ck Rollo, or consider that not everyone can afford even a $150-200 video card? By the way - hilarious play on bunnyfubbles name. Har-dy har har. Hey Rollo, that's like chocolate right? Duhhhhh

Note I didn't seek out Bunnyfubbles thread about a card I know full well he loves and flame away at it- Bunnyfubbles came to my thread. I make it clear in this thread and many others I am all about the 5800U, should I have just said, "Thanks for sniping at me Bunny."? So why aren't you asking Bunnyfubbles why he came to my thread to flame me? Who's the prick? The guy who started the flaming? Or the guy who defended himself and his opinions? Making any sense to you here, Jiffy? Or do I need to break it down more? Maybe discuss some "cause and effect"? Maybe discuss some "Judge not lest ye be judged"?

"Rollo" is from the 1970s sitcom "Sanford & Son". Rollo Larson was Lamont's friend.

 

[fsstrike]

Originally posted by: Rollo
Bunnyfubbles:

Really, the thing that gets me is guys like you who can't seem to admit that your beloved nVidia lost a round.

The thing that gets me about guys like you is you can't seem to admit there doesn't have to be a "winner" and "loser"- you can actually appreciate both brands for what they offer. (concept)
Guys like you act like cheerleaders for your favorite brand of the moment, acolytes of the hardware review community.
"Yay! DriverHeaven says the X800XT is teh roxor! It clearly bests the 6800U at this benchmark, by 11.1009%!!!!"
Guys like me usually buy both and check them out myself, enjoy what they have to offer.
You wouldn't have wanted a MAXX? Your loss. I sold my faster GF1 at a big loss and bought a MAXX at my local Best Buy, even though I knew it was slower and had driver issues. It was a neat piece of hardware, like the concept.

FSStrike:

Its cool because it was a huge failure?

Nope. It was cool because it was either the second or first best card you could buy at the time, and engineered like an OCing experiment. For guys like you FSSTrike, who keep video cards/motherboards 3 years, it would have been a bad choice. For guys like me, who set a record if a card is in my box 8 months, it was a blast to play with.

JiffyLube:

Do you ever cease being a pr!ck Rollo, or consider that not everyone can afford even a $150-200 video card? By the way - hilarious play on bunnyfubbles name. Har-dy har har. Hey Rollo, that's like chocolate right? Duhhhhh

Note I didn't seek out Bunnyfubbles thread about a card I know full well he loves and flame away at it- Bunnyfubbles came to my thread. I make it clear in this thread and many others I am all about the 5800U, should I have just said, "Thanks for sniping at me Bunny."? So why aren't you asking Bunnyfubbles why he came to my thread to flame me? Who's the prick? The guy who started the flaming? Or the guy who defended himself and his opinions? Making any sense to you here, Jiffy? Or do I need to break it down more? Maybe discuss some "cause and effect"? Maybe discuss some "Judge not lest ye be judged"?

"Rollo" is from the 1970s sitcom "Sanford & Son". Rollo Larson was Lamont's friend.

It wasnt a failure? The 5800 sold horribly, and in fact was cancelled pretty fast.

 

[imported_ewright]

Originally posted by: Falloutboy
wow pretty cool....for the 2 people who puchaced one

:laugh:

 

[nRollo]

It wasnt a failure? The 5800 sold horribly, and in fact was cancelled pretty fast.

I guess if you define "failure" as being second best in the world, it was a "failure" FS.
Ever occur to you that nVidia probably lost money on every unit due to low yields on 500MHz chips, higher layer PCB, elaborate copper cooling, and 1.6NS DDR2?

The fact of the matter is FSStrike, you will never in your life do anything close to the level of success the 5800U was.

You will never be second best in the world at anything, the company you work for will probably never be second best in the world at anything, hell, you and everyone you know would probably be lucky to 10,000th best in the world at anything.

Yet there you sit- flaming away at the engineering accomplishment of men 100X your better.

You want to talk "failure"? It's likely as close as your mirror even by standards 100X more lax than you're imposing on nVidia?

Or am I wrong and we'd all know your real name because you're the best at something and in some sort of position to cast stones at the second place effort?

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: Rollo
Bunnyfubbles:

Really, the thing that gets me is guys like you who can't seem to admit that your beloved nVidia lost a round.

The thing that gets me about guys like you is you can't seem to admit there doesn't have to be a "winner" and "loser"- you can actually appreciate both brands for what they offer. (concept)
Guys like you act like cheerleaders for your favorite brand of the moment, acolytes of the hardware review community.
"Yay! DriverHeaven says the X800XT is teh roxor! It clearly bests the 6800U at this benchmark, by 11.1009%!!!!"
Guys like me usually buy both and check them out myself, enjoy what they have to offer.
You wouldn't have wanted a MAXX? Your loss. I sold my faster GF1 at a big loss and bought a MAXX at my local Best Buy, even though I knew it was slower and had driver issues. It was a neat piece of hardware, like the concept.

Yeah there doesn't have to be a winner, because this round is closer to a tie. If you were smart you'd know I'm not a fanboy because I go with whatever option is the best for my money at the time (the fact that I was able to get an 8500 for $200 when GeForce 3s were going for $300+ was a no brainer to me even when the GF3s still had the edge due to drivers)

The only reason I go after you is because you won't give up pimping nVidia no matter the cost, even if its giving out bad or misleading information. Heck I didn't even directly go after you or this thread with my first post in this thread, all I did was make a comment about how dissapointing the GF5 series was. It was you who took it a step further to defend the GF5 against my truth.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Second place in a market where there are only 2 real performance contenders for games is also last place... 2nd fastest could mean 100fps compared to 200... keep coming with the misleading information

 

[reever]

Originally posted by: Rollo

It wasnt a failure? The 5800 sold horribly, and in fact was cancelled pretty fast.

The fact of the matter is FSStrike, you will never in your life do anything close to the level of success the 5800U was.

You will never be second best in the world at anything, the company you work for will probably never be second best in the world at anything, hell, you and everyone you know would probably be lucky to 10,000th best in the world at anything.

Yet there you sit- flaming away at the engineering accomplishment of men 100X your better.

You want to talk "failure"? It's likely as close as your mirror even by standards 100X more lax than you're imposing on nVidia?

Or am I wrong and we'd all know your real name because you're the best at something and in some sort of position to cast stones at the second place effort?

Rollo, what the hell are you rambling about?

 

[jiffylube1024]

Originally posted by: Rollo

It wasnt a failure? The 5800 sold horribly, and in fact was cancelled pretty fast.

I guess if you define "failure" as being second best in the world, it was a "failure" FS.
Ever occur to you that nVidia probably lost money on every unit due to low yields on 500MHz chips, higher layer PCB, elaborate copper cooling, and 1.6NS DDR2?

The fact of the matter is FSStrike, you will never in your life do anything close to the level of success the 5800U was.

You will never be second best in the world at anything, the company you work for will probably never be second best in the world at anything, hell, you and everyone you know would probably be lucky to 10,000th best in the world at anything.

Yet there you sit- flaming away at the engineering accomplishment of men 100X your better.

You want to talk "failure"? It's likely as close as your mirror even by standards 100X more lax than you're imposing on nVidia?

Or am I wrong and we'd all know your real name because you're the best at something and in some sort of position to cast stones at the second place effort?

Now I've seen it all. Apparently "accomplishement" and "being a good man" has to do with how sucessful a video card someone makes or how much money they earn. Are these the morals you're teaching your kid?

What a zealot you are. You can't even admit that the 5800 series was a failure; a rushed o/c job with an outrageous cooler to keep up with the 9700 at the time (oh wait, it was all TSMC's fault, right?).

It's ironic that a person as concerned with "morals" as you are (overclocking is the devil, to paraphrase) tears into anyone ferociously because they don't agree with you, they post something you don't agree with (ie 5800U was a failure) have less money than you , have "accomplished" less in life (you know this how?), are not from the US, or any other absolutely moronic reason to do so.

There's a reason nobody takes you seriously Rollo.

 

[jiffylube1024]

Originally posted by: Rollo

It wasnt a failure? The 5800 sold horribly, and in fact was cancelled pretty fast.

I guess if you define "failure" as being second best in the world, it was a "failure" FS.
Ever occur to you that nVidia probably lost money on every unit due to low yields on 500MHz chips, higher layer PCB, elaborate copper cooling, and 1.6NS DDR2?

^ Also, come to think of it, before you started your usual frothy mouthed rhetoric of calling the next person a failure in life, what were you trying to prove here? You describe in detail how nVidia probably lost money on each sale to support your argument that it wasn't a failure.

 

[fsstrike]

Originally posted by: Rollo

It wasnt a failure? The 5800 sold horribly, and in fact was cancelled pretty fast.

I guess if you define "failure" as being second best in the world, it was a "failure" FS.
Ever occur to you that nVidia probably lost money on every unit due to low yields on 500MHz chips, higher layer PCB, elaborate copper cooling, and 1.6NS DDR2?

The fact of the matter is FSStrike, you will never in your life do anything close to the level of success the 5800U was.

You will never be second best in the world at anything, the company you work for will probably never be second best in the world at anything, hell, you and everyone you know would probably be lucky to 10,000th best in the world at anything.

Yet there you sit- flaming away at the engineering accomplishment of men 100X your better.

You want to talk "failure"? It's likely as close as your mirror even by standards 100X more lax than you're imposing on nVidia?

Or am I wrong and we'd all know your real name because you're the best at something and in some sort of position to cast stones at the second place effort?

Rollo you can never win. The 5800U was a flat our failure. If it wasnt a failure, it wouldnt of been cancelled and taken off the market so fast. If nVidia thinks its a failure, everyone thinks its a failure, why dont you? You love to lie to yourself, and I cant understand why?

And it wasnt hard for the 5800U to be second best in the world, it only had 1 serious competitor. If someone is in a 100yard dash, against 4 people, and only one of them is serious, you would assume they would come in 2nd. Who else did nVidia have to beat? XGI? Matrox? Common, its only real competitor was ATI. It came 2nd, and 2nd in a game of 2 is LAST (2/2 is LAST).

"Omg I am 1337 i came 2nd out of 2 yay mommy arnt I good".

No one even takes you seriously anymore, because you just post pathetic useless garbage and its all the exact same. "nVidia is amazing, I love my 5800, the 6800 is my daddy". It just goes on and on and on and on and on and on... You get the idea. Just stfu, no one gives a crap about your old 5800.

Just get it through your head, the 5800 was a FAILURE. End of Story.

 

[PrayForDeath]

Originally posted by: Rollo
Note I didn't seek out Bunnyfubbles thread about a card I know full well he loves and flame away at it- Bunnyfubbles came to my thread. I make it clear in this thread and many others I am all about the 5800U, should I have just said, "Thanks for sniping at me Bunny."? So why aren't you asking Bunnyfubbles why he came to my thread to flame me? Who's the prick? The guy who started the flaming? Or the guy who defended himself and his opinions? Making any sense to you here, Jiffy? Or do I need to break it down more? Maybe discuss some "cause and effect"? Maybe discuss some "Judge not lest ye be judged"?

You said Bunny started flaming, you call that flaming?:

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
actually the 5800U came first in the FX series. After we learned that the 5800 was so terrible, it wasn't a shocker than the 5600 and especially the 5200 were also sub par parts, which is why all but the 5200 recieved a quick change in the 5700 and the 5900 to actually give them competing performances.

Originally posted by: Rollo

It wasnt a failure? The 5800 sold horribly, and in fact was cancelled pretty fast.

I guess if you define "failure" as being second best in the world, it was a "failure" FS.
Ever occur to you that nVidia probably lost money on every unit due to low yields on 500MHz chips, higher layer PCB, elaborate copper cooling, and 1.6NS DDR2?

The fact of the matter is FSStrike, you will never in your life do anything close to the level of success the 5800U was.

You will never be second best in the world at anything, the company you work for will probably never be second best in the world at anything, hell, you and everyone you know would probably be lucky to 10,000th best in the world at anything.

Yet there you sit- flaming away at the engineering accomplishment of men 100X your better.

You want to talk "failure"? It's likely as close as your mirror even by standards 100X more lax than you're imposing on nVidia?

Or am I wrong and we'd all know your real name because you're the best at something and in some sort of position to cast stones at the second place effort?

Rollo, what is wrong with you? You're getting mad so easily today! If someone criticizes anything that doesn?t mean he can do something better than this thing, I shouldn?t be a GREAT painter to criticize a painting, I shouldn?t be a programmer to criticize a game, I shouldn?t be a car designer to criticize a car, and I shouldn?t be a video card maker to criticize a video card, especially if what I am saying is a simple fact! Whether you like it or not, the 5800 U WAS a failure, no matter what you saw or anyone says, IT IS A FACT! And that?s why it was cancelled and replaced by the solid 5900 line.
And you can never say FSStrike can?t do anything close to the level of success of the 5800U, because nobody can! Even the owner of nVidia corporation! Because a single guy can simply NEVER do such thing, this video card is a result of teamwork. You can?t compare a guy with a company! You can?t say a guy will never match a company!

 

[nRollo]

LOL

It's apparent some of you can't live with the idea anyone considers the 5800U a good card and will never give up trying to trash it.

This is about as pointless as arguing politics.

 

[jiffylube1024]

Originally posted by: Rollo
LOL

It's apparent some of you can't live with the idea anyone considers the 5800U a good card and will never give up trying to trash it.

This is about as pointless as arguing politics.

And Rollo wins another argument.

Nobody is "trashing" anything. They are saying that as the 5800U was a commercial failure. What is so wrong with this fact? It failed and NV had to rush NV35 out the door to keep themselves on track.

But of course whan anyone wins an argument with Rollo they don't actually win, and Rollo doesn't ever concede anything, he just talks about how "pointless" it all is. Definition of pointless: reading a Rollo thread. Jeez, why do I even bother anymore?

 

[reever]

Originally posted by: Rollo
This is about as pointless as arguing politics.

And yet you can't stop

 

[nRollo]

FSStrike:
You I'm going to respond to, because just like days gone by, you're especially silly:

Rollo you can never win.

Anyone that knows how to use "Search" can see how I can "never" win a debate with you, FSStrike. Try "5800" key word with FSStrike as the author and prepare to laugh.

The 5800U was a flat our failure.

It beat the card it was designed to compete against at many benchmarks.

If it wasnt a failure, it wouldnt of been cancelled and taken off the market so fast. If nVidia thinks its a failure, everyone thinks its a failure, why dont you?

Everyone thinks it's a failure? How about DHC, trying to buy one for his brother now? How about DaPunisher? How about all the guys at nVNews who love them, like mod Rage?

You love to lie to yourself, and I cant understand why?

I'm just not a doofus with some inane need to put down the 5800U, especially one that was using a bargain basement Ti 4200 on a bargain basement P4 1.4 when he started bashing equipment that was twice as good as he had?

And it wasnt hard for the 5800U to be second best in the world, it only had 1 serious competitor.

I've got news for you FS: gpus are a multimillion dollar inustry. There are many trying to compete, the fact that only one company does successfully doesn't diminish the accomplishment.
By your "logic" no one should have considered an ATI card for gaming until the 9700Pro, because they were always second, and hey, that sucks, right? Wrong Capt. Socrates. Plenty of us used and enjoyed our Rage MAXXs, VIVOs, and 8500s.

If someone is in a 100yard dash, against 4 people, and only one of them is serious, you would assume they would come in 2nd. Who else did nVidia have to beat? XGI? Matrox? Common, its only real competitor was ATI. It came 2nd, and 2nd in a game of 2 is LAST (2/2 is LAST).

Like I said, because the others aren't able to compete at their level, doesn't diminish the accomplishment. I'll try to put it into a simple analogy that you might be able to understand, ol buddy:
If all the other NFL quarterbacks except Brett Favre and Peyton Manning died in plane crashes tomorrow and had to be replaced by undrafted players who looked like schmucks in comparison, Favre wouldn't be a "failure" if he had had a slightly lower quarterback rating than Manning. He'd still be second best in the world at what he did, he'd still be at a level much higher than others are able to achieve.

Like I said FS, what do you do that you're so quick to judge the horrible "failure" of the 5800Us arguable second place? If you're a student, are you the valedictorian? If you're in the workplace, are you reknowned?

Or are you just another schmuck warming a chair somewhere, wallowing in mediocrity, ranting about the perceived shortcomings of the work of your betters? You still haven't answered the question.

"Omg I am 1337 i came 2nd out of 2 yay mommy arnt I good".

Nice grammar there, Big Chief.

No one even takes you seriously anymore, because you just post pathetic useless garbage and its all the exact same.

No one, huh? You speak for everyone now FS? Or are you just jumping on Jiffy's coattails and echoing his sentiment like a simpleton?

"nVidia is amazing, I love my 5800, the 6800 is my daddy".

I reiterate:
In the last few months, I have:
1. Posted 6800NU benches before anyone else had one
2. Posted Doom3 benchmarks on 2 popular cards before anyone else had Doom3
3. Posted Far Cry SM3 benchmarks weeks and weeks before the patch went public
4. Posted extensive comparisons of 5800U vs 6800NU vs 6800GT
5. Posted various 6800GT at NU speeds benchmarks by request to help people see if the Rivatuner pipeline unlocking would help
Etc.

What have YOU done for the community, FSStrike? Provide links please, I think you know I can easily link to all the above. How are you helping AT out, by coming here and trolling me? Whining about how you hate the 5800U? Good job- we needed that. :roll:

It just goes on and on and on and on and on and on... You get the idea. Just stfu, no one gives a crap about your old 5800.

1387 hits on this thread Big Chief. I doubt you can start a thread and get that many views. Apparently someone is interested in the 5800.

Just get it through your head, the 5800 was a FAILURE. End of Story.

LOL, no, I think it was a success. Uh oh- even after you said "End of story". I guess I just didn't believe your bizarre video card nazi attempts to convince me I didn't love playing with the 5800U while I had it. Go figure- must not have conveyed your argument very convincingly Big Chief. Better luck next time.

 

[reever]

How about all the guys at nVNews who love them, like mod Rage?

People on a strict strict nvidia fansite love Nvidia cards? I just can't believe it

 

[Creig]

(*sigh*) Well, that didn't last too long. At least it was nice and quiet around here for one week.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: reever

How about all the guys at nVNews who love them, like mod Rage?

People on a strict strict nvidia fansite love Nvidia cards? I just can't believe it

He said "everyone thinks they're a failure". I pointed out there are people here, and there, that like 5800Us, disproving the "everyone" part.

This is how you debate. You use logic to undermine your opponent's argument. When an opponent is foolish enough to speak in absolutes (e.g. "everyone" or "never") it's like shooting fish in a barrel and indicative of poor communication skills.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Creig
(*sigh*) Well, that didn't last too long. At least it was nice and quiet around here for one week.

No one is forcing you to read my threads Creig.

BTW- note how the start of all this was me having the audacity to agree with DHC in his statement

agreed with u on that one, i love that card too.

by saying something as controversial as

Thanks! The 5800U is one of the coolest cards of all time IMHO. In the ranks of the 3dfx V5 6000 and the ATI Rage Fury MAXX.

The current 6800Us come close on the "mucho macho grande" scale.

Yeah you couldn't expect anyone to let that horrible flamebait go unchallenged!

IMAGINE! Two guys agreeing they like a video card that wasn't the undisputed best in it's day! DHC and I are like some kind of video card war criminals that must be smacked down. :roll:

P.S. Note my contemptable use of "Thanks!" and "In My Humble Opinion"! Is there any end to my horrible sarcasm?!

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

GeFroce 6 = New GF6 line seems to be on par if not ahead of the new Radeons

.

GF6 = the suck trust me I got one. IQ is far superior in my 5950. Or don't trust me and have a gander at this thread and all it's linked threads. By macci ...maybe you heard of him number 1 in all 3 3dmarks in the world.

What AA? Helps if you have a tabbed broswer to see the diff by flashing back in forth/

6800

9800

 

[Creig]

I don't believe I singled any one person out in my above post, Rollo. I was simply commenting on how nice and quiet it was around here this past week and that now it, well... isn't anymore.