5870 X2 is 5970..?

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*kjm

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Originally posted by: Hauk
Well someone's got one. Just a pic but good stuff... 5870 X2 installed

I saw this picture about a week or two ago on another forum....... XtremeSystems/overclockers UK????? It was a demo AMD had at a show.
 

Jacen

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The 5970 is the 5870x2. I've seen OEM lists confirming the existence of a 5970 and recent rumor articles seem to peg that as Hemlock, the dual chip card. So it seems we may be in for a name change at this point unless ATI changes it before launch.

The card is 12" long for those curious.
 

nitromullet

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Originally posted by: Jacen
The 5970 is the 5870x2. I've seen OEM lists confirming the existence of a 5970 and recent rumor articles seem to peg that as Hemlock, the dual chip card. So it seems we may be in for a name change at this point unless ATI changes it before launch.

The card is 12" long for those curious.

How do the clocks/specs between 5970 and the 5870 compare?

I'll cut the the chase... would one be making a sacrifice using the 5970 with a 5870 in CrossfireX, or would it be the same as the 4870 + 4870 X2?

I'm far from committed to this configuration, but I haven't ruled it out either... I wonder if they dropped the 5870 X2 moniker because it's not two true 5870 cores, but something like two 5850 cores at 5870 clocks or vise versa.
 

bryanW1995

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actually, it's 11.66".

@nitromullet, that makes sense. I could see it as being 2 x 5870 cores but with lower clocks to keep heat/noise/etc under control.
 

Jacen

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Originally posted by: nitromullet
Originally posted by: Jacen
The 5970 is the 5870x2. I've seen OEM lists confirming the existence of a 5970 and recent rumor articles seem to peg that as Hemlock, the dual chip card. So it seems we may be in for a name change at this point unless ATI changes it before launch.

The card is 12" long for those curious.

How do the clocks/specs between 5970 and the 5870 compare?

I'll cut the the chase... would one be making a sacrifice using the 5970 with a 5870 in CrossfireX, or would it be the same as the 4870 + 4870 X2?

I'm far from committed to this configuration, but I haven't ruled it out either... I wonder if they dropped the 5870 X2 moniker because it's not two true 5870 cores, but something like two 5850 cores at 5870 clocks or vise versa.

The clocks weren't listed unfortunately. They entry was there, a mention of quarter four and the rest of the spreadsheet was empty for that part. I presume that means ATI hasn't finalized them yet.


Originally posted by: bryanW1995actually, it's 11.66".

No, its not.

 

bunnyfubbles

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Originally posted by: nitromullet
Originally posted by: Jacen
The 5970 is the 5870x2. I've seen OEM lists confirming the existence of a 5970 and recent rumor articles seem to peg that as Hemlock, the dual chip card. So it seems we may be in for a name change at this point unless ATI changes it before launch.

The card is 12" long for those curious.

How do the clocks/specs between 5970 and the 5870 compare?

I'll cut the the chase... would one be making a sacrifice using the 5970 with a 5870 in CrossfireX, or would it be the same as the 4870 + 4870 X2?

I'm far from committed to this configuration, but I haven't ruled it out either... I wonder if they dropped the 5870 X2 moniker because it's not two true 5870 cores, but something like two 5850 cores at 5870 clocks or vise versa.

I seriously doubt the GPUs would be cut down, if anything they'd just scale the clock rate and perhaps volts back a bit, and if they were cut down it would be preposterous to call it anything other than a 5950, however there isn't always a rhyme to the reason.

If they do go with 5970 instead of 5870 X2 it would most likely be for the sake of streamlining and simplification of the naming scheme, not unlike what nVidia did with the GTX295.
 

nicnas

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Originally posted by: MarcVenice
From what I know, the HD 5870X2 was supposed to come out in october, but they probably won't make it. Looks more like second/third week of november. My guess is, that they are using all Cypress-chips they got on HD 5870, instead of putting two of them on a HD 5870X2. Related would be the fact that if there aren't a lot of Cypress-chips, they can't really do a solid launch with the HD 5870X2, so perhaps they are stocking up on them first.

No need to hurry to launch this monster! The 5870 already beats the GTX295!
Better sell 2x5870 than 1x5970!
 

bryanW1995

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Originally posted by: Jacen
Originally posted by: nitromullet
Originally posted by: Jacen
The 5970 is the 5870x2. I've seen OEM lists confirming the existence of a 5970 and recent rumor articles seem to peg that as Hemlock, the dual chip card. So it seems we may be in for a name change at this point unless ATI changes it before launch.

The card is 12" long for those curious.

How do the clocks/specs between 5970 and the 5870 compare?

I'll cut the the chase... would one be making a sacrifice using the 5970 with a 5870 in CrossfireX, or would it be the same as the 4870 + 4870 X2?

I'm far from committed to this configuration, but I haven't ruled it out either... I wonder if they dropped the 5870 X2 moniker because it's not two true 5870 cores, but something like two 5850 cores at 5870 clocks or vise versa.

The clocks weren't listed unfortunately. They entry was there, a mention of quarter four and the rest of the spreadsheet was empty for that part. I presume that means ATI hasn't finalized them yet.


Originally posted by: bryanW1995actually, it's 11.66".

No, its not.

I did some searching, legit reviews says the 5870 is 11.1" and anandtech says that 5870 is 10.5". I can't find where I read the 11.66" for 5870x2; can you give us a link to your 12" theory?

edit, I did find this: http://www.lanthrax.com/news_details.asp?NewsID=01639 never heard of that site, however, and the statement is pretty generic so I'm not willing to hang my hat on it.
 

Jacen

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I can't really link to a in-person presentation by AMD that my connection was privy to. This was early last month however and at the time it was 12".
 
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