$5B ethanol subsidy in jeopardy

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Schadenfroh

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An all electric fleet IS a real solution.
Enjoy your increased dependency on China and their control of +95% of the rare earth supply required for green technology and electric vehicles.

At the end of the day, do you want to be even more dependent on China and less dependent on OPEC or keep things the way they are now?

In this country, I am not sure if we have the will to destroy so much of the environment to extract the rare earths that we need to go green.
 

dullard

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Hmmm... that's consistent with population growth.
So why has price skyrocketed?
Price of food is directly linked to the price of oil. If oil goes up by a factor of 4, food usually does too. Oil is used to produce the deisel to run the irrigation and tractors. Oil is used to make the fertilizer. Oil is used to harvest and dry and process the food. Oil is used to transport the food. Plus, food and oil are tied together in commodity indices so if investors want one, they often buy the other.

Food is expensive now since oil is expensive now.

Also remember, only the US does large scale ethanol prodcution from corn. So the rest of the world's corn supply grew much faster than population growth. Another massive demand though is the increased use of meat. Eatting one more pound of meat around the world means we have to produce many, many more pounds of grain. The rest of the world is not only eating more calories (more food) but also more meat (more grain per calorie).
 

EagleKeeper

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50 mile range cars is not a solution.

How about 300 miles?
http://www.teslamotors.com/models

Researching new battery tech benefits not only electrics, but also hybrids.

Now add built in solor cells to recharge on the go during the daytime and you have something that the public will accept at a higher price.

If a plane can fly on solar, why can not a car get a charge from solar.
Maybe not a full charge over the 300 miles; put enough to add another 100-150 range.
 
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