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EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: Qacer
Crap! I should have sent in my return later than expected. I got a W-2 from a company that I worked for in 2006. My last day was sometime in December 2006. I didn't realize that they paid me in 2007. I just got the W-2 ($60 in wages). So, I filled out a 1040x (?) and I'm getting ready to submit it. Then, Sharebuilder tells me that my 1099-DIV has been corrected. Good thing I didn't mail in the 1040x, yet.

Just out of curiosity, is it possible to send in another 1040x if you already sent one just a few days prior?
You will need to.

 

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Originally posted by: jds2006
I have a question about the e-file tax cycle. I'm looking at an e-file refund cycle chart right now, and it says that if I submit my refund between now and the 6th that I'll receive my refund through direct deposit by March 14th. Is this just an estimate and is it possible that it might come in later than the 14th?
E-File for direct deposit of the refund usually takes 2 Fridays

 

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Originally posted by: Caveman
3 questions:

1) At what point is a bank required to send out a 1099? I don't remember getting one...

I only had $6.85 total interest this year. Is that why? For this small amount, am I even supposed to report it?

2) I sold a house that I'd lived in for more than 5 years. Can I claim all of the seller paid closing costs such as the 6% realtors fee, builder's warranty, etc, or is that simply used to figure my cost basis for "income" on the sale of a house? My "out of pocket" expenses were about $2300, even though I actually had to ante up $13k as part of the deal.

3) Closing costs on a new home purchase were not paid out of pocket, but rather "rolled into the purchase price of the home". Can any of this be deducted or is it just "lost" as far as deductions are concerned?

1) Amounts under $1 are not required to be reported by you to the IRS.
The payee is required to send only if the amount is over $10

2-3) The costs apply to determining the cost basis for capital gains only ($250K/500K)

 

Exterous

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Gentlemen:
First, let me thank you guys for the hard work on this wonderful resource!

Second, I have some questions about deductions
1. I use my personal cell phone for work purposes. Communication between work and me via my phone accounts for more than 50% of my minutes/txt messages used (I had to up my minutes when this started). Can I deduct part or all of my cell phone bill? (I have kept the records in case)
2. Slightly after we started doing home theater and tv installations I purchased new speakers, tools, cables and receivers for personal use. The company offered little formal education and relied on personal experience to offer their service. I have been told that since hooking up my system was more training than I got from my job (and I did actually learn useful things for work) that I could deduct the purchase from my taxes as well. Is this true?
3. Work requires a certain attire which includes dress pants. I destroy about 5 pairs of dress pants a year on the job (nail in a crawl space here, snagged on a 2x4 there). Does this count as a Work Uniform deduction?

Hopefully these questions have not been asked before (I skimmed some of the pages looking for them) and if they have been I apologize.

Thanks again guys!
 

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Originally posted by: Exterous
Gentlemen:
First, let me thank you guys for the hard work on this wonderful resource!

Second, I have some questions about deductions
1. I use my personal cell phone for work purposes. Communication between work and me via my phone accounts for more than 50% of my minutes/txt messages used (I had to up my minutes when this started). Can I deduct part or all of my cell phone bill? (I have kept the records in case)
2. Slightly after we started doing home theater and tv installations I purchased new speakers, tools, cables and receivers for personal use. The company offered little formal education and relied on personal experience to offer their service. I have been told that since hooking up my system was more training than I got from my job (and I did actually learn useful things for work) that I could deduct the purchase from my taxes as well. Is this true?
3. Work requires a certain attire which includes dress pants. I destroy about 5 pairs of dress pants a year on the job (nail in a crawl space here, snagged on a 2x4 there). Does this count as a Work Uniform deduction?

Hopefully these questions have not been asked before (I skimmed some of the pages looking for them) and if they have been I apologize.

Thanks again guys!

1) You can deduct the cell phone service costs and the initial cost of the phone on the Form 2106 when you itemize using the Schedule A.

2) Same thing applies as above.

3) No - unless the work clothing is not suitable for general public use, it can not be deducted.

 

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First off: Kudos to you guys for all the help you give.

Situation: My mother in-law (not a US citizen) was hospitalized last year and my wife shouldered 90% of hospital bills/prescription drugs and continously support her mom for other medical expenses. The said help was given to her through my wife's sister.

Question: My wife's mom does not have SSN, so we cannot claim her as one of our dependents. Is there a way where we can claim at least a small part of the medical assistance my wife gives to her? Obtaining proofs (i.e., bank records, hospital bills, prescription medicine receipts, etc.), I'm sure won't be a problem.

What do you think? Thanks in advance.

Gary
 

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Originally posted by: pinoy
First off: Kudos to you guys for all the help you give.

Situation: My mother in-law (not a US citizen) was hospitalized last year and my wife shouldered 90% of hospital bills/prescription drugs and continously support her mom for other medical expenses. The said help was given to her through my wife's sister.

Question: My wife's mom does not have SSN, so we cannot claim her as one of our dependents. Is there a way where we can claim at least a small part of the medical assistance my wife gives to her? Obtaining proofs (i.e., bank records, hospital bills, prescription medicine receipts, etc.), I'm sure won't be a problem.

What do you think? Thanks in advance.

Gary

If your mother-in-law was actually living with you, you might have a justifiable case; citizen or not).

However, funneling the funds through another outside family member wouild never fly during an audit.

 

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1040-ES prepayment question

So I filed my 2007 taxes and ended up owing like $1600 federal (product of getting married in 2007). I did it with Turbotax and they said for 2008 I would need to prepay because I would prolly owe that much next year

I have since changed my exemptions to match reality, do I still need to prepay? What determines if I will get penalized for not prepaying?

I'd rather not prepay and just owe whatever I owe at the end
 

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I just finished calculating the taxes, and am looking at the bottom line review in Turbotax - comparison to previous year. The difference in taxable income is 35k, however, the income tax has jumped from 10k to 19k, and the self-employment tax has jumped from 1.3k to 6.6k!!! Doesn't look right to me: such a dramatic rise over the change of 35k. I was expecting to pay around 4-6k for the change, but TT is telling me it's going to be around 15k.

Does that seem right?

Thank you.
 

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Originally posted by: puffpio
1040-ES prepayment question

So I filed my 2007 taxes and ended up owing like $1600 federal (product of getting married in 2007). I did it with Turbotax and they said for 2008 I would need to prepay because I would prolly owe that much next year

I have since changed my exemptions to match reality, do I still need to prepay? What determines if I will get penalized for not prepaying?

I'd rather not prepay and just owe whatever I owe at the end

If you have changed your W4 to comensate for a bedmate, then do not worry about pre-pay.

Unless you owe at the end of the year over $1K, there is no penalty.

 

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Originally posted by: paulney
I just finished calculating the taxes, and am looking at the bottom line review in Turbotax - comparison to previous year. The difference in taxable income is 35k, however, the income tax has jumped from 10k to 19k, and the self-employment tax has jumped from 1.3k to 6.6k!!! Doesn't look right to me: such a dramatic rise over the change of 35k. I was expecting to pay around 4-6k for the change, but TT is telling me it's going to be around 15k.

Does that seem right?

Thank you.
The SE tax is roughly 15% of the income which is ~5K difference.
therefore that number seems correct.
Depending on your bracket 30% of 35K is $10K
10K + 5K = 15K

You had better start digging harder/deeper for your Schedule C expenses

 

Qacer

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My cousin came over yesterday and had a curious look on his face regarding his tax deductions. I told him we can search for the answer on Google, but we still had some questions. Here's the scenario:

If someone takes home $2700 every other week, is married with no children, and with no other deduction in mind, how much taxes would come out of his paycheck?

I was playing with this calculator: http://www.finance.cch.com/sohoApplets/Payroll.asp and it seems to give me a lower value on taxes. I just put in 7% for his 401k and zero all the other fields since Florida doesn't have any state taxes. With his gross pay of $2700, he sees about $1900 per paycheck.

Also, how can he maximize his tax deductions, so the IRS does not take more money than needed? His wife makes about $28k a year, and they're just bumming off my uncle's house, so they really don't have any mortgage payments. They still have to help out with some monthly bills, but that's about it. They don't have kids, so they can't take any deductions for that.
 

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Originally posted by: Qacer
My cousin came over yesterday and had a curious look on his face regarding his tax deductions. I told him we can search for the answer on Google, but we still had some questions. Here's the scenario:

If someone takes home $2700 every other week, is married with no children, and with no other deduction in mind, how much taxes would come out of his paycheck?

I was playing with this calculator: http://www.finance.cch.com/sohoApplets/Payroll.asp and it seems to give me a lower value on taxes. I just put in 7% for his 401k and zero all the other fields since Florida doesn't have any state taxes. With his gross pay of $2700, he sees about $1900 per paycheck.

Also, how can he maximize his tax deductions, so the IRS does not take more money than needed? His wife makes about $28k a year, and they're just bumming off my uncle's house, so they really don't have any mortgage payments. They still have to help out with some monthly bills, but that's about it. They don't have kids, so they can't take any deductions for that.

1) The amount of taxes depends on what the W4 was submitted at, plus the SS taxes.

2) Without a state income tax, and mortgage interest, they should be taking the standard deduction - it can be difficult to clear the 10K mark for a couple without them.
Without children, there are no credits, the only thing left are the IRAs, moving expenses and educational credits.

3) If they have a business, that is a different ballgame.

 

Ns1

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Hey EK-

check this out, re: qualified relative/qualified child

From NATP's weekly e-mail newsletter:

* * IRS Issues Guidance on Qualifying Relative Definition * *

The IRS has issued Notice 2008-05 clarifying the definition of a qualifying relative for purposes of claiming a dependency exemption. In general, to be considered a qualifying relative of a taxpayer, the individual cannot be a qualifying child of any other taxpayer. The IRS has clarified the definition of "any other taxpayer" (such as a parent) to exclude persons who are not required to file a tax return and do not file a tax return, or only do so to claim a refund of withheld tax.

This ruling is a major shift from what we have come to understand in the way of claiming dependency exemptions. One of the most common instances of this situation involves a taxpayer who lives with another person for the entire year and that person has a child who is not the taxpayer's child. Assume that the child's parent does not work and the taxpayer provides over half the support for both the child and the child's parent. This ruling clarifies that the taxpayer is eligible to file as head of household, claim the child tax credit, and the dependency exemption.

Prior to this clarification, it was widely understood that in this situation, the taxpayer was not entitled to the dependency exemption, the head of household filing status or the dependency exemption because the child was the qualifying child of the parent, and thus could not be the qualifying relative of the taxpayer.

Seems like this is for EIC purposes only and not for HOH

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Hey EK-

check this out, re: qualified relative/qualified child

From NATP's weekly e-mail newsletter:

* * IRS Issues Guidance on Qualifying Relative Definition * *

The IRS has issued Notice 2008-05 clarifying the definition of a qualifying relative for purposes of claiming a dependency exemption. In general, to be considered a qualifying relative of a taxpayer, the individual cannot be a qualifying child of any other taxpayer. The IRS has clarified the definition of "any other taxpayer" (such as a parent) to exclude persons who are not required to file a tax return and do not file a tax return, or only do so to claim a refund of withheld tax.

This ruling is a major shift from what we have come to understand in the way of claiming dependency exemptions. One of the most common instances of this situation involves a taxpayer who lives with another person for the entire year and that person has a child who is not the taxpayer's child. Assume that the child's parent does not work and the taxpayer provides over half the support for both the child and the child's parent. This ruling clarifies that the taxpayer is eligible to file as head of household, claim the child tax credit, and the dependency exemption.

Prior to this clarification, it was widely understood that in this situation, the taxpayer was not entitled to the dependency exemption, the head of household filing status or the dependency exemption because the child was the qualifying child of the parent, and thus could not be the qualifying relative of the taxpayer.

Seems like this is for EIC purposes only and not for HOH

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Correct - It does not change the filing status, but now clarified who can be declared as a dependant. They are now explicitly allowing SO & SO children. There is no clarification of mulitple SOs allowed.

This new ruling allows modification for the past 3 years via the 1040X if one chooses.



So now all the AT studs can reduce their taxes legally when they support their GF(s).
The studess' can also use this ruling if they desire

 
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Simple question here:

How many exemptions should I have on my w4?

I am single, not head of household, 1 job, no kids.

I put 1 for line A - "no one can claim me as dependent" and also a 1 for line B - "single / 1 job".

Is that correct? I told this to someone and they said for my status (single, no kids, 1 job, not HofHH) I should only have 1 exemption.

Thanks.
 

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Originally posted by: Schfifty Five
Simple question here:

How many exemptions should I have on my w4?

I am single, not head of household, 1 job, no kids.

I put 1 for line A - "no one can claim me as dependent" and also a 1 for line B - "single / 1 job".

Is that correct? I told this to someone and they said for my status (single, no kids, 1 job, not HofHH) I should only have 1 exemption.

Thanks.

With no deductions via the Schedule A, the total # on a W4 should be the number of people in the household when only one is working. Any higher will result in less taxes being withheld and the possibility of paying on 15 April the following year.

 

Qacer

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I was reading some more about taxes and found a question that I wanted a confirmation.

If you contribute money to a 401(k), do you fill out the W-4 using your salary minus your 401(k) contributions as the basis for your wage?
 

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Originally posted by: Qacer
I was reading some more about taxes and found a question that I wanted a confirmation.

If you contribute money to a 401(k), do you fill out the W-4 using your salary minus your 401(k) contributions as the basis for your wage?

Taxes are withheld based on the taxable income using a table.

The 401(K) reduces the taxable income, causing the lookup to report a lower number from the table.

The W4 withholding exemptions equivalently change the anticipated taxable income

 

V00DOO

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Sorry if this question has been asked before. One of my parent is on Disability and the other is on Social Security. Do they qualify for the $600 each stimulus check, if so how do they file since they have no income?
 

Linflas

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If I sold a stock that after fees and commissions I come up negative do I show it as the negative amount or just 0 on my return? In otherwords the stock cost me more to sell with the fees than it was worth in total.
 

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Originally posted by: Linflas
If I sold a stock that after fees and commissions I come up negative do I show it as the negative amount or just 0 on my return? In otherwords the stock cost me more to sell with the fees than it was worth in total.

You can take a loss and report it on the Schedule D.

The loss goes against your taxable income.

 

episodic

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Filing with free file. It says when I was done to print out form 8453-0L which I do - when I print it out the first 2 pages are stamped do not file, the next 2 pages are 2007 Federal Tax Return Filing Instructions, and the last page says US Individual Income Tax Declaration for an IRS e-file online return. Do I send ALL those pages with the money order to pay my taxes? The tax program says print it out and mail it in. It does not say to cherry pick through the docs. I'm clueless.


Finally, I just saw that you are supposed to mail the return within 48 hours of e-filing - gasp, it's been almost 2 weeks, I took a vacation since then. Is the really a problem? If so what do I do?

I owe over 1000 dollars. My wife picked up 3 money orders, 2 for 500, and the third for the balance - will this be a problem?

TIA
 

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Okay, so for 2007 my income went marginally above $70k so I can no longer deduct student loan interest. This hurts me, since I have no other deductions. Not married, no kids, don't own a home. My biggest expenses for '07 were rent, student loan payments, car payment, and gas. I also paid $2200 to repair some property damage, and had $600 in moving expenses (not relo, so not deductible). None of that's deductible. My employer allows me to work 1 day per week from home, and I maintain a home office to that end, but as I read the rules, I cannot deduct any of that because I still have an office at work. Is there anything I might be missing?

So far I owe $912 in Federal, $739 to State of Maryland, but DC is giving me a $426 credit. I will get the $600 refund, but I'm hoping there's some other deduction I may have overlooked?
 

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Originally posted by: episodic
Filing with free file. It says when I was done to print out form 8453-0L which I do - when I print it out the first 2 pages are stamped do not file, the next 2 pages are 2007 Federal Tax Return Filing Instructions, and the last page says US Individual Income Tax Declaration for an IRS e-file online return. Do I send ALL those pages with the money order to pay my taxes? The tax program says print it out and mail it in. It does not say to cherry pick through the docs. I'm clueless.


Finally, I just saw that you are supposed to mail the return within 48 hours of e-filing - gasp, it's been almost 2 weeks, I took a vacation since then. Is the really a problem? If so what do I do?

I owe over 1000 dollars. My wife picked up 3 money orders, 2 for 500, and the third for the balance - will this be a problem?

TIA
You are safe in mailing the 8453-OL in late.
You only need to mail in one copy to the address indicated on the Filing Instructions.

The Tax S/W seems to over compensate in printing out the extra pages.
There is no problem paying with multiple MO. Make sure that you put both SS#s on the MOs incase they get seperated from the form itself.

 
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