Yes. The nextgen games will have several tasks that can run on the iGPU, and it will be much faster than a normal CPU. Even Intel want to push OpenCL for games.So is there any reason to not release a similar Steamroller based version?
Yes. The nextgen games will have several tasks that can run on the iGPU, and it will be much faster than a normal CPU. Even Intel want to push OpenCL for games.So is there any reason to not release a similar Steamroller based version?
Ok, so what are the numbers(or what do you think they are) are for Piledriver after 3 more quarters?
But FM2+ still doesn't use Hypertransport links, so...
New "SteamrollerB" Core
I think it's safe to say FX will not die as a brand. Sooner or later they will launch FM2+/FM3? SR/EX based FX product. That will require at least 3 modules though so we won't be seeing such a product in near future. My guess is Q2/Q3 next year the 3M SR based FX will arrive on FM2+ platform (with iGPU of course).
Do you see any desktop roadmaps featuring actual Kaveri models yet. At least one? No?
There is your answer.
PS One module adds ~28-30mm^2 to the die. Accompanying logic would add maybe ~10mm^2 more (just my guess). The Kaveri 2M die is smaller than Richland.
Do you see any desktop roadmaps featuring actual Kaveri models yet. At least one? No?
There is your answer.
I can't find any AMD desktop roadmap that mentions beyond 2013 at all. But there are server and embedded roadmaps that go through 2014 that list Kaveri spinoffs but no 3M or 4M Steamroller non-APUs. Given that in the past AMD made the FX dies with the intention of being server dies, which followed closely in release time, this absence seems conspicuous.
From the comments of their rehired big core design leader, it's my guess that for various possible reasons (GF 28nm wafer supply, smaller than desired performance delta between piledriver and steamroller at higher TDPs, possibly GF abandoning anything 28nm but their low power node, etc.) AMD is waiting until 20nm Excavator to refresh the performance PC and 6+ thread server line.
Lack of or poor performing GF 28nm HPP, performance 28nm, could be a big part of all this. Anyone know of a chip in the wild made on that process. Only 28nm GF chips I know of are SLP, low power 28nm, Rockchip ARM SoCs.
Even though this seems likely.
I wish this doesn't happen.
If AMD waits till EX to refresh the FX line, then Intel will decimate AMD(already half way there).
AMD won't have high performing 20nm till Q4 2015 (My guess).
Till then Intel will have launched the successor to the alleged Haswell Refresh.
People will have completely forgotten of AMD making anything more than APUs and Graphic cards.
I am trying to put together a new build and as usual torn on the CPU decision.
I could wait till Q2 2014 for an FX steamroller, not later than that.
ps: I have said it before, Kaveri may not be manufactured at GloFo. Havent confirmed it yet, just a hunch.