60" Arrayed LED TV?

homercles337

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Which do you guys think is the best option? Sharp seems to be coming to the top when i search. Im more concerned with picture quality than price, but can be swayed by price.
 

frowertr

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Well I am a big fan of Panasonic Plasmas. Still consider them to be the superior tech on the market when considering price. Eventually the OLEDS will bring a halt to plasma tv production but not until the price comes down considerably.

If you want the best Panny has to offer today in 60" then you want the ZT60. The next step down would be the VT60 while the lowest I would go would be the ST60.
 

destrekor

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Well I am a big fan of Panasonic Plasmas. Still consider them to be the superior tech on the market when considering price. Eventually the OLEDS will bring a halt to plasma tv production but not until the price comes down considerably.

If you want the best Panny has to offer today in 60" then you want the ZT60. The next step down would be the VT60 while the lowest I would go would be the ST60.

And when price is factored in, the ST60 series is the best Plasma product out right now.

You will get a minimal bump in overall IQ going from ST60 to VT60, and then an even more miniscule bump in IQ when you jump to the ZT60 from the VT60 (according to reports I've read).
If you have the money, the VT and ZT series may be worthwhile - if I had a ton of money, I'd throw $1000 more for 1% better IQ. But I'm not loaded, so...

I do have a P50ST60, and... it's jaw-dropping beautiful. I haven't calibrated it yet - I've followed a "break in" procedure for roughly 100 hrs and have been careful about what content I've played thus far... and I also put in a professional calibrator's reference settings... which, in the end, is the jaw-dropping IQ I see.
It probably has room for calibration from there - and I'm contemplating if I want to have a professional calibrate it or not.
 

frowertr

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Destrekor hits the nail on the head. The VT60 would be the one I would get if I was looking for a new one but there is nothing wrong with the ST60 either. Both are equally beautiful TVs.

I have an older Panasonic Plasma P42S2 (2010 model) and had it calibrated. It blows the pants off of my friends/family's LCD/LED TV's. It isn't even a contest when comparing PQ.
 
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LED are the best way to do business locally globally
as LED is called light emmiting diode its picture quality is good and its sound is fabulous.
it is little bit costly than LCD but the quality is better than LCD.
and you can get a look off home theater effect.
 

frowertr

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LED are the best way to do business locally globally
as LED is called light emmiting diode its picture quality is good and its sound is fabulous.
it is little bit costly than LCD but the quality is better than LCD.
and you can get a look off home theater effect.

I remember when I had my first beer too.
 

BurnItDwn

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What kind of room is this going to be in?
Completely light controlled?
Partially light controlled?
Bright?

If it's a bright room, then LED lit LCD might make sense.
If it's partially light controlled, then I'd look at Plasma.
If it's a fully light controlled room, then projection will get you the most bang for the buck.
 

destrekor

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What kind of room is this going to be in?
Completely light controlled?
Partially light controlled?
Bright?

If it's a bright room, then LED lit LCD might make sense.
If it's partially light controlled, then I'd look at Plasma.
If it's a fully light controlled room, then projection will get you the most bang for the buck.

At the same rate - if it's fully light-controlled, a Plasma will provide the best possible picture. No ifs ands or buts.
Well, if money is no object, than the latest OLED displays should beat Plasmas.

It takes a fair bit of money for projectors to really come close to overall contrast and black levels. Well, they won't ever come close, but if light-control is good, reasonably close is achievable.

A quality projector is still my goal for a personal theater, and my new plasma would be the everyday viewer while the projector would provide a beast of a screen for movies and games.
 

BurnItDwn

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At the same rate - if it's fully light-controlled, a Plasma will provide the best possible picture. No ifs ands or buts.
Well, if money is no object, than the latest OLED displays should beat Plasmas.

It takes a fair bit of money for projectors to really come close to overall contrast and black levels. Well, they won't ever come close, but if light-control is good, reasonably close is achievable.

A quality projector is still my goal for a personal theater, and my new plasma would be the everyday viewer while the projector would provide a beast of a screen for movies and games.

I mentioned projector since getting 4 plasmas will leave you with a crappy bezel in the middle of the picture, and I don't think plasmas go above like 80 inches or so ...

if you want a 100 or 120 inch picture ... projection is really the only option .. (at least at reasonable price points. Quality is not as good as plasma, I will readily admit.)

For smaller sizes, Plasma is best...





Now, RT projection may actually beat the black levels and contrast of Plasma. (however not practical for most, we'll get into that later)

Multiple CRT projectors with Blending will give better contast/black level still.

CRT uses tons of power makes lots of heat, and likely the fans will be audible/noisy... multiple CRT multiplies the eproblem ... Also the CRT projectors take up a lot of space, often only practical in rooms with 9+ foot ceilings...

Setup like this takes tons of money and setup, but, is very very very difficult to beat
http://www.curtpalme.com/SpecialReport_ChicagoG90Stack_page1.shtm
 

destrekor

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I mentioned projector since getting 4 plasmas will leave you with a crappy bezel in the middle of the picture, and I don't think plasmas go above like 80 inches or so ...

if you want a 100 or 120 inch picture ... projection is really the only option .. (at least at reasonable price points. Quality is not as good as plasma, I will readily admit.)

For smaller sizes, Plasma is best...





Now, RT projection may actually beat the black levels and contrast of Plasma. (however not practical for most, we'll get into that later)

Multiple CRT projectors with Blending will give better contast/black level still.

CRT uses tons of power makes lots of heat, and likely the fans will be audible/noisy... multiple CRT multiplies the eproblem ... Also the CRT projectors take up a lot of space, often only practical in rooms with 9+ foot ceilings...

Setup like this takes tons of money and setup, but, is very very very difficult to beat
http://www.curtpalme.com/SpecialReport_ChicagoG90Stack_page1.shtm

OMG - For whatever reason, I was completely unaware anything CRT-related was even still around! I completely forgot about the three-lens projectors!

Nothing, absolutely nothing, beats the total contrast that CRT can achieve. There have been some technologies (that have come and gone) that would have rivaled CRT, but not even Plasma can achieve what CRT can. I think Plasma may have CRT beat on brightness, if so, barely... and of course LCD-tech destroys CRT for brightness.
But absolute black (0nit, perfectly 0) has only ever been achieved by CRT, iirc. OLED might have have an answer to that and be able to finally challenge CRT on all fronts, but thus far, everything has been scratching to be the runner-up.

That's the only reason I miss CRT TVs. SED TV's were supposed to be the flat-panel modern-day approach to CRT technology, but.... that went nowhere, sadly.


Now you've got me drooling and dreaming about the day I'll be able to have a dedicated theater room for a CRT projector. :awe:
 

BurnItDwn

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OMG - For whatever reason, I was completely unaware anything CRT-related was even still around! I completely forgot about the three-lens projectors!

Nothing, absolutely nothing, beats the total contrast that CRT can achieve. There have been some technologies (that have come and gone) that would have rivaled CRT, but not even Plasma can achieve what CRT can. I think Plasma may have CRT beat on brightness, if so, barely... and of course LCD-tech destroys CRT for brightness.
But absolute black (0nit, perfectly 0) has only ever been achieved by CRT, iirc. OLED might have have an answer to that and be able to finally challenge CRT on all fronts, but thus far, everything has been scratching to be the runner-up.

That's the only reason I miss CRT TVs. SED TV's were supposed to be the flat-panel modern-day approach to CRT technology, but.... that went nowhere, sadly.


Now you've got me drooling and dreaming about the day I'll be able to have a dedicated theater room for a CRT projector. :awe:

When I set up my dedicated theater room in the basement I really wanted to go with used CRT projection, but I just couldn't justify it given my constraints (7 foot 5 inch ceiling, room only 10 feet wide), so I went with DLP projection (much much less time/effort invested, and fit budget, and it allowed me to have my 2nd row set up the way I wanted) The contrast is not too bad, but black level kinda sucks (however, it's tolerable. ( Mitsubishi HC3800))


Anyhow, If/when I move to a bigger house, I will hopefully have the funds and time to set up a CRT projection based HT room (or maybe something with incrementally better black levels vs what I'm used to.)

http://www.curtpalme.com/

 
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