600w psu $60 shipped!

[Wag]

Yeah, but I suspect the nForce2 with onboard components is a much bigger powerdraw than the K7S5A I had running before. I also changed cases, and this one has more fans. I can't figure out what else could be causing my power-down.

I do have alot of stuff, including a beta-test HDTV card, which could be part of the problem too.

Process of elimination I guess- PS is just the next step.

 

[Gravity]

Maybe your powerdowns are due to heat? I got a vantec stealth 460w based on the assumption and reviews that said it was um, quiet. It's not very quiet though. I got 7 phans, 1 cd, 4 hard drives and a 64 mg agp card. When doom III comes out, I'll build again but the case and the PS will stay.

600 may be what it takes, who knows?

Gravity

 

[genjy]

Originally posted by: Wag
Me tempted- Antec 403x is powering down everytime I do something intensive on my 8RDA+. I guess I really need more than 400w for 3HDs, 2CD-ROMs, 4fans, various PCI cards, yadda yadda.

I have a 350w Raidmax PS, but my 8RDA+ pc doesn't shut down like yours with a 400w PS. It has an oc'ed Athlon 2100+ and a geforce4 ti4200. I use it to play graphics and cpu intensive games a lot, such as splinter cell and raven shield (a game which my pc really struggles to run). It also has 2 cdroms and 8 fans... hmmm.

 

[human2k]

Looks like crap to me!

 

[mindless1]

Hmmm.... rated at 115V 6A max input power, at ~70% efficiency like pretty much all SMPS, it can't even deliver a brief peak output of 483W. Do yourself a favor and put that $60 towards a Sparkle, Antec Truepower, etc, etc.

 

[JeffMD]

does it come with a packet of AS3 for the peltier heatsink youll need to attach?

 

[Samus]

im considering for my gaming rig. just added a pelty and it randomly shuts off when under heavy load... it has a 350-watt raidmax.

3hd's, cdrw, xp 2400+ oc'd from 2.0 to 2.26ghz, shitload of ram, gf4 4400 and a nforce2 board. also has lots of fans and case lighting. im pretty sure the psu is stressed out... even though the pelty's on a 5v rail and only draws 5a of current (of which 10 is avalible)

 

[KLineD]

i had an enermax 330w powering my 2100+ on a k7v-333 ultra platinum with a sb live, pctv pro, ti4200, 4 HDDs 3 CD-ROMs 4 80mm case fans without any problem. I upgraded to an antec 500w though simply cause an opportunity came up. So all of you thinking that 350 isn't enough think again.

 

[ericlp]

Originally posted by: KLineD
i had an enermax 330w powering my 2100+ on a k7v-333 ultra platinum with a sb live, pctv pro, ti4200, 4 HDDs 3 CD-ROMs 4 80mm case fans without any problem. I upgraded to an antec 500w though simply cause an opportunity came up. So all of you thinking that 350 isn't enough think again.

I too have an enermax 330W PS. Your comparing name brand to who knows "GRAB BAG" PS BOX. I still think the best way to determin if your PS is any good is the weight of it. I also have the 2100+/Ultra Platnum. ATI 9700 120 GIG HD/ 3 Case Fans / and one CDRW. When ever I try to over clock the 2100 up bump up the voltage the system dies. I mean the Power Supply doesn't have enough omph. I am thinking the 9700 pro is sucking up a lot power.

Time to go to pc power & cooling. That have the best PS. Altho, you pay for it. But in the ps game really the term "You get what your pay for" holds true.

 

[mindless1]

Best buy for a PSU right now seems to be a Fortron (Sparkle) 350W, $32 @ Newegg.. A PCPower&Cooling PSU "might" arguably be better in their >350W versions, but those carry a ~ $135+ price tag.

 

[Melectricus]

list from upgradesource.com, somewhere is a site with load broken down by rail which is more useful, I just can't find it, if someone has it they could post.

Personally I add up the high side wattages for devices in use while gaming remembering occasional cdrom spinup, 5w for usb mice, keyboard etc plus some factor for cc lights, leds and losses on speed controllers. This always gives a conservative connected load for supply size. Diversity will bring the acutal operating wattage down. Also add wattage to allow for future growth of stuff or assume you will grow out of your diversity factor on your initial calculation. Many others have stressed the importance of the 12v rail and stoutness of quality power supplies - listen to them.

FWIW, this computer has a connected wattage of 348w on an old 300w Antec, yet has been working fine for a year with excellent voltage regulation. A 400w pos Powmax died in a month and had wierd voltage swings when it worked- hence random reboots.

I hope this is of some help.

AMD Athlon 900MHz-1400MHz 50W-72W
AMD Athlon XP 1500-2100+ 60W-72W
AMD Athlon XP Thoroughbred 1700-2100+ - 50W-62W
AMD Athlon XP Thoroughbred 2200-3000+ - 62W-70W
Intel Pentium 4 1.4GHz-2.0GHz - 55W-75W
Intel Pentium 4 2.0GHz-2.8GHz 55W-68W
Intel Pentium 4 3.06GHz+ - 75W
Intel Celeron Socket 478 - 45W-60W
ATX Motherboard - 45W-65W
AGP video card - 40-80W
256MB RAM Module - 20W
512MB RAM Module - 35W
CD-Recorder - 20W-35W
CD-ROM Drive - 20W-30W
DVD-ROM Drive - 20W-25W
DVD-Recorder - 30W-40W
IDE Hard Drive - 15W-20W
SCSI Hard Drive - 15W-25W
15,000RPM SCSI Hard Drive - 35W
Floppy Drive - 8W
Network Card - 5W
Modem - 5W
Sound Card - 5W-10W
SCSI Controller Card - 20W
Firewire Controller Card - 30W-40W
USB 2.0 Controller Card - 5W-20W
Case Fan - 3W-5W
CPU Fan - 3W-6W

 

[Jaxidian]

I have a 400W powering my 2100 OC'd to 2.54GHz, 3x 120GB WDD JB's, CDR, DVDR, and TI4200 OC'd to greater than 4600 speeds as well as all of my fans, my equilizer, and 5 different USB devices. I think you just have a cruddy psu.

 

[dexvx]

Originally posted by: KevinH

Originally posted by: MisterMe
Ummm? Could anybody tell me if this would be enough for my Athlon XP2100, a 80 Gig hard drive, CDRW and four case fans?

You've GOT to be kidding me right? I have more things stuffed in my box than that and I'm running an overclocked Tbird off an Antec 300 Watt Powersupply.

Funny. My Dell Precision Workstation has a 300W PSU (They actually have the decency to rate @ something other than peak).

It runs Dual Xeons @ 2Ghz, 1GB DDR ECC Ram, 2x U320 15K RPM SCSI HDD's, SCSI CDRW, QuadroFX, and a couple case fans.

I dont know how many times you have to say it, but quality means more than quantity. I suppose you'd also buy those massive 2000W PMPO speakers @ eBay rather than having some 220W RMS Digitheatres.

 

[DSE]

it is strange, I'm running a 1.7Ghz P4 (socket 428) with 4 stick of RDRAM, 5 hdd, a CD-ROM, 4 80mm fans, a 120mm fan, AIW 8500DV, TBSC card, NIC, PCI IDE controller, all on a generic CompUSA 400w power supply. Rock solid for almost two years.

 

[Jenova314]

ok you know what, i honestly don't understand those who even ask whether 600W PSU's are enough for their 3HDDs, 2CD drives, XP 2000+, and a few case fans, as if that's a lot. are you all really serious about having to ask about them fans? they draw like 0.1A from the 12V rail, maybe 0.2A.

our server has been running on a Sparkle FSP400-60GN, for about a year now with no hickups. what's it actually running on? look for "Domain server (Takako)". before this sparkle PSU, we were using channel well's 450W, AKA antec's truepower-something or another; antec rebadges this one.

so yes 600W PSU's can run your 2HDDs, 2 CD drives, XP2000+, a "bunch of case fans," your fancy schmitzy flourescent lights, and then some.

Edit: ok it's late now so my mind's a little oozy... to the guy who actually asked whether the 600W PSU would work for your system, sorry i was just PMS'ing, don't mind me...

Edit2: and i agree with Jaxidian, quality is much more important than quantity. also, don't always go by the current ratings of the rails. our 400W's 12V rail (arguably the most important) is only rated at 15A according to newegg. .ik

 

[LilHen]

great info Melectricus

 

[Melectricus]

I didn't mean to imply in my previous post bigger is better. 400w/430w is usually enough for what anyone can throw at a desktop IMHO - if you use a good psu. 500 to 600w ratings are usually for server chasis, and if your rig is in server class you shouldn't be looking at cheap psu's.

Not everything works simultaneously, not everything that does work draws max wattage simultaneously, max wattages are conservative, peak surges are better absorbed by better psu's, all important voltage regulation tends to be more stable over varying loads in better psu's.

sorry, had to mind dump, It's just that I really believe you shouldn't scrimp on psu's no matter how much money you have into a rig. I would personally use $ in a lower wattage good psu than the same $ into a high wattage psu of questionable quality. And by questionable I mean if you can't confirm it is really good by reviews or other 'informed' users, then I would pass.

 

[Okcloo]

Noob question:

How do I hook up 6 case fans, 3 hdd, 2 cd-roms, and some other stuff with 3 power cables from the psu?
Flame on, but do provide an answer.

 

[mindless1]

Okcloo,
get some Y-adapters from someplace like SVC