64-bit linux anyone?

[jhu]

anyone running one of these? i just installed a sempron 64 (that was a big hassle) and was wondering if it's really worth the trouble. my guess is "probably not" but the bragging rights may yet win out

 

[n0cmonkey]

It depends. Win32 Codecs, flash, and closed source stuff might not work, but a lot of OSS stuff should.

 

[drag]

Most everything should work except for restricted codecs (wmv, quicktime, etc) and flash. Most closed source software (quake3, doom3 for isntance) won't have 64bit versions aviable.

Most everything that is open source should work.

 

[silverpig]

Semprons are 64 bit now? I thought they weren't... guess I haven't kept up on my hardware lately

I've got 64 bit gentoo running on an A64. It works great. No win32codecs, and no flash is all I notice really. I don't game in it either so it's not an issue. All of my hardware works, and the install was as easy as a 32 bit install.

 

[drag]

I am thinking that you could probably install a 32bit version of VLC with it's supporting libraries to be able to veiw content that is only aviable thru win32-only codecs. I don't have a AMD64 box right now though. (installed fedora 64bit for my brother and that worked out great so far.)

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: silverpig
Semprons are 64 bit now? I thought they weren't... guess I haven't kept up on my hardware lately

There are a couple of socket 754 sempron64s.

 

[xtknight]

OPENSUSE 10.0 64-bit with Athlon 64 ROCKS!!! You should really try it.

You just need one CD (sort of). Get boot.iso from the opensuse10 inst-source/boot directory. It's a minimal boot system. Then just type in the ftp in the install like this:

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="ftp://suse.mirrors.tds.net/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source/"><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="ftp://suse.mirrors.tds.net/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source/">ftp://suse.mirrors.tds.net/pub/op.........ution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source/</a></a>

One problem is you have to enter that every time you want to add/remove apps, but you could save a few CDs that way if you want. Worked flawlessly for me. There are CDs available on that ftp too (DVDs somewhere else possibly). Make sure 64-bit is selected at the bottom right of the starting install screen (might be in "other options").

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="ftp://suse.mirrors.tds.net/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/iso/"><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="ftp://suse.mirrors.tds.net/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/iso/">ftp://suse.mirrors.tds.net/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/iso/</a></a>

I had Fedora Core 4 64-bit installed, and Windows 32-bit and 64-bit. SUSE automatically configured GRUB for me, and it left FC4 intact, and both my Windows's too via a chainloader. I was thoroughly impressed.

My sound worked first time, and both my onboard network devices (CK804 and Marvell) were detected. I love it so far. So many options. I just can't get video4linux to work. I had my TV Wonder USB 2.0 work automatically before in Fedora 2 32-bit, but nothing other than that. Anyone know how to get it working? My device isn't recognized as a TV device in the YaST hardware options, however I see it in the USB devices list.

 

[timswim78]

Originally posted by: xtknight
OPENSUSE 10.0 64-bit with Athlon 64 ROCKS!!! You should really try it.

You just need one CD (sort of). Get boot.iso from the opensuse10 inst-source/boot directory. It's a minimal boot system. Then just type in the ftp in the install like this:

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="ftp://suse.mirrors.tds.net/pub/opensuse...tribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source/"><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="ftp://suse.mirrors.tds.net/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source/"><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="ftp://suse.mirrors.tds.net/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source/">ftp://suse.mirrors.tds.net/pub............n/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source/</a></a></a>

One problem is you have to enter that every time you want to add/remove apps, but you could save a few CDs that way if you want. Worked flawlessly for me. There are CDs available on that ftp too (DVDs somewhere else possibly). Make sure 64-bit is selected at the bottom right of the starting install screen (might be in "other options").

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="ftp://suse.mirrors.tds.net/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/iso/"><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="ftp://suse.mirrors.tds.net/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/iso/"><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="ftp://suse.mirrors.tds.net/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/iso/">ftp://suse.mirrors.tds.net/pub/opensuse...tribution/SL-10.0-OSS/iso/</a></a></a>

I had Fedora Core 4 64-bit installed, and Windows 32-bit and 64-bit. SUSE automatically configured GRUB for me, and it left FC4 intact, and both my Windows's too via a chainloader. I was thoroughly impressed.

My sound worked first time, and both my onboard network devices (CK804 and Marvell) were detected. I love it so far. So many options. I just can't get video4linux to work. I had my TV Wonder USB 2.0 work automatically before in Fedora 2 32-bit, but nothing other than that. Anyone know how to get it working? My device isn't recognized as a TV device in the YaST hardware options, however I see it in the USB devices list.

That's what I am running on my SFF Athlon 64. It is the best of the three x64 distro's that I have tried. Fedora, Suse, and Ubuntu

 

[Red and black]

NetBSD/amd64 works fine, though driver support for nvidia chipsets is poor because nvidia is evil. I'm happily running NetBSD/amd64 on an Asus A8V-D.

 

[Xyo II]

Originally posted by: drag
Most everything should work except for restricted codecs (wmv, quicktime, etc) and flash. Most closed source software (quake3, doom3 for isntance) won't have 64bit versions aviable.

Most everything that is open source should work.

wait..... so 64 bit wont work w/ games?? i thought that the 64 bit could still work w/ 32 bit applications?

 

[pac1085]

You can run them but they won't take advantage of the CPU (you probably wouldnt notice even if they did)

 

[Sunner]

Originally posted by: Red and black
NetBSD/amd64 works fine, though driver support for nvidia chipsets is poor because nvidia is evil. I'm happily running NetBSD/amd64 on an Asus A8V-D.

Haven't you heard? BSD is dying.

 

[drag]

Originally posted by: Einstein Element

Originally posted by: drag
Most everything should work except for restricted codecs (wmv, quicktime, etc) and flash. Most closed source software (quake3, doom3 for isntance) won't have 64bit versions aviable.

Most everything that is open source should work.

wait..... so 64 bit wont work w/ games?? i thought that the 64 bit could still work w/ 32 bit applications?

They'll still work, I believe. It's just that they won't be 64bit.
If you have to much 32bit stuff on your computer then you might as well be running a 32bit OS

 

[rmrf]

Originally posted by: drag

Originally posted by: Einstein Element

Originally posted by: drag
Most everything should work except for restricted codecs (wmv, quicktime, etc) and flash. Most closed source software (quake3, doom3 for isntance) won't have 64bit versions aviable.

Most everything that is open source should work.

wait..... so 64 bit wont work w/ games?? i thought that the 64 bit could still work w/ 32 bit applications?

They'll still work, I believe. It's just that they won't be 64bit.
If you have to much 32bit stuff on your computer then you might as well be running a 32bit OS

and you can run 32bit programs on a 64bit platform, but you will have to have both libraries installed, and it is a pain. afaik, the only game that will run natively on 64bit linux is UT2K4, and you really aren't gonna get THAT much of a performance gain by going 64bit.

but it is up to you.

 

[jhu]

Originally posted by: Red and black
NetBSD/amd64 works fine, though driver support for nvidia chipsets is poor because nvidia is evil. I'm happily running NetBSD/amd64 on an Asus A8V-D.

damn, almost forgot about that one. ok, that's what i'm going to install. it's mostly for povray-related thnigs.

 

[drag]

Originally posted by: jhu

Originally posted by: Red and black
NetBSD/amd64 works fine, though driver support for nvidia chipsets is poor because nvidia is evil. I'm happily running NetBSD/amd64 on an Asus A8V-D.

damn, almost forgot about that one. ok, that's what i'm going to install. it's mostly for povray-related thnigs.

Povray!

Ever looked at Yafray? http://www.yafray.org/? (it parrellels pretty easily for running on multiple cpus and even computers, I think) Blender now supports this ray renderer pretty closely...

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Red and black
NetBSD/amd64 works fine, though driver support for nvidia chipsets is poor because nvidia is evil. I'm happily running NetBSD/amd64 on an Asus A8V-D.

OpenBSD/amd64's nVidia support is increasing, despite nVidia's evilness.

 

[jhu]

ok, now i have netbsd/amd64 installed. i now feel a little geekier.

 

[Desireisis]

Slamd 64 slackware derivative could be one possible option

 

[jhu]

Originally posted by: drag

Originally posted by: jhu

Originally posted by: Red and black
NetBSD/amd64 works fine, though driver support for nvidia chipsets is poor because nvidia is evil. I'm happily running NetBSD/amd64 on an Asus A8V-D.

damn, almost forgot about that one. ok, that's what i'm going to install. it's mostly for povray-related thnigs.

Povray!

Ever looked at Yafray? http://www.yafray.org/? (it parrellels pretty easily for running on multiple cpus and even computers, I think) Blender now supports this ray renderer pretty closely...

yes, i've looked into yafray. i like the scripting features of povray better. blender also has support for povray (through python scripts), but i don't really use blender.

 

[jhu]

i finally settled down with netbsd/amd64 2.0.2 and in my most unscientific benchmarking using povray 3.5c, my 1.6ghz sempron ends up faster than the 2.8ghz p4 at work by about 7 minutes. well, i'm impressed.

 

[jhu]

got debian up and running now. running 32-bit binaries on this thing is a bit of a chore though. when's open office going to be 64-bit native? at least quake3 runs a bit faster

 

[thehstrybean]

Fedora Core 4 x86_64....
/thread

 

[corinthos]

I got a Sempron 2800+ 64 and haven't been able to make use of the 64-bit part yet... I'm using the box as an HTPC and think I may need to wait for 64-bit drivers for my tv tuner card before I can make the switch over.

 

[SUOrangeman]

Gentoo 2005.1 x86_64 from stage 1 here. Other than the binary version of Azureus, and possibly, Flash 7, I suspect everything else is completely 64-bit (nVidia video drivers with TwinView, Envy 24HT sound, USB input devices, etc.). No complaints here!

-SUO