The fact that a 5900x is outperformed by a 2700x in average frame rates and a 3600x outright tells me there are some major issues to work out on the AMD CPU side.
Great point. This is what the TLB penalty looks like in AT's Zen 3 deep dive (by Andrei Frumusanu):I think I read that Zen 3 actually only gets the minimum latency out of the L3 with a set size of 8 MB or less since it overflows the TLB at that size. If they enhance the TLB (very likely), then average L3 latency could go down significantly, even with no L3 size increase.
There's actually no Matrix demo for PC (yet?). The only thing that exists is project data of the city than can be compiled (which obviously wouldn't be optimized beyond anything UE5 offers at stock).A single threaded tech demo in 2022? That seems unlikely to be the future of anything.
Those numbers do look weird but it also also be Single CCD vs dual CCD at least with the Zen 3 parts.
There are sometimes when the 5600X and 5800X will out perform the 5900X and 5950X due to the latency in single vs Dual CCD aslong as your workload is not bottlenecked by core count.
How do you trust a picture of a Russian (??) benchmark ? Its not a link to somewhere on the web, so it may not be real ?? I am not accusing, just saying what if .The CCX/CCD penalty in a 2700x is way worse than on a 5900X. There really shouldn't be any workload where a 2700x outperforms a 5900x and this holds especially true for gaming. There is a major issue going on on the AMD CPU side. It looks like have multiple CCDs is making it worse, but there is a bigger underlying issue here.
There's actually no Matrix demo for PC (yet?). The only thing that exists is project data of the city than can be compiled (which obviously wouldn't be optimized beyond anything UE5 offers at stock).
How do you trust a picture of a Russian (??) benchmark ? Its not a link to somewhere on the web, so it may not be real ?? I am not accusing, just saying what if .
The CCX/CCD penalty in a 2700x is way worse than on a 5900X. There really shouldn't be any workload where a 2700x outperforms a 5900x and this holds especially true for gaming. There is a major issue going on on the AMD CPU side. It looks like have multiple CCDs is making it worse, but there is a bigger underlying issue here.
That is why I specifically said in the Zen 3 line and didn't reference the 2700X. And this is still an optimized PC tech demo so I wouldn't take those results as gospel.
Nor anything involving any Matrix characters.The CitySample part is the same thing as what you get on the consoles. You just don't get the chase scene.
What else can we do? Not like you are gonna use your 3080 Ti with your farm of CPUs to bench this tech demoHow do you trust a picture of a Russian (??) benchmark ?
The fact that a 5900x is outperformed by a 2700x in average frame rates and a 3600x outright tells me there are some major issues to work out on the AMD CPU side.
I'm pleasantly surprised there even is a forthcoming review... Anandtech isn't what it used to be these days.So due to Covid the Anand Tech Review of 5800X3D was postponed.
"Unfortunately we're not going to have a Ryzen 7 5800X3D review out for today. Despite herculean efforts from @gavbon86 to get the necessary testing done in time, COVID has won this round. We'll have something next week."
Plenty of good reviews already.So due to Covid the Anand Tech Review of 5800X3D was postponed.
"Unfortunately we're not going to have a Ryzen 7 5800X3D review out for today. Despite herculean efforts from @gavbon86 to get the necessary testing done in time, COVID has won this round. We'll have something next week."
I can't wait for AnandTech SPEC06/2017 numbers that are not done at ISO speed.Plenty of good reviews already.
4, if Semiaccurate is to be believed.What was the increase in L3 cycles over the regular 5800X? 3 some cycles?
On the latency front the L3 cache on the -3D is about 4 cycles slower than the non-3D parts, something AMD went to very tortured lengths to try and minimize in the briefings.
hmm he seems to write very much like the person behind userbenchmark4, if Semiaccurate is to be believed.
AMD’s Ryzen 5800X3D is too flawed for consumer use
Today AMD releases their long awaited consumer 3D V-Cache CPU called the Ryzen 5800X3D and it is not as good as expected.semiaccurate.com
He seems annoyed that AMD released this as a product.
He's upset because AMD didn't give him a free 5800X3D sample.