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Anyway, its does not exactly matter the wattage, but 28 cores compared to 64 at the same wattage ? Or worse. I would have to go look it up, but Intel is offering half the cores with half the performance per core for the same TDP.
@Markfw I think that is kind of the point. Intel can *attempt* to claim bragging rights on the desktop, however Genoa is shipping. No joke. Word "on the street" is that more Zen 4 chips have been shipped than Sapphire Rapids, albeit with far fewer customers.
I feel like a certain percentage of people here are trying to compare Milan or Ryzen 5000 to Intel Sapphire Rapids or Alder Lake and they are forgetting the big picture: They are comparing very old AMD chips (ignoring Milan-X, which already beats Intel current chips) vs. Intel current, and AMD is not only releasing a new chip soon, but they are also doing so on a node shrink, and they had two years to do it. The performance gains will be much larger from Zen 3 -> Zen 4 vs. Skylake to Alder Lake. To be clear, Intel 14+eXX < TSMC N7 -> Custom TSMC N5P. Intel has technically caught up with TSMC N7 DUV (we hope?). AMD's current mobile chips are on a better node, and desktop/server chips are on an even better one. Milan-X alone is an absolute headache for Intel. Genoa?
Shoot, under the right circumstances (ahem), one could argue the gains from Zen 2 -> Zen 3...ON THE SAME NODE...were larger than Skylake to Alder Lake.