1 6800gt is almost always faster than 2 6600gt. Instead of spending extra money on SLI, get a better single card.
Originally posted by: munky
1 6800gt is almost always faster than 2 6600gt. Instead of spending extra money on SLI, get a better single card.
Originally posted by: Waylay00
Well Rollo, you basically just defeated yourself...If one 6800GT is the same as two 6600GT's, why not just get one 6800GT. Then you don't have to worry about heat issues, power issues, noise, and you also have an extra PCIe slot to put that other 6800GT in later.
Don't need to- I own two PCIE 6600GT that I have played with and benched extensively.Originally posted by: ca1n
ok they you go on out and get you self 2 6600 and turn on the aa and af and run the valve stress test and watch.
Actually, I kept my 6600GT SLI because it's a damn nice setup, and I bought two 256MB 6800NUs to run in SLI in that computer as well.Your next move will be searching the forums for a used 6800gt and selling your 6600gts.
I agree about the reviews, that's why I have 6600GT SLI and 6800NU SLI.One thing buddy is reviews are not allways as they are cranked up to be. But since you have all the FACTs why are you asking the still >? go and buy its.
At that point in time, most likely.Now I owned them and actually just sold then yesterday here is my bench of over 15,000
which is better than they get in reviews.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3739772
Now that shows I had everything set up right.
You averaged 90fps and could feel the "lack of power"??? I see. To get a 6600GT SLI rig to run CSS or HL2 as fast as a 6800GT, you have to run at 12X10 2X8X instead of 12X10 4X8X. If that 2X AA, at that one game, means the 6600GT SLI "sucks" to you...... :roll:Now playing my favorite games (css) on a single gt @1280 res with 4xaa 8xaf I get 130fps
The 2 6600gts I got 90fps
and when in the game you just feel the lack of power.
I have a X800XT PE as well. Actually for a few more minutes I do, sold it to Keysplayr2003. XT PEs are nice gaming cards, but have nothing to do with 6800s and 6600s?I do own a x850 xt pe and I can show you equal amount of reviews that show you the sli is sheet but I think I have spent enough time with just this reply.
No, I don't trust you because:trust me? Been their done that.
Originally posted by: Waylay00
Well Rollo, you basically just defeated yourself...If one 6800GT is the same as two 6600GT's, why not just get one 6800GT. Then you don't have to worry about heat issues, power issues, noise, and you also have an extra PCIe slot to put that other 6800GT in later.
Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: munky
1 6800gt is almost always faster than 2 6600gt. Instead of spending extra money on SLI, get a better single card.
On games that support/use SLI, they are too close to call at usable settings.
My links to those five games just showed that, do you have some links to benchmarks that prove your point?
:roll: If you had bothered to read your own link, it said SLI doesn't work on CoD? So it comparing 6600GT to 6800GT?Originally posted by: munky
Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: munky
1 6800gt is almost always faster than 2 6600gt. Instead of spending extra money on SLI, get a better single card.
On games that support/use SLI, they are too close to call at usable settings.
My links to those five games just showed that, do you have some links to benchmarks that prove your point?
OK, Rollo, you asked for it. 2x 6600gt vs. 1x 6800gt:http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/gf6800u-sli_18.html
LOL-bullshi*. No one plays Doom 3 at 16X AF, because a. nVidia cards don't do it well enough b. ATI cards don't play that game well enough. Even so, the 6600GT SLI differences are all paper differences. Can you tell the difference in a 40 and 46 fps average? BTW- in my own 6600GT SLI benches I got 48fps at 12X10 4X8X at Doom3. So there's your big difference- the 6800GT can play that setting at 16X AF, and the 6600GT SLI is a little faster at 8X AF. Heartbreaker loss there- 1 AF level. :roll:
More bullshi*- the 6600GT SLI and 6800GT are 1-2fps different and you point it out as proof the 6800GT is faster? Why? Do you have the magic eyes that can see the 1-2 fps difference?
This is a waste of my time- you're proving my point, not yours? There are no significant differences in the HL2 benchmarks you pointed out on that page, the 6600GT SLI wins 9/12? The ones it loses are by less than 2fps?
Let me know when you're ready for round 2.
Originally posted by: ca1n
well sorry but anyone who buys 2 6600gts I hope all the do all day is run 2003 and thats it. FOr any hardcore gamer go with the single gt that clocks to ultra and you will be happy.mark my words
Originally posted by: Rollo
:roll: If you had bothered to read your own link, it said SLI doesn't work on CoD? So it comparing 6600GT to 6800GT?Originally posted by: munky
Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: munky
1 6800gt is almost always faster than 2 6600gt. Instead of spending extra money on SLI, get a better single card.
On games that support/use SLI, they are too close to call at usable settings.
My links to those five games just showed that, do you have some links to benchmarks that prove your point?
OK, Rollo, you asked for it. 2x 6600gt vs. 1x 6800gt:http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/gf6800u-sli_18.html
LOL-bullshit. No one plays Doom 3 at 16X AF, because a. nVidia cards don't do it well enough b. ATI cards don't play that game well enough. Even so, the 6600GT SLI differences are all paper differences. Can you tell the difference in a 40 and 46 fps average? BTW- in my own 660GT SLI benches I got 48fps at 12X10 4X8X at Doom3. So there's your big difference- the 6800GT can play that setting at 16X AF, and the 6600GT SLI is a little faster at 8X AF. Heartbreaker loss there- 1 AF level. :roll:
More bullshit- the 6600GT SLI and 6800GT are 1-2fps different and you point it out as proof the 6800GT is faster? Why? Do you have the magic eyes that can see the 1-2 fps difference?
This is a waste of my time- you're proving my point, not yours? There are no significant differences in the HL2 benchmarks you pointed out on that page, the 6600GT SLI wins 9/12? The ones it loses are by less than 2fps?
Why do you point out benchmarks that prove my point, not yours?!?! I thank you though, I'll use these from now on arguing on behalf of SLI. :roll:
Let me know when you're ready for round 2.
Why? So you can prove my points for me again? You do realize I said 6600GT SLI is about as good as a 6800GT and you were trying to prove me wrong? LOL- I look at your first six-seven links and you're proving me right except for the games where SLI doesn't work?
Here's your round two task if you want to do this sort of thing like I do Munky-
When someone says something about card performance I don't agree with, I show a link to the benchmarks that lead me to believe I'm right, and I post those benchmarks right below the links. Example given:
Munkys Hilarious HalfLife 2 Link
D1_canals 4X16X
10X7 6600SLI= 64fps 6800GT=63fps
12X10 6600SLI=41 6800GT=38fps
16X12 6600SLI=34 6800GT=34fps
d3_C17
10X7 6600SLI= 56fps 6800GT=58fps
12X10 6600SLI=52fps 6800GT=55fps
16X12 6600SLI=40fps 6800GT=34fps
Then people can see that I, Rollo, am right about 6600GT SLI performing as well as a 6800GT at HL2, and that you, Munky, weren't too smart to post those particular benches and help me win my argument. (especially after saying "You asked for it!" LOL)
So there's you're task Munky- sift through all those benches you provided look for ones that prove your point, not mine. Hint- IMO mid 40s is the ground level for a benchmark to be relevant at all. Saying this card has 10 fps and the other has 12fps is meaningless, as are 5fps differences when you're already over 50fps.
Thank you for adding those benches to my repetoire Munky! No one will ever post a "6800GT outperforms 6600GT SLI again without seeing these, thanks to you buddy! :beer:
Originally posted by: Rollo
:roll: If you had bothered to read your own link, it said SLI doesn't work on CoD? So it comparing 6600GT to 6800GT?Originally posted by: munky
Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: munky
1 6800gt is almost always faster than 2 6600gt. Instead of spending extra money on SLI, get a better single card.
On games that support/use SLI, they are too close to call at usable settings.
My links to those five games just showed that, do you have some links to benchmarks that prove your point?
OK, Rollo, you asked for it. 2x 6600gt vs. 1x 6800gt:http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/gf6800u-sli_18.html
LOL-bullshi*. No one plays Doom 3 at 16X AF, because a. nVidia cards don't do it well enough b. ATI cards don't play that game well enough. Even so, the 6600GT SLI differences are all paper differences. Can you tell the difference in a 40 and 46 fps average? BTW- in my own 6600GT SLI benches I got 48fps at 12X10 4X8X at Doom3. So there's your big difference- the 6800GT can play that setting at 16X AF, and the 6600GT SLI is a little faster at 8X AF. Heartbreaker loss there- 1 AF level. :roll:
More bullshi*- the 6600GT SLI and 6800GT are 1-2fps different and you point it out as proof the 6800GT is faster? Why? Do you have the magic eyes that can see the 1-2 fps difference?
This is a waste of my time- you're proving my point, not yours? There are no significant differences in the HL2 benchmarks you pointed out on that page, the 6600GT SLI wins 9/12? The ones it loses are by less than 2fps?
Why do you point out benchmarks that prove my point, not yours?!?! I thank you though, I'll use these from now on arguing on behalf of SLI. :roll:
Let me know when you're ready for round 2.
Why? So you can prove my points for me again? You do realize I said 6600GT SLI is about as good as a 6800GT and you were trying to prove me wrong? LOL- I look at your first six-seven links and you're proving me right except for the games where SLI doesn't work?
Here's your round two task if you want to do this sort of thing like I do Munky-
When someone says something about card performance I don't agree with, I show a link to the benchmarks that lead me to believe I'm right, and I post those benchmarks right below the links. Example given:
Munkys Hilarious HalfLife 2 Link
D1_canals 4X16X
10X7 6600SLI= 64fps 6800GT=63fps
12X10 6600SLI=41 6800GT=38fps
16X12 6600SLI=34 6800GT=34fps
d3_C17
10X7 6600SLI= 56fps 6800GT=58fps
12X10 6600SLI=52fps 6800GT=55fps
16X12 6600SLI=40fps 6800GT=34fps
Then people can see that I, Rollo, am right about 6600GT SLI performing as well as a 6800GT at HL2, and that you, Munky, weren't too smart to post those particular benches and help me win my argument. (especially after saying "You asked for it!" LOL)
So there's your task Munky- sift through all those benches you provided look for ones that prove your point, not mine. Hint- IMO mid 40s is the ground level for a benchmark to be relevant at all. Saying this card has 10 fps and the other has 12fps is meaningless, as are 5fps differences when you're already over 50fps.
Thank you for adding those benches to my repetoire Munky! No one will ever post a "6800GT outperforms 6600GT SLI again without seeing these, thanks to you buddy! :beer:
You should, I'll be happy to post the ones that favor my side.Unlike you, Rollo, I don't just post benches that favor my side.
I don't know, from your (and my) benchamrks, it looks like 95% of the time you're no worse off with 6600GT SLI, so I don't see your point?And how are you gonna expect ppl to buy 2 video cards, and not be able to play at max settings?
There's a three problems with this:Just because YOU cant play 16xAF on your 6600 SLI setup, doesnt mean others should pay more money to get less performance.
It is true SLI doesn't work on all games, but it works on a LOT of games. The ones it doesn't work on, it does no harm, and usually they're games you can play pretty with one SLI level card.And since you yourself admit SLI doesn't work on CoD (and other games), that's all the less reason for me to buy it.
Actually I don't think I could tell the difference between 22 and 30- those averages are so slow the game would be lurching along like a slide show. You're closer to a point with 47 and 38, but it's just one bench? And remember what I said about the difference in 6600GT SLI and 6800GT being 2X AA where it exists? Applies here. You've wasted all this time trying to convince people there is some huge difference in 6600GT SLI and 6800GT, and it all comes back to what I already told you: Where there is a difference in performance, it's the difference between running at 2XAA and 4XAA.I'm sure you don't need magic eyes to see the difference between 30 and 22 fps, or between 47 and 38.
Originally posted by: Waylay00
Just get an X800XL!
Originally posted by: Compddd
Behold I am Rollo! SLI is the only choice because I say so and make babies with Nvidia!
Originally posted by: Rollo
Munky:
You should, I'll be happy to post the ones that favor my side.Unlike you, Rollo, I don't just post benches that favor my side.
I don't know, from your (and my) benchamrks, it looks like 95% of the time you're no worse off with 6600GT SLI, so I don't see your point?And how are you gonna expect ppl to buy 2 video cards, and not be able to play at max settings?
There's a three problems with this:Just because YOU cant play 16xAF on your 6600 SLI setup, doesnt mean others should pay more money to get less performance.
1. I have a 256MB 6800NU SLI set as well- performs much higher than a 6600GT SLI, especially at the higher settings.
2. Apparently the 6600GT SLI can do the 16X AF as well as a 6800GT, sometimes better, and two 6600GTs cost LESS than a 6800GT?
It is true SLI doesn't work on all games, but it works on a LOT of games. The ones it doesn't work on, it does no harm, and usually they're games you can play pretty with one SLI level card.And since you yourself admit SLI doesn't work on CoD (and other games), that's all the less reason for me to buy it.
Anyway, thanks again for the benches, those HL2 benches are gold.
BTW:
Actually I don't think I could tell the difference between 22 and 30- those averages are so slow the game would be lurching along like a slide show. You're closer to a point with 47 and 38, but it's just one bench? And remember what I said about the difference in 6600GT SLI and 6800GT being 2X AA where it exists? Applies here. You've wasted all this time trying to convince people there is some huge difference in 6600GT SLI and 6800GT, and it all comes back to what I already told you: Where there is a difference in performance, it's the difference between running at 2XAA and 4XAA.I'm sure you don't need magic eyes to see the difference between 30 and 22 fps, or between 47 and 38.
You should listen to me Munky- I only tell the truth.
Originally posted by: Compddd
Behold I am Rollo! SLI is the only choice because I say so and make babies with Nvidia!
Originally posted by: munky
Originally posted by: Rollo
Munky:
You should, I'll be happy to post the ones that favor my side.Unlike you, Rollo, I don't just post benches that favor my side.
I don't know, from your (and my) benchamrks, it looks like 95% of the time you're no worse off with 6600GT SLI, so I don't see your point?And how are you gonna expect ppl to buy 2 video cards, and not be able to play at max settings?
There's a three problems with this:Just because YOU cant play 16xAF on your 6600 SLI setup, doesnt mean others should pay more money to get less performance.
1. I have a 256MB 6800NU SLI set as well- performs much higher than a 6600GT SLI, especially at the higher settings.
2. Apparently the 6600GT SLI can do the 16X AF as well as a 6800GT, sometimes better, and two 6600GTs cost LESS than a 6800GT?
It is true SLI doesn't work on all games, but it works on a LOT of games. The ones it doesn't work on, it does no harm, and usually they're games you can play pretty with one SLI level card.And since you yourself admit SLI doesn't work on CoD (and other games), that's all the less reason for me to buy it.
Anyway, thanks again for the benches, those HL2 benches are gold.
BTW:
Actually I don't think I could tell the difference between 22 and 30- those averages are so slow the game would be lurching along like a slide show. You're closer to a point with 47 and 38, but it's just one bench? And remember what I said about the difference in 6600GT SLI and 6800GT being 2X AA where it exists? Applies here. You've wasted all this time trying to convince people there is some huge difference in 6600GT SLI and 6800GT, and it all comes back to what I already told you: Where there is a difference in performance, it's the difference between running at 2XAA and 4XAA.I'm sure you don't need magic eyes to see the difference between 30 and 22 fps, or between 47 and 38.
You should listen to me Munky- I only tell the truth.
Apparently you missed the point that you need an SLI mobo to use SLI, and when you add up the cost of a new mobo and 2 6600gt's, it costs more than 1 6800gt that people can use on their current motherboard.
Also, there IS a visual difference between 2xAA and 4xAA. Why would I buy 2 6600 cards to play at 2x (and dont forget a new motherboard) when I can buy 1 6800 and play at 4x just as well or better? In case you didnt know, 4xAA is BETTER that 2xAA. Repeat that.
And since SLI only works in SOME games and not others, why would I even bother considering it as an option?
As for sticking to one-sided benches, here's some more for ya:
http://www.hexus.net/content/reviews/re...JsX3Jldmlld19JRD05MzAmdXJsX3BhZ2U9Ng==\
-notice how HDR (one of your favorite features) get's no benefit from SLI.
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2284&p=7
-more HL2 benches
16x12, 4xAA, 8xAF
6800gt: 51 fps
6600gt sli: 39 fps - oooh, not even close
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2284&p=13
-D3 , 16x12, 4xAA, 8xAF
6800gt: 37 fps
6600gt sli: 34 fps - still cant match the bigger card
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2284&p=15
-UT2004, 16x12, 4x 8x
6800gt: 48 fps
6600gt sli: 42 fps - nope, cant match the better card there either
I'll find you more links if you keep arguing. Point is, when you crank up the resulution and turn on eye candy, the 6600gt's sli ALWAYS lag behind one 6800gt. Now, give me one good reason why I should buy 2 average cards and a sli motherboard, when instead i can just buy one good card and get better performance?
On to Round 3...