+67% Performance for Maxtor HDD

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crobusa

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Thought about it, then saw the fine print where they said there was absolutely NO support on it..
Though that may be, try contacting them and see if you get a responce. No one here works for Maxtor, and has intimite knowledge how this program works.
If you have a specific issue to report, please send an e-mail to maxboost@maxboostbeta.com.
 
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Before Max Boost:

Test Status
SMP Test : No
Total Test Threads : 1
SMT Test : No
Dynamic MP/MT Load Balance : No
Processor Affinity : No
Windows Disk Cache Used : Yes
Use Overlapped I/O : Yes
Command Queue Depth : 4 command(s)
Test File Size : 511MB
File Server Optimised : Yes

Benchmark Breakdown
Buffered Read : 103 MB/s
Sequential Read : 35 MB/s
Random Read : 9 MB/s
Buffered Write : 124 MB/s
Sequential Write : 24 MB/s
Random Write : 203 MB/s
Average Access Time : 6 ms (estimated)

After MaxBoost:

Test Status
SMP Test : No
Total Test Threads : 1
SMT Test : No
Dynamic MP/MT Load Balance : No
Processor Affinity : No
Windows Disk Cache Used : Yes
Use Overlapped I/O : Yes
Command Queue Depth : 4 command(s)
Test File Size : 511MB
File Server Optimised : Yes

Benchmark Breakdown
Buffered Read : 99 MB/s
Sequential Read : 40 MB/s
Random Read : 9 MB/s
Buffered Write : 546 MB/s
Sequential Write : 29 MB/s
Random Write : 166 MB/s
Average Access Time : 5 ms (estimated)

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All this does is increase the evidence that either Sandra is inaccurate, the Maxtor driver does nothing, or more likely both.[/quote]

Did you notice that sometime, your Maxtor HDD is not automatically detected and then you have to enable MaxBoost on it by launching the software and selecting it manually.
 

thorin

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Originally posted by: blakeatwork
Originally posted by: thorin
Originally posted by: blakeatwork
Right... so, explain this one....

I have

1) Quantum FireballAS boot drive (supposedly supported)
2) Maxtor D740X 60GB storage drive (supposedly supported)
3) Two external maxtor drives (not supported)


Why is it that it says I don't have any supported drives???

Betas... gotta love'em...
Perhaps it'd make sense to email them and ask?

Thorin

Thought about it, then saw the fine print where they said there was absolutely NO support on it... thought someone in here might have had a similar issue, this being a TECH board and all...

but, it appears I was mistaken, at least from your end of things..

As someone mentioned "If you have a specific issue to report, please send an e-mail to maxboost@maxboostbeta.com." ... "but, it appears I was mistaken, at least from your end of things.."

Thorin
 

beatle

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Originally posted by: thorin
So? What are the answers?

Thorin

This was quite an awful weekend... I did manage to install it and it doesn't work with my Raptor (go figure). I don't notice any "seat of the pants" difference in speed, though. If I have a chance tonight I'll do before/after results.
 

thorin

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Originally posted by: beatle
Originally posted by: thorin
So? What are the answers?

Thorin

This was quite an awful weekend... I did manage to install it and it doesn't work with my Raptor (go figure). I don't notice any "seat of the pants" difference in speed, though. If I have a chance tonight I'll do before/after results.
K Thanks!

Thorin

 

ethebubbeth

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it would be a dream come true if this thing worked and actually showed large benefits in daily usage performance, but as for now i will remain skeptical
 

elkinm

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Anybody figure out how to dettect the D740X Models or get a reply from the support team?

This detected and installed on my old 5400 RPM 13 GB drive fine, but I could not test it. But it does not detect my 80 GB D740X just like blake said.

Mine does not detect in the Maxboot software after install either. It would be great if I could get it to work and get some improvements from it.

Thanks
 
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Originally posted by: ethebubbeth
it would be a dream come true if this thing worked and actually showed large benefits in daily usage performance, but as for now i will remain skeptical

Test it and you won't be skeptical anymore...

Originally posted by: elkinm
Anybody figure out how to dettect the D740X Models or get a reply from the support team?

This detected and installed on my old 5400 RPM 13 GB drive fine, but I could not test it. But it does not detect my 80 GB D740X just like blake said.

Mine does not detect in the Maxboot software after install either. It would be great if I could get it to work and get some improvements from it.

Thanks

May be you can mail the Support Team
 

elkinm

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I did contact support several days ago. I'm just wondering if anyone else may have goten a reply or managed to get it to work by some other means.
 

beatle

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Ok, I'm trying to do this test precisely, so I'm recording a list of steps. I f'ed up once, so I had to start over, but this time I restarted, Windows used a different amount of memory for the startup programs. First was 302 megs, 2nd was 269 megs, 3rd is 302 again. I have not changed anything in my startup or services. I'm not sure if this would show anything conclusive if I were to test now. In addition, the Maxtor is my storage drive, not my OS/apps. All in all, I'd say this utility might be worth it (as some of the other benchmarks have shown) but I'm not going to cry when the 60 days is up.
 

dszd0g

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Originally posted by: Pariah

The read numbers show no improvment from the Maxtor driver in buffered or random reads which are the only 2 it should improve. Sequential improved, but since by name the reads are sequential, there should not have been any improvement from additional caching.
You must write very different caching algorithms than the ones I have written. Random is very difficult to write an algorithm for and thus should show little improvement. Sequential is very easy to improve if there are delays (the improvement in Sandra tells us that it does have a delay between the reads). One caching technique often used is to read ahead of the data that was just read on the assumption that the data just after the data read might be useful soon.

In Modern Operating Systems by Tanenbaum this is called "Block Read Ahead", the basic idea is as follows:
Initially, the file is given the benefit of the doubt and put in sequential access mode. However, whenever a seek is done, the bit is cleared. If sequential reads start happening again, the bit is set once again. In this way, the file system can make a reasonable guess about whether it should read ahead or not.
In another place in the book there is a more general caching by "exploiting locality."

Make sense now?
 

JBT

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this detected my D740X 40 Gig no problem seems like it is faster, boot times anyways havn't had time for more testing.
 

Pariah

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Originally posted by: dszd0g
Originally posted by: Pariah

The read numbers show no improvment from the Maxtor driver in buffered or random reads which are the only 2 it should improve. Sequential improved, but since by name the reads are sequential, there should not have been any improvement from additional caching.
You must write very different caching algorithms than the ones I have written. Random is very difficult to write an algorithm for and thus should show little improvement. Sequential is very easy to improve if there are delays (the improvement in Sandra tells us that it does have a delay between the reads). One caching technique often used is to read ahead of the data that was just read on the assumption that the data just after the data read might be useful soon.

In Modern Operating Systems by Tanenbaum this is called "Block Read Ahead", the basic idea is as follows:
Initially, the file is given the benefit of the doubt and put in sequential access mode. However, whenever a seek is done, the bit is cleared. If sequential reads start happening again, the bit is set once again. In this way, the file system can make a reasonable guess about whether it should read ahead or not.
In another place in the book there is a more general caching by "exploiting locality."

Make sense now?

If you had read more carefully you could have saved yourself the effort of typing all that. I am aware of read ahead caching and that cache can help during sequential reads which is why I said there shouldn't have been any improvement from the additional caching this Maxtor driver provides. It is a rare situation where a typical user will need more 8MB of cache on the drive for read ahead caching. Certainly not a situation that would show up in a benchmark.
 
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I am not as technical advanced as you guys but transfering a file to a originally slow (compared to my raptor) 2MB 10GB is quite (around 2 third of the previous time) when using MaxBoost and launching some heavy application like Illustr*tor 10 or M*ya 5 is dawn faster now.
 

elkinm

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Got a reply from the support staff.

The MaxBoost drivers are incompatable with the accelerated Nvidia IDE drivers. They recomended switching to the main default driver set on the website. For me instaling the nvidia drivers did the trick, I did not even need to reinstall maxboost.

I didn't get practicly anything out of the accelerated IDE drivers so I hope these run better.
 
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If anybody has experienced issue of detection (I should write no-detection) of some harddrive and if you are using Detonator 5.xx, switching back to official 4.xx instead of these crappy beta cheater 5.xx solves the issue
 
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