Review 6700k vs 3700x in 23games

[Head1985]

I upgraded from 6700k 4.5Ghz to 3700x and here are my results in games.
Both system have 1080TI 2040/12600 and 2x16GB 3466mhz CL16 ram
Also ryzen is on MSI b450 tomahawk and 6700k was on asus z170 pro gaming
Results:










Far cry5
3700x win 1809
https://abload.de/img/farcry5_2019_07_15_15vlj34.png
3700x win 1903
https://abload.de/img/farcry5_2019_07_15_20obkzs.png
6700k 4.5ghz
https://abload.de/img/farcry5_2019_06_08_17pfkxv.png
far cry new dawn
3700x
https://abload.de/img/farcrynewdawn_2019_0767j66.png
6700k 4.5ghz
https://abload.de/img/farcrynewdawn_2019_0642j6g.png

 

[Head1985]

War thunder cpu test
3700x win 1809
https://abload.de/img/aces_2019_07_15_17_00xtj3t.png
6700k 4.5Ghz
https://abload.de/img/aces_2019_06_06_06_34s0j6u.png
3700x win 1903
https://abload.de/img/aces_2019_07_15_21_42aljg8.png
Hitman2 dx11
3700x win 1809
Average framerate : 89.5 FPS
Minimum framerate : 55.5 FPS
Maximum framerate : 128.1 FPS
1% low framerate : 55.5 FPS
0.1% low framerate : 53.1 FPS
3700x win 1903
Average framerate : 88.2 FPS
Minimum framerate : 55.3 FPS
Maximum framerate : 127.1 FPS
1% low framerate : 55.1 FPS
0.1% low framerate : 17.0 FPS
6700K 4.5ghz
Average framerate : 93.3 FPS
Minimum framerate : 60.6 FPS
Maximum framerate : 132.6 FPS
1% low framerate : 60.0 FPS
0.1% low framerate : 56.7 FPS
Hitman2 dx12
3700x win 1809
Average framerate : 118.9 FPS
Minimum framerate : 99.7 FPS
Maximum framerate : 134.9 FPS
1% low framerate : 90.8 FPS
0.1% low framerate : 83.7 FPS
3700x win 1903
Average framerate : 119.5 FPS
Minimum framerate : 104.3 FPS
Maximum framerate : 135.9 FPS
1% low framerate : 91.4 FPS
0.1% low framerate : 80.1 FPS
6700k 4.5ghz
Average framerate : 130.9 FPS
Minimum framerate : 104.4 FPS
Maximum framerate : 161.4 FPS
1% low framerate : 96.8 FPS
0.1% low framerate : 84.9 FPS

 

[Markfw]

Without looking at all the results, are you happy ? is it faster ? The result is whats important.

 

[ehume]

Looks like he broke even, and in a few cases lost a step when he changed from a 3-year-old Intel to a current AMD.

 

[Head1985]

Without looking at all the results, are you happy ? is it faster ? The result is whats important.

I like ryzen.I think it will get better in future with new agesa and more games will use more than 8threads.I was on 6700k since 2015 and i wanted change.
Btw all games were cpu bottleneck because i was testing in cpu bottleneck scenarios(like geothermal valley in ROTR or that big city in shadow of tomb raider).They are really close in performance.
Maybe i was expecting more in AC games.I dont know why it is so close.

 

[ehume]

. . . Maybe i was expecting more in AC games.I dont know why it is so close.

We are talking about Intel, here. AMD has caught up. Pretty good, that.

 

[Thunder 57]

Looks like he broke even, and in a few cases lost a step when he changed from a 3-year-old Intel to a current AMD.

Well if you want to go by that logic it looks like a 3 year old Intel just about caught up to Intel. What does that tell you about what Intel's been doing?

 

[Carfax83]

Maybe i was expecting more in AC games.I dont know why it is so close.

I don't think that's an unreasonable expectation. The AC Anvil Next engine is exceptionally parallel for using DX11, so one would assume that Zen 2 would knock it out of the park.

The reason why the scores are probably so close is because of NVidia's drivers being hyper optimized for Intel CPUs; particularly their SMT implementation.

 

[Thunder 57]

I don't think that's an unreasonable expectation. The AC Anvil Next engine is exceptionally parallel for using DX11, so one would assume that Zen 2 would knock it out of the park.

The reason why the scores are probably so close is because of NVidia's drivers being hyper optimized for Intel CPUs; particularly their SMT implementation.

I've heard the driver rumor before and it sounds rather plausible. Is there any Zen 2 benches using Vega or Navi that are out there? I can't seem to find any.

 

[Topweasel]

I don't think that's an unreasonable expectation. The AC Anvil Next engine is exceptionally parallel for using DX11, so one would assume that Zen 2 would knock it out of the park.

The reason why the scores are probably so close is because of NVidia's drivers being hyper optimized for Intel CPUs; particularly their SMT implementation.

I would second this. It's gotten better since Coffee Lake but its been way to clear that Nvidia card take weird unexplained hits when It breaks from the typical 4c8t configuration even between Intel CPU's when using DX12 more than DX11, but still it pops up at weird locations. Honestly even if its just one reviewer I'd like to see someone use a Radeon VII or 5700xt since both can be CPU bound at 1080p, to test against these CPU's. Maybe we are wrong in that assumption, but it would be nice to see it put to the test.

 

[Shmee]

Thanks for taking the time to make these benchmarks. I certainly appreciate the effort you put in.

 

[maddogmcgee]

Thanks for doing these. I upgraded from a 6700k with the same motherboard to a 3700x with the same motherboard so I was really interested. I think the swap to 8 core was done at a good time, I still managed to sell my 6700k for $300 AUD on Ebay after paying under $500.

 

[Chaoticlusts]

Thanks for all the extra data

Any idea what's going on with the Total War results? They just seem a bit skewy, both the CPU's and your GPU should be pushing that wayyyyy over 60. Did you happen to benchmark that in DX12 mode?

 

[Gikaseixas]

6700k is no slouch, it still gives today's cpus a run for their money for sure. If gaming is all that you do, makes little sense to upgrade from 6700k or 7700k.

Just like before, these 8 core parts will take off once software really takes advantage of all the resources available

 

[VirtualLarry]

Thanks, OP, for putting in all of this work.

I wonder though, is this simply showing that most games, even today, barely take full advantage of a 4C/8T CPU? And that 8C/16T is pure overkill, thread-wise, for gaming today? But it does show that AMD has caught up with Intel, and even surpassed in some cases, in "gaming IPC". (I'm sure that the large L3 cache helps too, on 7nm.)

 

[epsilon84]

Thanks, OP, for putting in all of this work.

I wonder though, is this simply showing that most games, even today, barely take full advantage of a 4C/8T CPU? And that 8C/16T is pure overkill, thread-wise, for gaming today? But it does show that AMD has caught up with Intel, and even surpassed in some cases, in "gaming IPC". (I'm sure that the large L3 cache helps too, on 7nm.)

It's actually the opposite, application IPC is equal to or better than Skylake. 'Gaming IPC' is still a bit better on Skylake core for core, but Ryzen 3K is still a big improvement over Ryzen 2K in this regard. Hardware Unboxed tested this, with all CPUs locked to 4GHz

 

[VirtualLarry]

Sorry, didn't mean to somehow imply that non-Gaming-IPC wasn't better than Intel. In the case of 3rd-Gen Ryzen, it's LEAPS AND BOUNDS ahead of Intel. Just that "gaming IPC" is finally matching, in many cases, Intel as well.

 

[Thunder 57]

...But it does show that AMD has caught up with Intel, and even surpassed in some cases, in "gaming IPC". (I'm sure that the large L3 cache helps too, on 7nm.)

What is this L3 you speak of? It's Gamecache, remember?

 

[DrMrLordX]

AMD won a Fallout 4 benchmark? I'm shocked.

 

[zinfamous]

AMD won a Fallout 4 benchmark? I'm shocked.

that's one way to look at it. The way I looked at it, all the scores, was "What the hell is wrong with Fallout 4?"

 

[Kenmitch]

Nice work!

I guess your still working on the 720P benchmarks. /s

 

[mopardude87]

6700k is no slouch, it still gives today's cpus a run for their money for sure. If gaming is all that you do, makes little sense to upgrade from 6700k or 7700k.

Just like before, these 8 core parts will take off once software really takes advantage of all the resources available

I would love a new BF game to perhaps have like 128 player combat and put a good work out on my 8700 non k. Depending on map i am lucky enough to see 7 threads push pass 40% usage in BF1/BF5 but some maps about choked my i5 8400 yet i see the i7 9700 with a high end gpu push a easy 60% usage across all 8 threads?

 

[rbk123]

Can you bookmark this thread and come back in a couple of months to see if there's any improvements with newer BIOS's and any other changes?

 

[Paul98]

Great work, about the results I expected. The 4.5Ghz vs 4.4Ghz boost, about the same where it's not using the extra threads. But now you have twice the threads and cores moving forward.

 

[Head1985]

AMD won a Fallout 4 benchmark? I'm shocked.

Nope 6700k have 99fps and 3700x 88fps