Question 6800 vs 6800XT vs N32

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I'm planning to upgrade my system feb/march when the 7800X3D is released so I can decide which 8-core CPU makes most sense to me. I have an Odyssey G9, but I mostly play older games, and world of tanks and no interest in raytracing (at current pricing and performance). The 6800 series seems to offer bester price/performance atm, an N32 arrival is unknown. So what would you do? Buy now before stock is gone, wait and maybe miss out, or something else? I really dont want to spend much more than $800 in Danish prices for a video card.


(Prices for comparison)
3080 10GB ($999)
7900XT ($1142)
4080 ($1570)
 
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Gideon

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The 6800 series seems to offer bester price/performance atm, an N32 arrival is unknown.


TL;DR:
Considering AMD didn't even announce the release date of the 78xx series, i'd say go for it!


Too long (but please do read):

I have a friend that uses a similar 49" Samsung but 120Hz and not branded Odyssey. I borrowed him my RX 6800 recently - and he was perfectly happy with it (playing lighter games like ARPGs, Amazon's New World etc). So unless you plan to play Cyberpunk at high refresh rates, it should be fine.

That said, the 6800 XT seems to perform a bit better at near 4K resolutions (like yours) but it only really matters if you are playing much more taxing games than WoT. I wouldn't totally rule out 6700XT 6750XT as well if you can get those significantly cheaper as they are surprisingly close, say 400$ without tax. Below is my thought process for current Estonian prices:
I'll use this review of p(at 4K, which is only slightly higher than your resolution) as a quick performance reference and
list the prices (including 20% VAT) in Estonia for decent cheapest AIB models:
  1. the cheapest RX 6700 XT is 445€ having approximately 92% the perf of the RX 6750
  2. the cheapest RX 6750 XT is 540€ having ~100% the performance of the RX 6750
  3. the cheapest RX 6800 is 650€ having 118% the perf
  4. the cheapest RX 6800 XT is 725€ (average 800€+) having 136% the perf
  5. the cheapest RX 6900 XT is 850€ (average 925€+) having 145% the perf
  6. 7900 XTs are over 1000€ so skipping those.

Given these prices I'd probably also go for a 6800 XT or 6800 as well. But I'd prefer the cheaper cards if 6700 XT would be around 400€ or 6750XT below 450€

TBP matters

I'd add another dimension to consider and that is power draw / noise.

In theory the fan noise of the ~250W RX 6800 should be about the same as the ~150W GTX 1070 I used to have. But in practice I definitely noticed the change (simply more air was pushed through the case). The same was true again when I recently tried out a 350W ex-mining RTX 3080 Ti (hence the burrowed 6800) with a monstrous cooler:



And again, while the decibels might be similar between the two, the intensity of the sound most certainly wasn't. I can hear it even with headphones! Therefore, Idare to say, you definitely feel the difference between a 240W and a 300W card.
It probably won't matter much if you game with headphones set to medium-high (I have small kids, so my volume is quite low, even when using headphones), so it's something to consider.

Conclusion

Overall it's a tradeoff. If you play older games anyway it would usually be better to pay less and upgrade more often (e.g. a cheap 67xx series card), but with the given market I'm not sure how good that advice is.
 
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Gideon

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Since you mention playing mostly older games, have you considered:

https://www.proshop.dk/Grafikkort/S...0-GAMING-OC-10GB-GDDR6-RAM-Grafikkort/3122707

Just beware, the deal listed is not a RX 6700 XT but a RX 6700 10GB (non-XT) review here. A very good budget card, but might not be as good at your resolution (88% of 4K)

Still there are 6700 XTs going around at almost the same price:


I had a very similar calculation in the "spoiler" part of my post above.

Overall if I really only played less-taxing games (like WoT) - at those prices I'd go with the 6700 XT
 
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Just beware, the deal listed is not a RX 6700 XT but a RX 6700 10GB (non-XT) review here. A very good budget card, but might not be as good at your resolution (88% of 4K)

That was kind of intentional. I don't think the added power consumption of the XT is justified by the extra performance.

With electricity prices the way they are here in Denmark, that is something to keep in mind.
 

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Just beware, the deal listed is not a RX 6700 XT but a RX 6700 10GB (non-XT) review here. A very good budget card, but might not be as good at your resolution (88% of 4K)

Still there are 6700 XTs going around at almost the same price:



I had a very similar calculation in the "spoiler" part of my post above.

Overall if I really only played less-taxing games (like WoT) - at those prices I'd go with the 6700 XT
Thank you, 88 - 3150 = 2,79
 

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No laptop, I’m a hardware enthusiast before a gamer

GN is planning a review of ARC with newer drivers, but no I don’t think that card will be on my shortlist.
 

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That was kind of intentional. I don't think the added power consumption of the XT is justified by the extra performance.

With electricity prices the way they are here in Denmark, that is something to keep in mind.
I think I game 3-6 hours/week so I don’t think it will be a problem.
 
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AMD is going to be pushing for widescreen gaming when the Samsung 8K widescreen monitors launch. I think you should wait for RX 7800 because they may optimize their drivers to give better performance on widescreen monitors with the RX 7000 series. You will get a nice FPS boost from just upgrading to any 7000X3D CPU with your Geforce 1070. I'm sure you could enjoy that boost for a while until you are able to get a card that you really want.
 

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Since AMD didn't even mention N32, it would lend a lot of credence to the rumors of delays until mid-year in order to correct some hardware bugs.

You could probably get by until then with what you have, but you could also try to scoop up something used if the prices are good to try and hold you over.

Or just look for a deal on a 6800 if that has the kind of performance you're looking for and go with that so you don't have to play a waiting game for several months.
 

biostud

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1440p@60Hz

Some titles do require scaling from 1080p or slightly reduced settings, but that is only the absolutely newest. Since I mostly play strategy or undemanding 3D RPG titles, I get by fine.
Yeah, my old monitor was a 27” Korea ips, but when I upgraded to the G9, my fps were effectively halved, so often I have to lower settings quite a bit just to get 30-40 fps. I might just wait, but I really am starting to feel the upgrade itch.
 

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Based on my personal hands-on experience, the 6800 is significantly faster than a 1070. If you are going for a noticeable gain, it will do it.

I always wanted a 6800XT myself, which is going to stretch its legs at your higher res. I think you win with either of them.

So pick one, upgrade, tell us about it and enjoy the higher performance while we all wait for the AMD refresh and what that maybe might do to the midrange market
 
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GodisanAtheist

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If you're keeping your card for 5-6 years, then the more performance the better IMO.

I seriously doubt the 7800XT is going to either seriously out perform the 6800 series or seriously undercut it in price based on what we've seen from the 7900 series, so I would go for the 6800XT which is a known quantity (good performance, good hardware, good cooling, good RAM etc...) and just be happy.
 
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