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geno

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I've got a question for the tax gods :

I have a friend who claimed single on his 2008 W-4 up until November, when he got married. Does he now have to file his 1040 as married, losing out on some of his withholdings? Or is there a way to get a more accurate return? He seems to think it won't be legal / correct if he files his 1099 as single since he is officially married at this point. What's the common practice for this?
 

CPA

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Originally posted by: thehstrybean
Quick question:

I had a job for a month in the summer of '08 at a state university. I was given my W-2 (for the job that I worked there), and a 1099-MISC for that summer job. Box 7 was filled in. I was paid in a check that had no taxes taken out. Should I file under Schedule C and put it in as "Cash" under "other income"? Thanks!

I'm a little confused. Did you have two jobs during the summer? In any case, yes file the 1099-Misc income using schedule C. Deduct whatever you can so you don't have to pay taxes (start with auto expense).
 

CPA

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Originally posted by: geno
I've got a question for the tax gods :

I have a friend who claimed single on his 2008 W-4 up until November, when he got married. Does he now have to file his 1099 as married, losing out on some of his withholdings? Or is there a way to get a more accurate return? He seems to think it won't be legal / correct if he files his 1099 as single since he is officially married at this point. What's the common practice for this?

You mean 1040, not 1099, correct?

If he was married in Nov, he can only file as either Married filing Jointly or Married filing Seperately. All tax software can show the difference between each filing. Also, he shouldn't worry too much, most marriage tax penalties have been ironed out the last several years (thanks to Bush, believe it or not).
 

CPA

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Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
how many tax returns can i file with 1 copy of turbo tax?
can i use it for both my gf and myself?

um, don't know, you might want to check their website. Most let about 3 or so.
 

CPA

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Originally posted by: troytime
i received a 10990G a few weeks ago, but its for the 2007 tax year.

its for 510 dollars, payer is the illinois dept of revenue.

i don't know what its for, or what i should do with it.
do i have to revise my tax return that i submitted last year?

Did you receive unemployment income? What box is the $510 in?
 

CPA

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Can and how can I expense a M16 in my Scorp, lastname_investments, a Nevada corp? Is it an investment since it's an investment grade firearm? Company bought it and owns it.

I will ask my accountant but I'd like a second opinion.

Generally, you can't. Since you don't use it for business purposes, you can't reasonable determine the useful life of it (is there even one?) and because it will most likely go up in value, the IRS won't allow you to depreciate it.
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: troytime
i received a 10990G a few weeks ago, but its for the 2007 tax year.

its for 510 dollars, payer is the illinois dept of revenue.

i don't know what its for, or what i should do with it.
do i have to revise my tax return that i submitted last year?
It would either be unemployment or a state tax refund.

If for unemployment (you should know this), you need to file it as such.
If it is a tax refund, then if you filed a Schedule A and listed state taxes for 2007, then you need to show this as income for 2008. IF you did not itemize in 2007, then you can ignore the 1099-G

 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
how many tax returns can i file with 1 copy of turbo tax?
can i use it for both my gf and myself?

There is usually no limit to preparing using the tax S/W.

There is a limit for e-filing.
Cookies are stored for tracking the filing and State returns being used.

 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: thehstrybean
Quick question:

I had a job for a month in the summer of '08 at a state university. I was given my W-2 (for the job that I worked there), and a 1099-MISC for that summer job. Box 7 was filled in. I was paid in a check that had no taxes taken out. Should I file under Schedule C and put it in as "Cash" under "other income"? Thanks!

I'm a little confused. Did you have two jobs during the summer? In any case, yes file the 1099-Misc income using schedule C. Deduct whatever you can so you don't have to pay taxes (start with auto expense).
And internet/computer expenses (you had to get to AT to ask the questions)

Much of your expenses may be proportional but dig for anything remotely related.

 

lebe0024

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: FP
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: FP
Simple question...

You are allowed to deduct state income tax from your federal return right?

If so, do you deduct the amount you paid in state taxes or the actual amount you owe?

For example, I paid $10,000 in state income taxes but only ended up owing $7,000.

Is my federal deduction $10,000 or $7,000?

$7000. Technically you haven't paid taxes until you file, it's just withholding.

Hmm... It appears TurboTax thinks otherwise. For some reason it is calculating my 2007 state refund as income in 2008 since it was paid to me in 2008.

In fact, when I look at my previous TT 1040 forms they do indeed use the "paid" amount in my Schedule A and not the "amount owed" amount.

you didn't say you had a refund in 2008.

This is why we avoid state tax questions though.

This seems like a confusing topic, so let me try to clear the air. There's no double-taxing going on here, don't worry.

Let's say your 2008 W2 reports a 10,000 withholding for state taxes. That means 10,000 was taken out of your paychecks throughout the year.

When preparing your 2008 federal taxes, you don't know yet what your actual state taxes will be (and if you'll get a refund at all), because you haven't prepared your state return yet. You need to prepare your federal first, before you prepare your state. So when you prepare your federal, you itemize your state taxes as 10,000.

Let's say that after you prepare your federal taxes and begin preparing your state return, you find out that you should only owe your state 7000, so you'll get a 3000 return for state. It's too late to update your federal and change the 10000 to 7000, because your state return was probably based off of your federal. Get it? So next year, you'll have to report that 3000 as income since you itemized 10000 in the first place.

It's a way of correcting it a year late, and sort of addresses the circular dependency problem.
 

lebe0024

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Or in other words, you only need to claim a previous year state refund on your federal taxes if you itemized the withholdings (rather than actual taxes paid) the previous year.
 

FAS284

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I'm a first time home buyer (11/2008) and have planned to take out the $7500 tax credit. However, I'm hearing different things about what will happen with this program depending on Obama's economic stimulus plans.

What do you think? Should I take it and be prepared to pay $500 per year for next 15 years or wait it out and file an amended return next year (I assume that would be possible) if nothing changes.
 

troytime

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Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: troytime
i received a 10990G a few weeks ago, but its for the 2007 tax year.

its for 510 dollars, payer is the illinois dept of revenue.

i don't know what its for, or what i should do with it.
do i have to revise my tax return that i submitted last year?

Did you receive unemployment income? What box is the $510 in?

I didn't receive any other income, other than my job.
the amount is in box 2 (refunds, credits, or offests from your state or local income tax)
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: troytime
Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: troytime
i received a 10990G a few weeks ago, but its for the 2007 tax year.

its for 510 dollars, payer is the illinois dept of revenue.

i don't know what its for, or what i should do with it.
do i have to revise my tax return that i submitted last year?

Did you receive unemployment income? What box is the $510 in?

I didn't receive any other income, other than my job.
the amount is in box 2 (refunds, credits, or offests from your state or local income tax)
simple question which you have yet to answer.

did you get a tax refund from the state last year.
If yes, what was the amount.

If you are unsure, look up your state tax paperwork for 2007

 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: FAS284
I'm a first time home buyer (11/2008) and have planned to take out the $7500 tax credit. However, I'm hearing different things about what will happen with this program depending on Obama's economic stimulus plans.

What do you think? Should I take it and be prepared to pay $500 per year for next 15 years or wait it out and file an amended return next year (I assume that would be possible) if nothing changes.


If you file before the rules change, then you wil have to file an 1040X to get the diffeence back or you may be able to roll over the credit until next year.

What Congress proposes and how the rules end up in the IRS books are two different monsters.

I would expect that anyting that is on the table now will not be clarified prior to April.

If you need to file (to get your hands on a refund, then do so. Any credit that is available from the Bush package, you will be able toutilize. Anything from the Obama package will take a few months. If you can afford to wait until April or Aug, then it is your choise.

 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: joshsquall
Seems like Turbo Tax's site is getting destroyed right now. Wonder if it's a DoS attack?

Most W2s come out at the end of Jan - people get them the first week of Feb and start doing them afterwards. TT is pushing the free online (if people use the proper portal) and with all the talk of "FREE" moneyblowing around, every greedy person wants their share.

I do not think it is a DoS but a server overload.

Try at 3-4AM and you wil have better luck

 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: lebe0024
Or in other words, you only need to claim a previous year state refund on your federal taxes if you itemized the withholdings (rather than actual taxes paid) the previous year.

Correct - you claimed expenses due to payment of state taxes that you did not actually have. Therefore, Uncle wants credit for the credit granted.

If you paid extra state taxes that were not withheld, those would be added to the following year line item for Taxes paid.

 

trmiv

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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I'm working through my taxes and the only thing that has me stuck right now is the Personal Property Taxes section for itemizing deductions. It says I can "deduct the portion of the fee you pay for the registration of your car if that part is based on the car's value." So I figured out that to be $378 total for our two cars last year, but I'm not 100% that I'm figuring this out correctly. When I pay the vehicle tax yearly there is a section on the bill that lists the Taxing District, the Rate Per $100 value of vehicle, and the Amount Due. Then this is totaled up to get the tax. Then on top of that they asses a flat $25 "vehicle fee." So if I'm figuring thus out correctly I can deduct whatever I paid in tax on the car less the $25 fee since that is not based on the car's value?
 

Soundmanred

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This may be a State question (or at least partially).
My only income for 2008 was Unemployment. I usually use Turbotax online to file my taxes.
Where do I enter my info. Do I just skip all of the W-2 stuff? I got a slip from Oklahoma stating how much I recieved in UI benefits, but that's not a real W-2, correct?
 

geno

Lifer
Dec 26, 1999
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Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: geno
I've got a question for the tax gods :

I have a friend who claimed single on his 2008 W-4 up until November, when he got married. Does he now have to file his 1099 as married, losing out on some of his withholdings? Or is there a way to get a more accurate return? He seems to think it won't be legal / correct if he files his 1099 as single since he is officially married at this point. What's the common practice for this?

You mean 1040, not 1099, correct?

If he was married in Nov, he can only file as either Married filing Jointly or Married filing Seperately. All tax software can show the difference between each filing. Also, he shouldn't worry too much, most marriage tax penalties have been ironed out the last several years (thanks to Bush, believe it or not).

lol, yes, 1040.... cmon, 1099 and 1040, they're practically the same thing! That's sarcasm, of course. Thank you for the info, I'll be sure to pass it along to my friend
 

BKLounger

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I did some work for a non-profit and they still haven't sent me out a 1099 for what I was paid. How long can they wait to get it to me before they are breaking the law?
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: BKLounger
I did some work for a non-profit and they still haven't sent me out a 1099 for what I was paid. How long can they wait to get it to me before they are breaking the law?

If it was processed out by them by the 31st, they are in compliance. It is the mailing date, not the arrival date.

Depending on the distance from them to you, allow this week. Then give them a call.

If you intend on filing electronically, you do not need the 1099, just the numbers themselves; those you should have from yoiur invoices to them.
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: Soundmanred
This may be a State question (or at least partially).
My only income for 2008 was Unemployment. I usually use Turbotax online to file my taxes.
Where do I enter my info. Do I just skip all of the W-2 stuff? I got a slip from Oklahoma stating how much I received in UI benefits, but that's not a real W-2, correct?

What you received was a 1099-G

Tax S/W will ask you if your received any unemployment payments and how much received and then taxes withheld.

As you surmised, the W2 stuff will be skipped.

 
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