Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Vic
Tit for tat then. His entire argument was moot, just like Trudeau's. It all stems for the false belief that evolution concerns itself with the origin of life, as opposed to the development and (gasp) evolution of life.
BS. Consider that Trudeau begins by wondering whether the patient is a "creationist," not an believer in ID. Many, if not most, creationists do not believe in evolution and therefore the strip makes sense within that context. He doesn't even mention "ID" until the very end, when he quips about the drugs being "intelligently designed."
Alright, point taken. I won't defend young-earth creationists, just their right to believe in whatever foolishness they want to believe in (as I would defend anyone else's right). Which would include the idea that they should be allowed medical care even if it is based on science they don't believe in. After all, isn't that what being noble is all about? For the strong to protect the weak and the wise to protect the foolish? And, in that fashion, it is where Trudeau's strip fails. For what do the strong have to fear from the weak, or the wise from the foolish? So what exactly is it that Harvey and Gigantopithecus, et al. fear because not all believe as they do?
You've already been told by numerous other posters that evolution is
not 'plain ol' random chance' 'unprovable by science'. One step further, not even mutation is entirely random (which is still a commonly held idea that's only recently been shown to be inaccurate). So where you get the idea that evolution is random I have no idea, hence my ad hominem. But as someone else mentioned, it's not ad hominem when it's true. I also find it flabbergasting that someone would willingly hide their plain ignorance behind patronizing vitriol, but hey, it takes all kinds, I suppose.
I am afraid of anti-science in all its forms because in this country, where everybody has an opinion that counts (at least at the ballot box), persons who doubt science & embrace faith-based reasoning about the natural world are doing the rest of us a grave disservice & are an impediment to scientific progress. One need only look at the sorry state of stem cell research in the US to see we're sacrificing innumerable therapies/techniques etc. because stem cell research makes baby jebus cry or some other such nonsense.
What did Galileo have to fear from the ignorant rubes who didn't buy his scientific theories?