7 Year Old Faces Possible Sexual Harassment Charges For Defending Himself

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JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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Quite the contrary. Zero tolerance was, and is most often championed by Republicans.

spideys cognitive dissonance is the greatest ever seen. You could waterboard him and he still wont see that.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Alternatively we could just call it kids being kids, give them both a bollocking (with a quiet thumbs up to the nut kicker) and let them get on with life?

that makes to much sense.

spideys cognitive dissonance is the greatest ever seen. You could waterboard him and he still wont see that.

spidey is the flip side of crieg. both are fucking nuts (well at least when it comes to politics).
 

Rainsford

Lifer
Apr 25, 2001
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OK, but then,



Shouldn't we then call that attempted murder?

Alternatively we could just call it kids being kids, give them both a bollocking (with a quiet thumbs up to the nut kicker) and let them get on with life?

I feel like serious or long-term violence by kids should be cracked down on, hard. But I think there is value in allowing kids a bit of leeway to be kids when it comes to dealing with bullying. It helps the bullied kids realize that sometimes they have to stick up for themselves and it helps bullies realize that maybe being a giant douche is a bad idea because people might not respond too well to your bullshit.

I know anecdotal evidence isn't always the best source of data, but I remember being a kid. And while fighting back might not always work for everyone, I didn't have a ton of problems with bullies growing up...possibly due to the way I responded somewhat unpleasantly when someone was being an ass to me.
 

spittledip

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Apr 23, 2005
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OK, but then,



Shouldn't we then call that attempted murder?

Alternatively we could just call it kids being kids, give them both a bollocking (with a quiet thumbs up to the nut kicker) and let them get on with life?

I feel like serious or long-term violence by kids should be cracked down on, hard. But I think there is value in allowing kids a bit of leeway to be kids when it comes to dealing with bullying. It helps the bullied kids realize that sometimes they have to stick up for themselves and it helps bullies realize that maybe being a giant douche is a bad idea because people might not respond too well to your bullshit.

I know anecdotal evidence isn't always the best source of data, but I remember being a kid. And while fighting back might not always work for everyone, I didn't have a ton of problems with bullies growing up...possibly due to the way I responded somewhat unpleasantly when someone was being an ass to me.

Too much common sense.

This whole thing almost feels like a reactionary stance against the politicization of bullying. I really don't care for how bullying has been politicized, as it is a part of life from childhood until old age. It is just expressed in different forms. The best time to learn how to deal with bullying is when you are a child.

I think Marty McFly would agree with me
 

Rainsford

Lifer
Apr 25, 2001
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Too much common sense.

This whole thing almost feels like a reactionary stance against the politicization of bullying. I really don't care for how bullying has been politicized, as it is a part of life from childhood until old age. It is just expressed in different forms. The best time to learn how to deal with bullying is when you are a child.

I think Marty McFly would agree with me

If bullying was just a kids' thing, then kids wouldn't have anywhere to learn it from. But I suspect that in most cases of kids being little punks at school, they learned it from some adult-sized punks at home. And those people don't spend all their time being crappy parents, they go out in the world and act like douche bags to their fellow adults. Learning how to deal with those people is part of life, unfortunately, like you said.
 

bfdd

Lifer
Feb 3, 2007
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the US definition of liberal is inaccurate and retarded.
US "conservatives" are extremely liberal, but they use that word as an insult toward oppositors.

funny, we used to hear that our liberals weren't really liberal, but conservative and our conservatives are ultra conservatives, now it's the complete reverse? me thinks you europeans have no fucking clue what YOU are talking about considering most of your modern governments have followed our trends not vice versa.
 
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spidey is the flip side of crieg. both are fucking nuts (well at least when it comes to politics).

Honestly I don't see the comparison. Craig is passionate but clearly bright - I don't think he is an ideologue. I haven't seen him say anything stupid or outrageous (though it's possible he has and I just haven't seen it). Spidey clearly actually hates liberals and jokes about subjecting them to violence simply based on their views, and openly hates the President.
 

LumbergTech

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Sep 15, 2005
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that makes to much sense.



spidey is the flip side of crieg. both are fucking nuts (well at least when it comes to politics).

I can't say I agree......Craig does have strong opinions that at times (not to the extent that some would like to claim) seem to be heavily tainted by democratic talking points...,but he still doesn't say shit that even approaches the level of crazy that spidey trolls this forum with
 

actuarial

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funny, we used to hear that our liberals weren't really liberal, but conservative and our conservatives are ultra conservatives, now it's the complete reverse? me thinks you europeans have no fucking clue what YOU are talking about considering most of your modern governments have followed our trends not vice versa.

Most people outside the US would say that your democrats aren't really left wing, and your republicans are ultra right wing, if that's what you're talking about.

But you are right in that saying liberal = left wing and conservative = right wing is not a phenomena exclusive to Americans.
 

davmat787

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Nov 30, 2010
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Honestly I don't see the comparison. Craig is passionate but clearly bright - I don't think he is an ideologue. I haven't seen him say anything stupid or outrageous (though it's possible he has and I just haven't seen it). Spidey clearly actually hates liberals and jokes about subjecting them to violence simply based on their views, and openly hates the President.

Compare the bolded with your sig Mr. Don Vito Corleone.




 

bfdd

Lifer
Feb 3, 2007
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Most people outside the US would say that your democrats aren't really left wing, and your republicans are ultra right wing, if that's what you're talking about.

But you are right in that saying liberal = left wing and conservative = right wing is not a phenomena exclusive to Americans.

yeah... left wing politics is the group that contains "liberals" and right wing politics is the group that contains "conservatives". please explain to me how they can be to right wing, but both liberal. That makes no fucking sense so like I said the Europeans should just shut up it just looks stupid.
 

Spikesoldier

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funny, we used to hear that our liberals weren't really liberal, but conservative and our conservatives are ultra conservatives, now it's the complete reverse? me thinks you europeans have no fucking clue what YOU are talking about considering most of your modern governments have followed our trends not vice versa.

sorry but murloc is right. here in the US we have it backwards, to get what the rest of the world is going off of, we got to switch liberal and conservative.

US conservative = liberal anywhere else
US liberal = conservative anywhere else
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Honestly I don't see the comparison. Craig is passionate but clearly bright - I don't think he is an ideologue. I haven't seen him say anything stupid or outrageous (though it's possible he has and I just haven't seen it). Spidey clearly actually hates liberals and jokes about subjecting them to violence simply based on their views, and openly hates the President.

crieg is the flip side of the coin from spidey. both are so blinded by party loyalty they do not care as long as there team wins. no matter the cost
 

Broheim

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yeah... left wing politics is the group that contains "liberals" and right wing politics is the group that contains "conservatives". please explain to me how they can be to right wing, but both liberal. That makes no fucking sense so like I said the Europeans should just shut up it just looks stupid.

a liberal is what you call a libertarian, someone who believes in a small government and lower taxes (to a varying degree of course), personal freedom and responsibility is important to a liberal. historically this ideology was very popular among farmers who had money, they did not see the effects of government like people living in the cities did so why should they pay? A variation of liberalism is social liberalism that was very popular among poor farmers and farmworkers that didn't own land, this is often also called modern liberalism.

a conservative is someone who believes in a strong government, because people are too dumb to know what's good for them (exaggerated but you get the point). the belief is that people simply aren't born equal, some were born to lead and some were born to follow. a conservative is not against change but believes change should happen slowly and organically. this was very popular among factory owners (rich people) in the city.
 

Double Trouble

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Quite the contrary. Zero tolerance was, and is most often championed by Republicans.

Actually, both sides of the spectrum both like and dislike the concept of zero tolerance. It just depends on what undesired activity we're talking about "tolerating". The liberals tend to want to use zero tolerance as an effective hammer to push their political correctness. Conservatives tend to back zero tolerance as it relates to drug use and behavior they find morally unacceptable.

So you end up with stupid zero common sense / zero tolerance policies since both sides like the concept, they just want to apply it to different things.
 

airdata

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Anybody who pretends that contact w\ the genitlals in the context of self defense is " harassment'' shouldn't hold any sort of job. They're idiots and shouldn't be in charge of teaching children.

At least they haven't formally charged him w\ a felony or anything. Although if the story read that way, I wouldn't really be too shocked.
 

MotF Bane

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crieg is the flip side of the coin from spidey. both are so blinded by party loyalty they do not care as long as there team wins. no matter the cost

This. They have so much on common it would scare them to realize it.

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airdata

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Jul 11, 2010
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So Boston public schools represent all public schools in the United States?

Well, alot of public schools are implementing zero tolerance policies in which they just dish out punishments without sitting down and thinking what they're doing.

right or wrong... believe it or not there are circumstances... especially with young children.
 

OutHouse

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Jun 5, 2000
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I feel like serious or long-term violence by kids should be cracked down on, hard. But I think there is value in allowing kids a bit of leeway to be kids when it comes to dealing with bullying. It helps the bullied kids realize that sometimes they have to stick up for themselves and it helps bullies realize that maybe being a giant douche is a bad idea because people might not respond too well to your bullshit.

I know anecdotal evidence isn't always the best source of data, but I remember being a kid. And while fighting back might not always work for everyone, I didn't have a ton of problems with bullies growing up...possibly due to the way I responded somewhat unpleasantly when someone was being an ass to me.

two weeks into this school year i got a call from the jr high. It was the Principal calling to tell me that my son was in a fight and that i had to come to the school. ummm ok so i just happened to take a PTO day so i hop in my car and go to the school.

Turns out that my son finally dealt with a kid that has been bullying him since the 3rd grade. my son had a bad morning, he and his sisters were bickering and he had a dentist appointment so he was in a foul mood that morning.

so the morning goes as planned the dentist appt is over and i take him to school. 30 min after i drop him off this bully corners my son and starts pushing him. my son told him to stop well mr. bully laughs and pushes him into the lockers. well that was it. my son snapped and clocked mr bully 3 times in the face which knocked him down. What does mr bully do? he starts crying and runs to tell a teacher.....

the principal tells me that since my son hit first he is suspended 3 days. I was like WTF lady he defended himself against a bully and put a stop to a situation that has been going on for years.

nope would hear not a word of it. i had to immediately remove my kid from the school property. ok fine so whats going to happen to mr bully? her reply was "well he didnt punch back so nothing" WTF!!!!

Did i punish my kid for this? not on your life. he did what he thought he had to do and he did not start it but he sure as hell finished it. The only thing i would say i did that could be considered punishment in his eyes was making him tell his Tae-Kwan-Do Master what happened.

a funny thing happened when he returned to school after the suspension. he had kids that he didnt really talk to come up to him and said "good job on kicking mr bullys ass"

lol my son had a little cult following for a few days heheheh. this happened back in August and mr bully has not talked to or even thought about messing with my kid anymore.

my son got his red belt on Saturday. so just 2 more belts and he will start on his black.
 
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Pia

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Someone should go and choke out the teacher in question a couple of times since that is all in good fun.
And if they happened to attempt a nut shot to avoid being choked, well, that's a confession of them being a sexual predator.
 
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