707hp 650tq

[Ferzerp]

And then we can tune the Hellcat...

But can you make it lose 600 lbs to weigh the same?

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Yeah, you don't see that in other places like the Royal Family, all of Monaco, Saudi princes or a third world dictator. I'm sure I could go on about how wide spread wretched excess is around the world. Mind you that Bentley, Rolls Royce, Ferrari, Lamborghini and Porsche, and all the 500+ HP AMG, S6/8 and M-Series common from outside the US. Yep, no excess there.

Real Americans don't care what's happening in other countries.

 

[LTC8K6]

But can you make it lose 600 lbs to weigh the same?

More HP can overcome that for drag racing, and the weight helps with traction.

 

[nerp]

I wish they had put this in the Charger.

They will.

 

[nerp]

But can you make it lose 600 lbs to weigh the same?

Sure. Leave the girlfriend out of the car.

 

[LTC8K6]

Sure. Leave the girlfriend out of the car.

You need the weight for those skinny rear tires.

Put the engine in an AWD 8 speed Charger...that will be quite a launcher.

 

[KentState]

You need the weight for those skinny rear tires.

Put the engine in an AWD 8 speed Charger...that will be quite a launcher.

How about a Jeep SRT8?

 

[LTC8K6]

How about a Jeep SRT8?

I mentioned that upthread. It has much better tires, too.

 

[rommelrommel]

You need the weight for those skinny rear tires.

Put the engine in an AWD 8 speed Charger...that will be quite a launcher.

How many launches before that tranny assplodes? Lol

 

[Wingznut]

How many launches before that tranny assplodes? Lol

Why would you assume that the transmission isn't built to handle the motor. (HINT: It is.)

 

[Topweasel]

Not really, no. The advantage is from launching. requiring more shifts does not make a better drag car.

Do you know how many gears purpose built drag cars use? If I recall correctly it is 2. If it were beneficial to add in a bunch of shifts, don't you think they would?

edit: oops. I looked it up. Things like top fuel dragsters don't have a tranny at all. Just a clutch.

Or I said it because its the wonderful ZF tranny that even the staunchest automatic haters are falling in love with. That said whether its the viper 6 speed or the ZF there would be several gear changes between 0 and 120's and I'd trust the ZF to do it faster than i could.

 

[KentState]

How many launches before that tranny assplodes? Lol

It's built to handle the torque. You would be amazed at how well a lot of these autos can handle the power. Buddy has a ~1000 rwhp CTS-V on the stock tranny and has been putting down high 9's lately. The ZF in this car was built to handle even more torque.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7Hx0Tj-FlE

 

[nerp]

How many launches before that tranny assplodes? Lol

Why would you ask that? This isn't a GTR thread. The ZF is bulletproof. And the one mated to the Hellcat is even more robust than the most robust versions used in cars that cost 3x as much.

 

[LTC8K6]

How many launches before that tranny assplodes? Lol

The GC SRT8 already launches pretty hard. A little wheelspin might actually help?

 

[Wingznut]

The results: A blistering 10.85 seconds at 126.18 mph on street-legal drag radials. (It posted an 11.2 at 125 on the stock rubber.) For comparison’s sake, we’ve squeezed 12.3 at 119 from the Camaro ZL1 and 11.8 at 125 from the Shelby GT500. Running a 10-second quarter is a major feat for any car, regardless of power, much less a showroom-spec car.

Link

 

[Kadarin]

I would trade in my existing GC SRT8 for a Hellcat SRT8

Regarding the Challenger, I still think the GT500 looks better. Curious to see how Ford is going to answer this for '15.

 

[DaTT]

I would trade in my existing GC SRT8 for a Hellcat SRT8

Regarding the Challenger, I still think the GT500 looks better. Curious to see how Ford is going to answer this for '15.

If history has shown us anything, SVT doesn't typically release an SVT Mustang for at least 2 years after a complete overhaul of the Mustang.

 

[LTC8K6]

The 2015 Dodge Challenger Hellcat is the most powerful muscle car ever, and Chrysler has priced it at just $60,990, including destination.

https://autos.yahoo.com/news/2015-dodge-challenger-lineup-priced-172906117.html

 

[KeithP]

Of course it's all subjective opinion, but the SRT Challenger is much better looking than the gaudy GT500 (or any other Mustang...)

Agreed. And the difference is even more pronounced when you are sitting behind the wheel. The Mustang dash is just awful.

-KeithP

 

[DaTT]

The 2015 Dodge Challenger Hellcat is the most powerful muscle car ever, and Chrysler has priced it at just $60,990, including destination.

https://autos.yahoo.com/news/2015-dodge-challenger-lineup-priced-172906117.html

This surprises me. I was expecting at least $70k. Looks like Ford has started something here, gobs of power at somewhat affordable pricing.

 

[Naeeldar]

I would trade in my existing GC SRT8 for a Hellcat SRT8

Regarding the Challenger, I still think the GT500 looks better. Curious to see how Ford is going to answer this for '15.

I hope they put this engine into the Charger. Would pick one up in a heart beat.

 

[Topweasel]

I hope they put this engine into the Charger. Would pick one up in a heart beat.

They are planning on it, its like two years or more out. Probably so they can back out of it if this one doesn't do well. But I can't see that happening.

 

[Ferzerp]

Is that pre or post GG tax?

If the 470hp incarnation couldn't get around it, this surely won't (yet Ford did with the GT500).

 

[rommelrommel]

Why would you assume that the transmission isn't built to handle the motor. (HINT: It is.)

I was under the impression that to get AWD you would not get the ZF transmission, my bad.

 

[Topweasel]

I was under the impression that to get AWD you would not get the ZF transmission, my bad.

Well we don't know that what the Trans options are for the Charger Hellcat. My guess is if you even close to right that they won't put AWD on the Charger variant. But they certainly won't be putting this in a car they can't put the Viper manual or the ZF 8 speed in because yeah otherwise blown trannies at every corner and stop light.