707hp 650tq

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Yikes. Does it come stock with drag radials to make an attempt at traction?



Love the different colored key fob option to unlock beast mode.
 

BUTCH1

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Here's a vid that shows the main LCD screen and all it;s capable of, pretty much everything is customizable, the gauges, the transmission shift points, you name it. Probably gonna take a new owner a bit to figure all that out!, 707HP is a lot of power for a production machine one can only imagine what you insurance co. will have to say about the cost of coverage for this beast!..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vvvAooT2Js
 

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Why? Just why? That takes all the fun out of doing the work yourself. I'd have a much greater appreciation of the car if I made it that fast, but buying it stock with that much power should be reserved for a nicer car than a dodge.
 

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I'm loving the AAR 'Cuda hood scoop.

Tach shows a redline of 5600 rpm. Not much for revs this beast.
 
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Ferzerp

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707/650 and 4350+ lbs or 662/630 and 3850 lbs... The choice isn't difficult. Challenger is far too piggy (I say that as an ex owner of one)

(OK for me 650/650 and undisclosed weight as of yet, but it is safe to assume it will still turn ).
 

BUTCH1

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Why? Just why? That takes all the fun out of doing the work yourself. I'd have a much greater appreciation of the car if I made it that fast, but buying it stock with that much power should be reserved for a nicer car than a dodge.

Easy question to answer, some people don't get "fun" from wrenching, don't care about how much it costs and want a warranty if something breaks. I'm with you in that I would have a much better appreciation if I built it up myself but not everyone is skilled enough or have enough spare time to do so.
 

BUTCH1

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I'm loving the AAR 'Cuda hood scoop.

Tach shows a redline of 5600 rpm. Not much for revs this beast.

Yea, I saw that too, it is a pushrod motor when all is said, it's OK, I have one but GM re-named it for me, it's now called "cam in block" technology.
 

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Yea, I saw that too, it is a pushrod motor when all is said, it's OK, I have one but GM re-named it for me, it's now called "cam in block" technology.

Did some research on this. Dodge puts the tach redline 200 rpm below the engine redline. Still I don't know why it is so low. The supercharged lsa chev has the same redline as the LS3, so does the Mustang offerings. The 392 has the same redline as the chev, 6200.

The massive valves are the limiting factor for the chev engines, I can't find any info about the valve sizes in the Hellcat.
 

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The 6.4 has 2.13" intake valves. The 6.2 ls3 has 2.16". Both are hollow stem to reduce weight. I wonder why the redline is so low on this engine?
 

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The only people driving this are going to be balding fat retirees bragging how they can smoke "dem eurotrash" at stoplights.
 

BUTCH1

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Did some research on this. Dodge puts the tach redline 200 rpm below the engine redline. Still I don't know why it is so low. The supercharged lsa chev has the same redline as the LS3, so does the Mustang offerings. The 392 has the same redline as the chev, 6200.

The massive valves are the limiting factor for the chev engines, I can't find any info about the valve sizes in the Hellcat.

One would think that this type of high performance engine would have more than 2 valves per cylinder but IDK either..
 

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One would think that this type of high performance engine would have more than 2 valves per cylinder but IDK either..


Why exactly? Or have you bought in to the "herp derp pushrods suck" hype? The produce different characteristics, but certainly aren't inferior. You get less power per liter of displacement (which is an utterly meaningless metric unless you buy insurance in one of the backwards countries that bases it on displacement). You (typically, but not necessarily. LT1 seems to do ok mileagewise) get worse mileage. You typically get more power and torque in a given physical volume as well as a lighter, lower center of gravity engine.

It's all about what is important for a given application, but frankly, pretending that an OHV engine is automatically inferior to an OHC engine is pure ignorance.
 

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700+ on the dyno
Only 400 usable on the street.
200hp after safety nannies kick in
100hp usable in front of cop\speed camera.

This is a car made for men to impress other men and drag strips and parking lots.

I still approve.
 

BUTCH1

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700+ on the dyno
Only 400 usable on the street.
200hp after safety nannies kick in
100hp usable in front of cop\speed camera.

This is a car made for men to impress other men and drag strips and parking lots.

I still approve.

And there is still the insurance thing, they always beat-up high performance cars, God only knows what the rates will be for this beast..
 

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Worst handling car in its class? Check!
Most power in its class? Check!
Brand most likely to be driven by aging alcoholics? Check!

The real question with this car is whether the owners will crash them before they encounter some of that legendary Dodge "reliability."

Not saying I would say no to one as a rental, though.
 

Squeetard

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Why exactly? Or have you bought in to the "herp derp pushrods suck" hype? The produce different characteristics, but certainly aren't inferior. You get less power per liter of displacement (which is an utterly meaningless metric unless you buy insurance in one of the backwards countries that bases it on displacement). You (typically, but not necessarily. LT1 seems to do ok mileagewise) get worse mileage. You typically get more power and torque in a given physical volume as well as a lighter, lower center of gravity engine.

It's all about what is important for a given application, but frankly, pretending that an OHV engine is automatically inferior to an OHC engine is pure ignorance.

I could not have said this better myself. OHC is better above 8,000 rpm, which what it was invented for for. The extra weight and complexity is not needed below that and pure marketing hype. I would not want to own a 5.0 litre coyote outside of warranty.
My friend owns a 2012 Mustang vert. It will cost him 4x as much as my 6.2 chev to change cams.
 
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