Ok, I never thought it would be priced that low. To me, that says Chrysler is getting aggressive in the market and I like it. I'd love to see this end up in the grand Cherokee.
Ok, I never thought it would be priced that low. To me, that says Chrysler is getting aggressive in the market and I like it. I'd love to see this end up in the grand Cherokee.
Ok, I never thought it would be priced that low. To me, that says Chrysler is getting aggressive in the market and I like it. I'd love to see this end up in the grand Cherokee.
Now all we need to complete the cycle is a $60k ZR1. Huge affordable power from the big 3.
I can appreciate all the mopar haters, but you have to give it to dodge driving a stake into these outrageously priced cars. IMHO, by them pricing the hellcat like this, it shoves a big middle finger up the asses of the rest of Detroit! It's challenging them to play the price and power game all over again.
I can appreciate all the mopar haters, but you have to give it to dodge driving a stake into these outrageously priced cars. IMHO, by them pricing the hellcat like this, it shoves a big middle finger up the asses of the rest of Detroit! It's challenging them to play the price and power game all over again.
I believe Ford started this trend with the Shelby
Why exactly? Or have you bought in to the "herp derp pushrods suck" hype? The produce different characteristics, but certainly aren't inferior. You get less power per liter of displacement (which is an utterly meaningless metric unless you buy insurance in one of the backwards countries that bases it on displacement). You (typically, but not necessarily. LT1 seems to do ok mileagewise) get worse mileage. You typically get more power and torque in a given physical volume as well as a lighter, lower center of gravity engine.
It's all about what is important for a given application, but frankly, pretending that an OHV engine is automatically inferior to an OHC engine is pure ignorance.
I disagree. I think GM started it with the LS1 and it's all been brewing between the big three since.
No, not ZL1, I mean the good old touched by the hand of god LS1 that started a lot of these horsepower wars. Without he LS1 coming into the Corvette, Firebird and Camaro, Ford likely wouldn't have come out with the revamped 5.0 motor nor spent as much time revamping the Mustang. After the Mustang started to take off, GM came back with the revamped Camaro then Chrysler had to get into the mix win the Charger and Challenger. Now Chrysler just decided to throw up a big FUCK YOU to Ford and GM by throwing down their nuts right on the table and telling them to kiss it.
I'm pushing 45k miles on my 2012 Charger and not one issue. Everyone else I know who has bought a Chrysler after 2011 has similarly had zero issues.
106k on my 2006 Charger. Tie-rods being the only issue besides normal wear and tear. And I drove it fairly hard for the first 50k.
I don't think the Hellcat is a very big Fuck You to Ford. Ford has its big boy
I love wretched excess! It's an American Icon. They should offer an all chrome option.
Afaik, nobody else offers an off the showroom floor power level like this. I believe this will get Ford and GM both to play in the power wars again and we get or reap the rewards.
You can't really believe that 662hp isn't in the same ballpark as 707....also the Shelby is less expensive. And the torque numbers are quite comparable.
If I were a betting man, out of the showroom and onto the track, the Hellcat would be outperformed.
Few care about that.
700 Horses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Exactly, MOAR!!!!!You get it.
No one is going to drive this thing at it's limit. Most aren't capable of using half of it's potential, but thats not what sells it. Conspicuous consumption is what it's all about.
see below.....You can't really believe that 662hp isn't in the same ballpark as 707....also the Shelby is less expensive. And the torque numbers are quite comparable.
If I were a betting man, out of the showroom and onto the track, the Hellcat would be outperformed.
Few care about that.
700 Horses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What this means is that 2020 or so if the EPA and CAFE laws don't screw me over I could a 550-600HP beast for $45k or less.Exactly, MOAR!!!!!
see below.....
exactly, it's all about the marketing. You can bet your bottom dollar that Ford went back to engineering and said squeeze at least 725 out of the next motor. They'll kick the price to 61k and toss it out there with 725 to be the new king. We can only hope GM comes in and says WAHOO here's 750!! Then the battles are ON LIKE DONKEY KONG!
Exactly, MOAR!!!!!
see below.....
exactly, it's all about the marketing. You can bet your bottom dollar that Ford went back to engineering and said squeeze at least 725 out of the next motor. They'll kick the price to 61k and toss it out there with 725 to be the new king. We can only hope GM comes in and says WAHOO here's 750!! Then the battles are ON LIKE DONKEY KONG!
Yeah, but then in a month or so, every 750hp car that GM releases will be recalled.