7500 3Dmark2001 with Abit KR7A, 1700MHz XP and 245/545 GF3 Ti200???

[carma]

OK, someone please help me out here. I'm getting a lowly 7500 in 3Dmark2001, and here's my rockin system:

Abit KR7A w/ Athlon XP 1800+ @ 148x11.5= 1702MHz
Gainward Geforce3 Powerpack Ti200 Golden Sample @ 245/545
512 MB (2x256 MB) Crucial Registered DDR RAM @ CAS2
Adaptec Ultra160
2 Quantum Altas 10k II's (9.1 and 18 gig)
Water cooled everything: CPU, VIA kt266A chipset and Nvidia GF3 Ti200
average CPU temp 35C idle, 40C full load
OS: Windows XP
Drivers: Via 4in1 version 4.36
Nvidia Windows XP version 23.11

I also have an Epox EP-8K7a which has a 1.4 Athlon running at 1.6 gig and I got almost a 8000 in 3Dmark2001. I just don't understand, the new Abit board is running a higher bus speed and the GF3 Ti200 is running at higher speeds as well. It Doesn't make sense, after upgrading to the new KR7A and Athlon XP running at 1700MHz, and boosting the Ti200 clock about 10-20 MHz higher I actually lost 500 points in 3Dmark2001. Could this be a driver issue? I had the same Nvidia drivers installed for the Ti200 before I swapped out the boards. Any ideas? Thanks.

 

[darth maul]

That sounds like an odd one...

When you built this PC, you reformated? do you have non-registered RAM that you can sub in? Ummmmmmm, I donna know....

 

[DragonFire]

Id like to know how anyone and including you are getting 7500+ with a TB 1.4


The highest I can get is 71xx and thats with a TB 1.4 @ 1.65 (150MHz FSB) and a geforce3 at 220/540. Useing the 23.11 drivers.....sigh

 

[Smbu]

<< Id like to know how anyone and including you are getting 7500+ with a TB 1.4


The highest I can get is 71xx and thats with a TB 1.4 @ 1.65 (150MHz FSB) and a geforce3 at 220/540. Useing the 23.11 drivers.....sigh >>



It's very easy to get +7500. With my old 1.4@1.57ghz Tbird the highest score I got was 8533. With my current Athlon XP, I've been able to get +9100.

With my old GF3 Ti200 and Athlon I was able to get +7500.

 

[carma]

Yup, reformated on NTFS Atlas 10k II, Windows XP. Yeah, this is a major bummer, thinking of swapping out motherboard again to see what this Athlon XP and GF3 Ti200 will do on my Epox board. I don't have any non-Registered DDR. should I try taking out some PCI cards (SB Live!, NIC, TVtuner card)?

 

[chizow]

8791 here with some OCing and tweaking.

Posted the score and link b/c my specs are very similar to yours, even the FSB and Card OC's. I'd try changing some options in your BIOS, checking to make sure AGP is at 4X and try messing with your aperture size. 128MB seems to be the best setting on mine. Also, I have all my RAM settings to the fastest/most aggressive with Cas2 and 4-way interleave enabled. Switching drivers or DirectX version's didn't do much for me, but the 23.11's look funky. The biggest difference was messing with AGP settings and a big boost (@600) from going from 146FSB to 147. The rest were results from sheer system/card OC's.

Chiz

 

[DragonFire]

I dont think its easy at all.......I just dont wonder if XP is to blame.....

 

[carma]

Thanks for the input. I have done almost everything you mentioned, besides maybe changing to an older Nvidia driver. Perhaps I'll install my Gainward retail drivers I have on CD and see what happens. Also, I have not installed DirectX 8.1 because I thought it was standard on Windows XP, is this wrong?

 

[darth maul]

3DMark 2001 compare

Ya carma should be getting higher results. Mine are from a ECS 7S5A, 1.4TB, and a visiontek gf3 ti200 at 220core 541mem. I come back to memory, but maybe I am just wrong on that. Always thought registered is a lower performing for benchmarks. But if he was getting 8000 on another system.....oh I just don't know. Ya maybe start pulling cards and see if that helps. Leave the sound card in though....

 

[skrill]

I don't know what could be causing your low scores.

On my rig (see below) -- which is similar to yours except I use a Radeon -- I pulled 8400 with everthing at default (including CPU and vid card speed). By tweaking the memory timing I got up to 8600. Overclocked (both CPU and Vid card) I pulled a 9603 with 3dMark2k1 at default settings.

I did notice that using Windows XP (I have a dual boot rig) dropped my score by 100 points.

BTW, I didn't know that 4.36 4-in-1's are out.

 

[carma]

Damn, that is really aggravating, your score is like 2000 more than mine. I guess the only way to figure it out is to do endless troubleshooting, ack.

 

[bjc112]

i get 7011..

 

[KentState]

I was able to score around 7400 with my setup. Changing the aperture to 128 mb seemed to help a lot as well as enabling fast writes. Your 1702mhz compared to my 1530 mhz should give you about 300 more points at least and if you are running your card at 245/545 you should also go up 300 more. Then you add in your MB and you should be close to 8200 IMO.

 

[bevo]

I've got a kr7a no-raid, amd 1800+, 256k crucial, evga G3 ti200 @ 230/515, win98se at stock FSB getting 8737 3dmarks...

 

[carma]

Well... I think I'm going to try all of the above and also change the OS to WinME.

 

[Dimitri]

Hmmm, I got a decent score in XP with my wimpy fsb overclock. XP does decent in 3dmark2k1, though 98se does a little better.

My 3DMark2K1

 

[carma]

Yeah, I wish someone could lead me in the right direction, this is totally disappointing. I did however change a couple things in the BIOS and optimized here and there and was able to pull a 7800, still subpar considering my system.

 

[MicroEngineer]

I seem to be having the same problem as you. Take a look at my rig in the sig. I've been trying for days to reproduce the results that they got over at HardOCP. No luck.

 

[skrill]

Here are my list of KR7A optimizations.

Use the Ultra Decode setting.

Use these mem settings: Cas 2, 2-5-5, 1t command, and 2 level (whatever)

Use these AGP settings: 128MB Aperture, 4x AGP (I still have not tried enabling fast writes).

I am running now at 159 x 11.5 (1833 mhz). I pulled 9275 last night without O/C'ing my vid card.

 

[The Reaper]

I had the same problem and found out FSAA keep enabling itself everytime I rebooted. Why it keeps renabling itself I have no clue. Check it next time before you bench.

 

[carma]

Looks like my score is up there now. I pulled a 8700 after installing some new 2400 DDR RAM (512 MB). Apparently my Crucial Registered DDR RAM doesn't like the 2-5-2 Precharge and CMD settings, although it does do CAS2. One other thing, my FSB is only at 142 MHz right now because I want to O/C the video card, and I've found the system does weird stuff after about 145 MHz. I'm going to unlock the 1800+ and probably get it to 1800 MHz or so. That 159 FSB is really making your system fly skrill. Thanks for suggesting the non-registered DDR darth maul .

 

[darth maul]

8700 looking much better a? Ya, get that chip unlocked, and you'll be hitting 9000+ hopefully.

 

[carma]

New score, 8871. WOW, what an improvement! Right now my setup is as follows:

Abit KR7A
Gainward Ti450 @ 255/545
Athlon XP 1800+ 12.5 X 140 = 1755 MHz (unlocked it)
New Via 4in1 4.37a
Nvidia XP drivers 23.11

I think If I run my bus at like 148 or 150 I can go into the 9000's with 3Dmark2001. I Really want stability though, and I can live with this score, it's good. Anyone have any thoughts, recommendations? Thanks.