780/770 sales appear slow

[OILFIELDTRASH]

I don't have access to hard numbers but since launch I've seen numerous 780's and now 770's in stock at all retailers. I'm use to seeing cards out of stock for weeks when the next gen is released. Is it now confirmed that the 7xx series was a flop?

 

[bunnyfubbles]

so your litmus test is "i see cards in stock, failure" vs. "i don't see cards in stock, success"

is this a joke?

 

[Conscript]

To further support this theory, I did not run out and buy one on day 1, therefore it must be a failure

 

[BDawg]

All the ones I want are out of stock on Amazon Prime.

 

[RussianSensation]

On the 770 front, some of them are selling out on Newegg. Granted, this level of performance was available for about $470 in retail when after-market HD7970GE's launched in July of 2012. In the last 12-18 months a lot of people have already purchased HD7970/670/680s. How many individuals are left to buy a GTX770 12-15 months after GTX680/7970GE came out for $400-450? Whoever is left obviously doesn't follow the GPU market closely or upgrades on refreshes instead of on new nodes immediately. These gamers may be sitting on GTX285/GTX570/HD6970 then but in that case since they upgrade every 2-4 years, it doesn't make sense for them to buy a card with only 2GB of VRAM. That puts GTX770 4GB at $450, which is hardly cheap for what is essentially 1 year old 28nm NV tech or 1.5 year old 28nm gen tech.

780 is probably selling well though since overclocked it can come within 5% of the overclocked Titan for $350 less.

Without actual sales figures, it's difficult to estimate how well these cards are selling. Personally, I wouldn't buy HD7970GE or GTX770 at $400 today. These prices are outrages for what essentially is a performance level of a January 2012 HD7970 @ 1.05-1.1ghz or a March 2012 GTX680 with a mild overclock. Buying 28nm tech for $400 with this level of performance is just as wasteful as spending $400-450 of your money on a GTX580 near the end of its life.

I wonder if for the next series NV will stay conservative and wait another 12 months to launch a 550mm2 Maxwell? If NV releases the large die Maxwell right away, then we'd be looking at 50%+ more performance over the 780 by possibly summer of 2014. That would be spectacular.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

so your litmus test is "i see cards in stock, failure" vs. "i don't see cards in stock, success"

is this a joke?

Having stock on shelves for a "new" tech product is typically a bad sign. It's not hard to pick up on the demand if one is not too dense.

 

[Schmeh39]

I don't have access to hard numbers but since launch I've seen numerous 780's and now 770's in stock at all retailers. I'm use to seeing cards out of stock for weeks when the next gen is released. Is it now confirmed that the 7xx series was a flop?

Absolutely!! No need to wait for sales figures, or financial results from Nvidia. Since there are still some in stock online, the 7xx is without a doubt the biggest flop in tech history!

 

[Smoblikat]

On the 770 front, some of them are selling out on Newegg. Granted, this level of performance was available for about $470 in retail when after-market HD7970GE's launched in July of 2012. In the last 12-18 months a lot of people have already purchased HD7970/670/680s. How many individuals are left to buy a GTX770 12-15 months after GTX680/7970GE came out for $400-450? Whoever is left obviously doesn't follow the GPU market closely or upgrades on refreshes instead of on new nodes immediately. These gamers may be sitting on GTX285/GTX570/HD6970 then but in that case since they upgrade every 2-4 years, it doesn't make sense for them to buy a card with only 2GB of VRAM. That puts GTX770 4GB at $450, which is hardly cheap for what is essentially 1 year old 28nm NV tech or 1.5 year old 28nm gen tech.

780 is probably selling well though since overclocked it can come within 5% of the overclocked Titan for $350 less.

Without actual sales figures, it's difficult to estimate how well these cards are selling. Personally, I wouldn't buy HD7970GE or GTX770 at $400 today. These prices are outrages for what essentially is a performance level of a January 2012 HD7970 @ 1.05-1.1ghz or a March 2012 GTX680 with a mild overclock. Buying 28nm tech for $400 with this level of performance is just as wasteful as spending $400-450 of your money on a GTX580 near the end of its life.

I wonder if for the next series NV will stay conservative and wait another 12 months to launch a 550mm2 Maxwell? If NV releases the large die Maxwell right away, then we'd be looking at 50%+ more performance over the 780 by possibly summer of 2014. That would be spectacular.

The only way that can happen is if people vote with their wallets. I think nvidia is making it extremely easy to do so, with a 650$ launch MSRP of the 780.

 

[Ben90]

Find me an EVGA 770 SC with a blower please.

 

[Lepton87]

780 is probably selling well though since overclocked it can come within 5% of the overclocked Titan for $350 less.

That's only a generalization, my Titan doesn't OC at all and even EVGA 780SC is faster then it so OCed 780 can be faster then OCed Titan depending on the sample, but it's far more likely that titan will end up faster. Aftermarket 780 are already faster then Titan and that's what counts since most people don't OC.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Find me an EVGA 770 SC with a blower please.

You have trouble overclocking video cards?

 

[Lepton87]

You have trouble overclocking video cards?

Maybe he wants TriSLI? I had QuadFire with three cards, two of witch had open air coolers and it's a pain in the ass to make it work. It's a shame NV does not allow that, or Titan+780 oh, well, their lost.

 

[Ben90]

You have trouble overclocking video cards?

I don't want 200W dumped into the case that will affect my CPU overclock. I really don't care about GPU performance enough to justify overclocking, since I run pretty much everything on minimum except native resolution.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Maybe he wants TriSLI? I had QuadFire with three cards, two of witch had open air coolers and it's a pain in the ass to make it work. It's a shame NV does not allow that, or Titan+780 oh, well, their lost.

He cant overclock a reference board with the blower design?

I just never got the evga ftw bestest editionz. With evga you better have a receipt with fingerprint and DNA samples to get a rma completed. With Asus or gigabyte it was as simple as calling the rma dept and sending the hardware in.

 

[Ben90]

I just never got the evga ftw bestest editionz.

Better price performance.

*edit*

Actually just find me any blower card that is priced inline with the rest of the 770 family.

 

[f1sherman]

Having stock on shelves for a "new" tech product is typically a bad sign.

Idd...
It's typical Nvidia, they flop all the time.

And here we have another winning product from the company that's bleeding cash faster than gazelle on the Serengeti amidst a pride of lions
:sneaky:

 

[willomz]

He cant overclock a reference board with the blower design?

I just never got the evga ftw bestest editionz. With evga you better have a receipt with fingerprint and DNA samples to get a rma completed. With Asus or gigabyte it was as simple as calling the rma dept and sending the hardware in.

The reference models are the ones that are out of stock, they must have been selling well. Or perhaps all the coolers got used up on 780 cards..

 

[SlowSpyder]

Find me an EVGA 770 SC with a blower please.

I don't know what kind of case you run, but for whatever it is worth, I never noticed any change in CPU temp whether I had a blower style card or not. All things considered, dumping the heat out of the case is obviously better, but in practice it seems if you have decent airflow it doesn't really make much difference. At least that has been my experience.

 

[wand3r3r]

Hard said there's 10k or was it less 770s with Titan coolers and that's it.

I guess they had 10k extra being people are probably not buying as many of the gouging cards $650-1000 so they'll burn up the extra coolers on the 770.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Good shits been too expensive for the last 2 years.

 

[imaheadcase]

Having stock on shelves for a "new" tech product is typically a bad sign. It's not hard to pick up on the demand if one is not too dense.

You have clearly never worked in retail or sales.

 

[lagokc]

Having stock on shelves for a "new" tech product is typically a bad sign. It's not hard to pick up on the demand if one is not too dense.

Given this is a tweaked 680 and not a new product, nVidia should already have excellent yields and be able to produce as many as are predicted to be sold. Additionally the $400 graphics segment is a very small part of the market that nVidia should have no trouble filling the demand for.

 

[SirPauly]

These prices are outrages for what essentially is a performance level of a January 2012 HD7970 @ 1.05-1.1ghz or a March 2012 GTX680 with a mild overclock.

The price of the HD 7970 was 549 and the GTX 680 was 499!

The GTX 770 can over-clock, too.

 

[SirPauly]

The only way that can happen is if people vote with their wallets. I think nvidia is making it extremely easy to do so, with a 650$ launch MSRP of the 780.

Sure, and offering more price/performance value than the HD7970 and HD 7970ghz!

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GeForce_GTX_770_WindForce_OC/29.html

 

[Rezist]

So when TPU does these graphs which prices are they going by?
It'd be nice if they would supply clocks/prices for how they get there score.