7800GTX 512MB Coming out!!!!

[lifeguard1999]

Link @ theInq

 

[videoclone]

Bring on G80 ... aarrmm 7800GTX with 512mb's .. bahh humbug

 

[DRavisher]

It'll be interesting to see if it is generally available before the x1800xt. It may even be broadly available over here in Norway before the x1800xl.

 

[nRollo]

Even if they are the same speed, presumably the vendors already factory OCing (XFX, Leadtek, Asus, EVGA, BFG) will continue to do so.

I think a 490/1300 512MB GTX would be the card to get for Christmas, in light of the better multi gpu, cooler, smaller, 24 vs 16 pipes, etc..

Have to say I'm impressed, nV just keeps taking it to ATI- the resulting competition can only benefit all in the long run.

 

[biostud]

personally I would wait for next generation before shelling out for 512Mb memory.

 

[lexmark]

wow, nv is on the ball this year!

 

[CP5670]

Is there supposed to be an Ultra card that's different from this or are they the same thing?

 

[Dainas]

It had better use memory quicker than 1.6ns! Something like 1.4ns would be more appropriate and make it so the cost dont skyrocket. How ATI says their XT with 512mb/1.2ns will be priced at $550 and keep a straight face is beyond me.

Using Samsung BJ11(1.8GHZ/1.1ns) would make for a godly G70 in performance and price ; ; ..not that I'm buying a new card for a long time.

 

[Acanthus]

Isnt G72 coming very soon? I would avoid buying a 512MB G70 now even if my budget was that high.

 

[Ackmed]

Originally posted by: Rollo


I think a 490/1300 512MB GTX would be the card to get for Christmas, in light of the better multi gpu, cooler, smaller, 24 vs 16 pipes, etc..

We havent had a review for the X1k cards in Crossfire, so how can you say better multi GPU?

Cooler? There arent any official drivers for the XT yet. A beta version of ATi tools has a temp of about 20c lower than the drivers are giving. Perhaps its right, perhaps not. We dont know yet.

Smaller? They are the same length. Yes the XT is dual slot, the cards themselves are the same size.

24v16 pipes? Who cares? As anyone can see, the XT is very competitive with the GTX, being overall faster most of the time.

Why dont you mention all the things that the XT has over the GTX? So one sided as usual, sigh.

 

[amheck]

I'm just still in awe of reading something like this in the article.

"But still hope remains, as ATI seems to be the new king of Open GL. So if you like Doom 3 and Quake 4 you might want to wait for ATI."

 

[imported_Amuro]

Originally posted by: Ackmed

Originally posted by: Rollo


I think a 490/1300 512MB GTX would be the card to get for Christmas, in light of the better multi gpu, cooler, smaller, 24 vs 16 pipes, etc..

We havent had a review for the X1k cards in Crossfire, so how can you say better multi GPU?

Cooler? There arent any official drivers for the XT yet. A beta version of ATi tools has a temp of about 20c lower than the drivers are giving. Perhaps its right, perhaps not. We dont know yet.

Smaller? They are the same length. Yes the XT is dual slot, the cards themselves are the same size.

24v16 pipes? Who cares? As anyone can see, the XT is very competitive with the GTX, being overall faster most of the time.

Why dont you mention all the things that the XT has over the GTX? So one sided as usual, sigh.

Gibbo @ Overclockers UK posted the following in their forum (the thread was already deleted however):

The fact is that this time round NVIDIA have completely destroyed ATI as SLi is so much better established and you don't need a master card for it to work. Plus the 7800 series is the far better buy and was available on June 22nd, ATI are still struggling and were now approaching November. On November 7th OcUK will be launch partner with NVIDIA on the new faster clocked 512MB 7800 GTX which will furth establish NVIDIA as performance leader and OcUK will have priority allocation on 512MB cards which could also mean we have exclusivity and unlike ATI NVIDIA will be shipping plenty of stock throughout November. So basically what is the point of ATI's X1800 XT, NVIDIA will have a better product with availability sooner and no doubt for less money too.

 

[crazydingo]

As far as we know this card won't have different clock speeds from its 256MB brother but this could easily change.

And I was attacked & flamed for suggesting the same. Rollo, keysplayer2003 & others. :roll:

 

[Dainas]

That is if Nvidia thinks and puts better spec'd memory on the 512mb version.. If their really smart they will switch to dual slot cooling to get the core working well past 500mhz. But if the INQ is right, this card will prob be a repeat of the 512mb versions of the 6800U/x800xl.

 

[RampantAndroid]

It will be clocked the same, I'll bet on it...esp since a single slot cooling solution is what everyone has wanted to see from nvidia as of late. If you want higher clock speeds, and the heatsink will do it for ya, go buy a VF700.

I got my GT up to 460MHz core, and negligible heat increases, with stock cooling.

Not that 512mb has any advntage right now....the previous 512 cards showed that...not even Far Cry used it...

 

[imported_Amuro]

Originally posted by: Dainas
That is if Nvidia thinks and puts better spec'd memory on the 512mb version.. If their really smart they will switch to dual slot cooling to get the core working well past 500mhz. But if the INQ is right, this card will prob be a repeat of the 512mb versions of the 6800U/x800xl.

Nvidia has ordered some super fast 1.2ns memory from Samsung earlier.

 

[imported_Amuro]

Originally posted by: RampantAndroid
It will be clocked the same, I'll bet on it...esp since a single slot cooling solution is what everyone has wanted to see from nvidia as of late. If you want higher clock speeds, and the heatsink will do it for ya, go buy a VF700.

I got my GT up to 460MHz core, and negligible heat increases, with stock cooling.

Not that 512mb has any advntage right now....the previous 512 cards showed that...not even Far Cry used it...

Well, if you want to play Quake 4 @ ultra quality you need 512MB.

 

[Ackmed]

Originally posted by: Amuro

Gibbo @ Overclockers UK posted the following in their forum (the thread was already deleted however):

The fact is that this time round NVIDIA have completely destroyed ATI as SLi is so much better established and you don't need a master card for it to work. Plus the 7800 series is the far better buy and was available on June 22nd, ATI are still struggling and were now approaching November. On November 7th OcUK will be launch partner with NVIDIA on the new faster clocked 512MB 7800 GTX which will furth establish NVIDIA as performance leader and OcUK will have priority allocation on 512MB cards which could also mean we have exclusivity and unlike ATI NVIDIA will be shipping plenty of stock throughout November. So basically what is the point of ATI's X1800 XT, NVIDIA will have a better product with availability sooner and no doubt for less money too. [/quote][/quote]

And? We all know the 7800's are cheaper right now. Im questioning the "better multi gpu" comment, among others. And the "fact is" that we have yet to see a X1K Crossfire review yet. So its a little early to be calling a winner. I do think that the X800 Crossfire solution is pretty poor, for more people. But this isnt about that.

Originally posted by: Amuro
Well, if you want to play Quake 4 @ ultra quality you need 512MB.

Hows that? The FS article shows the GTX playing it very well, same for the GT, and XL. I cant see any difference in the screen shots.

 

[Dainas]

Originally posted by: Ackmed

Originally posted by: Amuro
Well, if you want to play Quake 4 @ ultra quality you need 512MB.

Hows that? The FS article shows the GTX playing it very well, same for the GT, and XL. I cant see any difference in the screen shots.

Its ether due to me not having enough system ram, or that it actualy needs 500mb of vram.... but I get hiccups all the times playing singleplayer UQ.. the framerate is skyhigh when its nots skipping.

 

[nitromullet]

Originally posted by: crazydingo

As far as we know this card won't have different clock speeds from its 256MB brother but this could easily change.

And I was attacked & flamed for suggesting the same. Rollo, keysplayer2003 & others. :roll:

No, you were flamed because you implied that it was not possible for NV to build a GTX with a core at 490 and memory equalling that of the memory on the X1800XT. Clearly a GTX core can run reliably at 490 (I have two of them), and obviously NV could use the same RAM as ATI. I think all us explained this to you quite thoroughly at the time, do you get it now?

 

[wahoyaho]

because we know the inquirer is never wrong and never lies

 

[nitromullet]

Originally posted by: Dainas

Originally posted by: Ackmed

Originally posted by: Amuro
Well, if you want to play Quake 4 @ ultra quality you need 512MB.

Hows that? The FS article shows the GTX playing it very well, same for the GT, and XL. I cant see any difference in the screen shots.

Its ether due to me not having enough system ram, or that it actualy needs 500mb of vram.... but I get hiccups all the times playing singleplayer UQ.. the framerate is skyhigh when its nots skipping.

This is true... I don't know why though. Even when set to Ultra, many of the textures in Q4 look like crap. What are they doing? Making the already hi-res textures higher and leaving the low-res ones low? Whatever they did, it doesn't make any sense IMO... The game doesn't look noticably better with Ultra selected, but it does play noticably worse.

Edit: I have 2GB of system RAM and I get stutters with Ultra selected, so I think that the 256MB of vRAM is the culprit.

 

[crazydingo]

Originally posted by: nitromullet

Originally posted by: crazydingo

As far as we know this card won't have different clock speeds from its 256MB brother but this could easily change.

And I was attacked & flamed for suggesting the same. Rollo, keysplayer2003 & others. :roll:

No, you were flamed because you implied that it was not possible for NV to build a GTX with a core at 490 and memory equalling that of the memory on the X1800XT. Clearly a GTX core can run reliably at 490 (I have two of them), and obviouly NV could use the same RAM as ATI. I think all us explained this to you quite thoroughly at the time, do you get it now?

I gave my reasoning for that also. Will Nvidia clock high which means they need better yeilds = reducing profit margins or simply provide a similar clocked 512MB board requiring similar yeilds maintaining same big ass profit margins.

One vendor ocing to a specific clock does not make it an industry standard. Other vendors had to use different cooling solutions for the same clocks which I consider the industry standard.

Get it now ?

 

[BenSkywalker]

And? We all know the 7800's are cheaper right now. Im questioning the "better multi gpu" comment, among others. And the "fact is" that we have yet to see a X1K Crossfire review yet.

Wouldn't the fact that there is no X1K Crossfire previews available yet, by default, indicate that the widely available for a long time nV multi GPU route is proven to be superior as of right now? I can only assume that it would take an idiot to come to any other conclusion.

For the record- I'm currently waiting to purchase an 1800XL Crossfire setup once they are a viable option- but that need not make me in to a blind raging fanatic.

Cooler? There arent any official drivers for the XT yet.

New supercool ATi drivers are going to chill that 600MHZ plus part to below that of the GTX- does that require phase changing drivers or simply water cooled? In all seriousness, there is no way they are going to get the heat levels of the 1800xt below that of the GTX. Not that I personally care in the least one way or the other.

Why dont you mention all the things that the XT has over the GTX?

Did I miss something, this thread seemed to be about the 7800GTX- not the 1xK series of parts.

So one sided as usual, sigh.

Can you avoid trolling please? The moderators have asked explicitly. Rollo made a comment about the GTX in a thread about the GTX- he didn't ask for the fanatics to p!mp the parts they are lusting in this thread about a nVidia board.

 

[Elfear]

Hmmm. We'll have to see how Nvidia's new card stacks up against the competition. Hopefully the extra 256Mb will be worth it.