7800GTX.... I AM IMPRESSED!!!!!!!!!!

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BenSkywalker

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I doubt anyone plays at that resolution even now
Most people here have LCD's and even if your CRT monitor supports such high resolutions the refresh rates would be terrible.

My CRT pushes 85Hz(actually 86Hz, but consumer vid cards don't) running 2048x1536. We aren't talking about LCDs here, these monitors don't suck.
 

deadseasquirrel

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Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
My CRT pushes 85Hz(actually 86Hz, but consumer vid cards don't) running 2048x1536. We aren't talking about LCDs here, these monitors don't suck.

:thumbsup: Same here with my NEC 2070sb.
 

exdeath

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I want to wait for ATI's move so nVidia puts ALL their cards on the table (ie: 7800 Ultra SLI)

Also thinking about a 2405FPW display too. Those cards in SLI should do native 1920x1200 easy!

Oh and my F500-R can do 2048 x 1536 at 85 Hrz
 

imported_BikeDude

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Originally posted by: MQ
I doubt anyone plays at that resolution even now
Most people here have LCD's and even if your CRT monitor supports such high resolutions the refresh rates would be terrible.

Why constrain design to current mainstream hardware?

I can only speak for myself, but I'm saving up for Apple's 30" LCD monitor. In reality I might settle for something less ambiguous, but come fall I'm pretty sure I have a reasonably big 16:10 LCD with 1920x1200 resolution.

At work I have two 1280x1024 monitors, but at home I'd much rather have one large monitor (without sacrificing too much resolution). 1920x1200 is actually me compromising on resolution (I'd love to have more).

I just hope The Register's reviewer was correct in stating that one of the DVI outputs is dual-link.
 

jake007

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CRTs for gaming for their advantages. I can afford a LCD easily, yet don't own one?

If I recall correctly, most serious FPS players uses Low Resolution (1024x768 to as low as 640x480) to their advantage. Check out the steam survey, there's also a similar survey done on Quake3 and many of it's mods.

That alone destroyed the purpose of owning a high end card.
 

jake007

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A. Even my "mid range" CRT does 75Hz at 19X14. Not optimal, but not like looking at a 60Hz strobe light either.

My current CRT also does up to 19x14. However, at such a resolution the screen becomes blurred and no longer sharp. So it's really pointless.

C. I would think any gamer in the market for a $600 card or two would have a monitor that could support 19X14? If not, there's always 16X12 with AA/AF maxed?

I'm sure many people will prefer LCD over CRT (logically speaking), particularly when you have such amount of money to burn.
 
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Originally posted by: ronnn
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Someone get this 12 year old banned (OP). Or at least just shut him up.

-Kevin

Don't think a 12 year old, more likely one of the regulars having some fun being Mister Hyde. Anyways this is one nice card and Nvidia fanboys should have their chance to gloat. Shader days was a bitter pill for that club and it's pay back time. :music:


hiding something ronnn?
 

eastvillager

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This card is cool like a concept car is cool. Nifty tech, sweeeet performance... and insane price tag.

I upgrade all the time, but there is just no way in the world I'll dump $600 on a vid card unless it is an order of magnitude better for *my* use than any other option.

Thing is you don't sell a million concept cars, you sell a million sedans, and ati makes sedans with great performance, great price and great ergonomics(nice and quiet, heeheh).

I don't think you can win the video card war with just one part, though you can certainly lose it (3dfx).
 

imported_BikeDude

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nVidia already have a large selection of sedans... Launching another one isn't going to turn heads or spark discussions like this!

I'm pretty sure one of my local webshops had some 7800GTX cards in stock yesterday. All gone now though... (they seem to believe they'll receive 270 cards on July 2nd though, so it will be interesting to watch what happens)
 

Aries64

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Originally posted by: southpawuni
This thing can handle any game out there, and it appears to need a powerful CPU, and at high resolutions we FINALLY have a savior, 2048x1536 or similar is now playable..

needless to say I am very, very impressed with this part.

Cool, quiet, SINGLE SLOT, draws LESS power than a 6800 Ultra and is as fast or faster than 6800Ultra SLI.

Yeah, and its available.. bye bye ATI.

I'm sorry, but NV40 was a blowout round for Nvidia and this is even more of a blowout.

I cant imagine the 32pipe card ready for R520 (if it ever even gets here).

Come up with all the excuses you want to hate on Nvidia and their new card, but this card is AMAZING and quiet to boot!
But all arguments are moot because SLI is available TODAY, and the 7800 is for sale TODAY and is the new King after the Geforce6.

I give the luck of the Irish to ATI.. they need it.
First off, based on Rollo's single card and SLI gaming figures and specs the 7800GTX is nothing short of AWESOME. The 32 pipeline card will be even more so.

Second, I'd like to congratulate you on your new card. Obviously Nvidia has taken GPU performance to a new level with the 7800GTX. I applaude them for that and for getting the 7800 Series out the door before ATI's R520. I would like to see Nvidia do as well as possible because (1) Competition in the marketplace is good for all, and (2) Nvidia is a U.S. owned company whereas ATI is Canadian (no offense to anyone from the Great North).

However, when you say "NV40 was a blowout round for Nvidia" you in my humble opinion that is more Nvidia fanboism than fact. Blowout how? Anyone who "did their homework" on the 6800 Ultra vs X800 XT PE last year knows that the gaming benchmarks were pretty evenly split between Nvidia and ATI.

I believe that the 6800GT was the best bang-for-the-buck card out there (offering near "stock" 6800 Ultra performance and SM3 support), again, Nvidia did not blowout ATI. I would say that for those that "valued" SM3 support (who cares) the 6800 Series was a better "value".

Yes, there is no doubt that Nvidia is currently KING. It will be interesting to see what R520 does when it does get here, whenever that is. Even then, Nvidia may roll-out an 32 pipeline card to counter whatever ATI releases. Also, in the meantime Nvidia is getting the high-end sales that they deserve for getting the product out the door. Congratulations for a job well done on an awesome card.

I don't paint myself into a box by being a fanboy of anything. And like I said in the beginning out my post I congratulate you on your awesome new card (I am a little jealous, I have to say!). However, your broad generalizations and distortion of some the facts regarding performance still make you out to sound like an Nvidia FANBOY.


 

Aries64

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Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: kmmatney
Nice card, but anyone paying $600 for a video card is a clown.

http://www.umass.edu/aesop/foxgrapes/palica/foxgrapes_trad.html

"It's easy to despise what you cannot have."

Come on...like this is a question of not having enough money to get it? Maybe he just recognizes it is insane to spend that much on a video card that will depreciate quite quickly.

The problem is that it's not insane. If you have an "adult" hobby (e.g. golfing, tennis club membership, boating, flying, etc) you blow more than $600 a year with nothing to show for it.

If you buy this card, you have a usable video card for a year or two.

I was just pointing out that he is justifying his decision not to buy, not putting forth a rational argument of the "insanity".
Rollo, don't forget that there are many jealous "haters" out there that are pissed-off that they cannot afford a high-end card, as well as those who just aren't "that into games" where they will spend $600.00 on a videocard. I mean, that IS a lot of money. I have to say that I spent $600.00 on my old Quantum 3D X-24 when they came out and it was only a pass-through. Remember that card?
 

elsupremo

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Originally posted by: Aries64
Originally posted by: southpawuni
This thing can handle any game out there, and it appears to need a powerful CPU, and at high resolutions we FINALLY have a savior, 2048x1536 or similar is now playable..

needless to say I am very, very impressed with this part.

Cool, quiet, SINGLE SLOT, draws LESS power than a 6800 Ultra and is as fast or faster than 6800Ultra SLI.

Yeah, and its available.. bye bye ATI.

I'm sorry, but NV40 was a blowout round for Nvidia and this is even more of a blowout.

I cant imagine the 32pipe card ready for R520 (if it ever even gets here).

Come up with all the excuses you want to hate on Nvidia and their new card, but this card is AMAZING and quiet to boot!
But all arguments are moot because SLI is available TODAY, and the 7800 is for sale TODAY and is the new King after the Geforce6.

I give the luck of the Irish to ATI.. they need it.
First off, based on Rollo's single card and SLI gaming figures and specs the 7800GTX is nothing short of AWESOME. The 32 pipeline card will be even more so.

Second, I'd like to congratulate you on your new card. Obviously Nvidia has taken GPU performance to a new level with the 7800GTX. I applaude them for that and for getting the 7800 Series out the door before ATI's R520. I would like to see Nvidia do as well as possible because (1) Competition in the marketplace is good for all, and (2) Nvidia is a U.S. owned company whereas ATI is Canadian (no offense to anyone from the Great North).

However, when you say "NV40 was a blowout round for Nvidia" you in my humble opinion that is more Nvidia fanboism than fact. Blowout how? Anyone who "did their homework" on the 6800 Ultra vs X800 XT PE last year knows that the gaming benchmarks were pretty evenly split between Nvidia and ATI.

I believe that the 6800GT was the best bang-for-the-buck card out there (offering near "stock" 6800 Ultra performance and SM3 support), again, Nvidia did not blowout ATI. I would say that for those that "valued" SM3 support (who cares) the 6800 Series was a better "value".

Yes, there is no doubt that Nvidia is currently KING. It will be interesting to see what R520 does when it does get here, whenever that is. Even then, Nvidia may roll-out an 32 pipeline card to counter whatever ATI releases. Also, in the meantime Nvidia is getting the high-end sales that they deserve for getting the product out the door. Congratulations for a job well done on an awesome card.

I don't paint myself into a box by being a fanboy of anything. And like I said in the beginning out my post I congratulate you on your awesome new card (I am a little jealous, I have to say!). However, your broad generalizations and distortion of some the facts regarding performance still make you out to sound like an Nvidia FANBOY.

I like this post.

 

BroadbandGamer

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I went from a X800XTPE to the 7800 GTX and it truly is a major upgrade in performance and features.

I'm a serious BF nut and BF2 runs smooth as glass with the highest quaility AA and AF.
 

Smooth317

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Originally posted by: BroadbandGamer
I went from a X800XTPE to the 7800 GTX and it truly is a major upgrade in performance and features.

I'm a serious BF nut and BF2 runs smooth as glass with the highest quaility AA and AF.

Odd, I'm running a year old system which I'm about to upgrade for no apparent reason, but I can run BF2 on all high settings at 1600x1200 including AA and AF with no stuttering (upgraded from 1GB to 2GB of RAM helped stuttering a ton).

P4 3.0E w/ HT 800MHz FSB
4x512MB Corsair XMS Low Lat DDR400
X800Pro 256MB AGP
WD 80GB 7200rpm SATA HD / WD 160GB USB Storage HD

If my older system can max out BF2, a 7800GTX really isn't necessary. Thus, I'm waiting to see how the ATI cards turn out before I overhaul my machine with an AMD X2 4400+ cpu, either an Xpress 400 Crossfire motherboard (yet to be determined) or an Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe, and either an X950 or a 7800Ultra, once released. Odds are, since the X950 is bound to beat out the 7800GTX with more pipes, I'll probably get impatient and pick up an X950 before the 7800Ultra's hit the shelves.

The point is, though, that the 7800GTX provides me and most anyone else with an X800 or 6800 or better video card with no real benefits in BF2 and probably in any other game. Not worth $600. A huge jump in pipes to 32 (double mine now) from ATI would be enough to justify the price, however.




 

Smooth317

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One question though.

Say the X950's do beat out the 7800GTX (pretty sure they will based off leaked specs). Then nVidia will release a 7800Ultra to match or edge it out. ATI will surely one-up them again with an X950XT and X950XTPE. What will nVidia match those with? What will they call it? 7800 Super Shiz Ultra GTX Saki?
 

BroadbandGamer

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Originally posted by: Smooth317
Originally posted by: BroadbandGamer
I went from a X800XTPE to the 7800 GTX and it truly is a major upgrade in performance and features.

I'm a serious BF nut and BF2 runs smooth as glass with the highest quaility AA and AF.

Odd, I'm running a year old system which I'm about to upgrade for no apparent reason, but I can run BF2 on all high settings at 1600x1200 including AA and AF with no stuttering (upgraded from 1GB to 2GB of RAM helped stuttering a ton).

P4 3.0E w/ HT 800MHz FSB
4x512MB Corsair XMS Low Lat DDR400
X800Pro 256MB AGP
WD 80GB 7200rpm SATA HD / WD 160GB USB Storage HD

If my older system can max out BF2, a 7800GTX really isn't necessary. Thus, I'm waiting to see how the ATI cards turn out before I overhaul my machine with an AMD X2 4400+ cpu, either an Xpress 400 Crossfire motherboard (yet to be determined) or an Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe, and either an X950 or a 7800Ultra, once released. Odds are, since the X950 is bound to beat out the 7800GTX with more pipes, I'll probably get impatient and pick up an X950 before the 7800Ultra's hit the shelves.

The point is, though, that the 7800GTX provides me and most anyone else with an X800 or 6800 or better video card with no real benefits in BF2 and probably in any other game. Not worth $600. A huge jump in pipes to 32 (double mine now) from ATI would be enough to justify the price, however.


You must not mind running it at 30fps or less. Also, do you have dynamic lights and shadows turned on? I really find it hard to believe (not saying you're a liar just saying it's hard to believe) you can run BF2 at 1600x1200 with everything on high and you get no stuttering (and that's with a X800 Pro). What AA and AF?
 

BroadbandGamer

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Originally posted by: Smooth317
One question though.

Say the X950's do beat out the 7800GTX (pretty sure they will based off leaked specs). Then nVidia will release a 7800Ultra to match or edge it out. ATI will surely one-up them again with an X950XT and X950XTPE. What will nVidia match those with? What will they call it? 7800 Super Shiz Ultra GTX Saki?

It's a never ending cycle. As long as video cards keep getting faster I really don't care.

If ATI or NVIDIA release something that blows away the 7800 GTX then that's what ebay is for.
 

mrphones

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Originally posted by: southpawuni
No facts, but it can be extrapolated fairly easily be looking at the massive power this thing holds.

You can hold me to it if you want too. Fine by me, I guarantee I'm correct in saying this will push UE3.0 with great performance.

I'm enthusiastic cuz this thing without doubt rocks.

If you can match or beat SLI performance with a single card, make it SINGLE SLOT and available today... with 24 pipes you have a first round knockout.

I think I found a "True" geek. He's so pumped up about it...

 
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