7800GTX In Stock @ Newegg

[ryanv12]

Originally posted by: n7
obeseotron has made some disturbing observations about pricing.

The fact is, nVidia & ATi are raking in cash from video card sales.

If you actually believe it's costing them double to make the 7800s over the TIs, i'd like some of whatever it is you're smoking.

The sick thing is how i can see it only continuing, which frustrates me.

If nVidia was the only company making video cards, it'd be another story. It's not though. I know no one will agree with me, but i somewhat think that nVidia & ATi are working together to raise prices gradually. Since they are pretty much the only choices...why not?
It used to be $5000 to buy a good PC system.
Then of course, prices dropped drastically...& now they are going up again...or the high end is anyway.
It seems the gap between the cheap word processing system & the gaming system is becoming massive...& i dislike that

Yeah, it's the gap between the "rich" and the "poor" PC's so to speak. On one hand, you can get a good, basic machine with monitor for $300 (or less), but as soon as you want anything more, it's gonna cost ya

I would never buy anything at the top end though. I look for the "sweet spot" of high end. Thus, my 6800GT cost me $350 and gave me most of the performance of a 6800Ultra, which I was certainly happy with.

 

[Avalon]

Originally posted by: n7
obeseotron has made some disturbing observations about pricing.

The fact is, nVidia & ATi are raking in cash from video card sales.

If you actually believe it's costing them double to make the 7800s over the TIs, i'd like some of whatever it is you're smoking.

The sick thing is how i can see it only continuing, which frustrates me.

If nVidia was the only company making video cards, it'd be another story. It's not though. I know no one will agree with me, but i somewhat think that nVidia & ATi are working together to raise prices gradually. Since they are pretty much the only choices...why not?
It used to be $5000 to buy a good PC system.
Then of course, prices dropped drastically...& now they are going up again...or the high end is anyway.
It seems the gap between the cheap word processing system & the gaming system is becoming massive...& i dislike that

But if you're good at it (and I'm sure you are), you should be able to find a good post-launch hot deal on a said new gen gaming card that will be a much more acceptable price for you. It can help to wait a couple months. If you think about it, you can experience the 6800 GPU for $159 @ Newegg (vanilla, but still "high end"), and it's been fairly close to that price for a couple months. Certainly less than a year of its introduction. How much was a Radeon 9800 a year after it's introduction? About $150. 6800GTs and 6800Us (and likewise the 7800GTX) are mainly for people with large monitors that need high resolutions IMO, and if you've got a large expensive monitor, you'll have to buy an expensive graphics card to be able to display that monitor and keep things in games smooth. As for the rest of us gamers with 19" screens, 1280x1024 is a fine enough resolution and can be handled by the "low" high end. I want to see what the vanilla 7800 will offer.

 

[nitromullet]

It seems the gap between the cheap word processing system & the gaming system is becoming massive...& i dislike that

This is true for the high end. However, it is still not that difficult to play games on a mid range system - you just have to turn down some of the detail and eye candy or the games will do it for you (e.g. HL2 reverts to DX8 on GF FX series and it still looks great). I have found that upgrading tends to be cyclical with me: better card -> bigger monitor/more eye candy -> need better card... and so on...

 

[nitromullet]

Originally posted by: g3pro
Does that card look really really long or is that just how pci-x cards look like? (i use AGP)

I thought you've already seen these cards...

I've done tests on the G70 and R520 in 3dmark2005 and 3dmark2003, and the nVidia card beats out the ATi card by some big margins. - g3pro

...from Avalon's sig... which was 2 posts above your's...

sorry to swipe you QFT Av, but that was ridiculous...

 

[Paktu]

Looks like newegg just pulled all three of them.

 

[nippyjun]

They must have sold out at newegg.

 

[dornick]

Dare I hope for price drops on the 6800's over the next month?

 

[MBrown]

After hearing all this hype about it being 650 or 750 bucks 599 doesnt sound too bad. Still expensive though.

 

[Spamdini]

wait for benches and hold on to ur credit cards for ati, dont want to pay for a 7800 and then discover it was a mistake.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Insomniak

Originally posted by: Naustica

Originally posted by: Insomniak
$600 for 256MB of memory? That's pushing it.

And I'm somewhat disappointed to see LeadTek using a reference cooler.

I agree but I bet Leadtek lost money with the 6800 series due to poor sales. Non-reference design probably hurt their sales even though it costed them more.

Source?

I have a LeadTek card in my machine now, the primary reason I bought it being their excellent marks for quality.

I am also disappointed at leadteks default cooling, hopefully their standards for quality control remain the same though.

-A leadtek partner.

 

[masteraleph]

Originally posted by: nippyjun
They must have sold out at newegg.

Possibly, Zipzoomfly still has the XFX at least

 

[jpeyton]

Of course it doesn't cost Nvidia anywhere close to $599 to manufacture the boards. But they had to pay for R&D, marketing, salaries, etc, which can add up when designing something like a GPU.

You guys shouldn't complain about the price; they'll come down once ATi comes out with their next-gen pieces as well. What you should really be excited about is how much 6800 prices are going to drop.

I think my X850 XT PE will hold me over for a few months, until I see how much the 32 pipe cards cost. I see no reason to do a half-step and buy a 24-pipe card now.

And BTW, SLI = PURE MARKETING GENIUS. People were completely satisfied with their single GPUs before it came out, and all of a sudden Nvidia made everyone want to go out and buy a 2nd expensive graphics card.

Can't wait until we start having dual-core GPUs (and consequently, quad-core SLI). It's unavoidable...as long as they keep giving us reasons for upgrading, we'll keep biting...right?

 

[ryanv12]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
I think my X850 XT PE will hold me over for a few months, until I see how much the 32 pipe cards cost. I see no reason to do a half-step and buy a 24-pipe card now.

A few months??

That would probably last me at least another year while being completely satisfied. My 6800GT is going to ride until there's 32 piped AGP cards at decent prices.

 

[slash196]

That would probably last me at least another year while being completely satisfied. My 6800GT is going to ride until there's 32 piped AGP cards at decent prices.

I'm betting there will be no such card. It would be targeted at the ultra-high end, and that's basically all PCIe now.

 

[obeseotron]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Can't wait until we start having dual-core GPUs (and consequently, quad-core SLI). It's unavoidable...as long as they keep giving us reasons for upgrading, we'll keep biting...right?

Dual-core does not apply the same way to graphics chips that it does to cpus. GPU processing is already extremely parallel and has been for a long time. From the Voodoo2's 2 TMUs going foward we have seen an endless increase in the number of pipelines which has the same practical effect as a "dual core" GPU. What's the difference between a hypothetical dualcore 9800 Pro and an x800? They would both have 16 pipelines and thus the same level of paralellism, but the dualcore 9800 would probably have a lot of needlessly replicated circuity (AA and video acceleration for instance). Also if the biggest die you can economically manufacture is 300m transistors, that doesn't change by putting two cores on the same die.

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
And BTW, SLI = PURE MARKETING GENIUS.

So true.

I almost feel sorry for the suckers that went out & bought 2 6800 GTs when now a single 7800 GTX does similar performance (for what will eventually be a ton less).

Of course, people will now go out & buy two 7800s for their 1280x1024 monitor...

Someday SLI may be necessary...but till then, i think it's excessively wasteful, especially when you have new gen cards almost every year...well, unless you have to have the absolute best...

 

[Bushman5]

This is conspiracy theory but. ATI WILL HAVE DOUBLE THE PERFORMANCE AND IT WILL COST 600 USD also THOSE WHO BOUGHT THIS TODAY MWAHAHAHWTFPWANED /spam off

 

[PrayForDeath]

Originally posted by: ZobarStyl
Good card or bad card we'll find out from Anand tomorrow but damn, congrats to nVidia for the first real launch we've seen in a long time. Last gen's paper launch backlash really must've sunk in, and not a moment too soon.

Yup, and their next step is to launch a full budget-to-high-end line at once and immediately fade the previous line, but I guess that's asking too much
I wonder why people keep naming the R520, X900; it wasn't confirmed, was it?

 

[Ackmed]

Originally posted by: Insomniak

Originally posted by: nitromullet

Originally posted by: Insomniak
$600 for 256MB of memory? That's pushing it.

And I'm somewhat disappointed to see LeadTek using a reference cooler.

This is usually the case with the first batch of nVidia cards.

Uh, almost everyone's cards get gouged out the gates, but these are probably MSRP, and it's a bit high.

And don't even act like such is an Nvidia-only issue. ATi is just as guilty.

Its not ATi nor NV that does this, but the board makers. They dont make their own cards.

 

[PerfeK]

Originally posted by: Insomniak
$600 for 256MB of memory? That's pushing it.

And I'm somewhat disappointed to see LeadTek using a reference cooler.

It's not about the memory. Please shut the fuc up.

People don't complain about $600 X850XT PEs.

 

[Insomniak]

Originally posted by: PerfeK

Originally posted by: Insomniak
$600 for 256MB of memory? That's pushing it.

And I'm somewhat disappointed to see LeadTek using a reference cooler.

It's not about the memory. Please shut the fuc up.

People don't complain about $600 X850XT PEs.

Blow me. I know you don't need more than 256MB right now, but that's not the point - you're spending $600. You should have lots of big numbers to brag about to your friends.

Even Derek agrees:

For $600 we would like to see 512MB onboard, but with the current gaming landscape we certainly agree that more than 256MB is not an absolute necessity. But the GeForce 7800 GTX would have no reason to exist right now if not to accommodate future titles that will be more taxing than current games.



So get off my nuts. Last gen boards had 512MB, this gen's top end damn well sure should've. End of argument.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Insomniak

Originally posted by: PerfeK

Originally posted by: Insomniak
$600 for 256MB of memory? That's pushing it.

And I'm somewhat disappointed to see LeadTek using a reference cooler.

It's not about the memory. Please shut the fuc up.

People don't complain about $600 X850XT PEs.

Blow me. I know you don't need more than 256MB right now, but that's not the point - you're spending $600. You should have lots of big numbers to brag about to your friends.

Even Derek agrees:

For $600 we would like to see 512MB onboard, but with the current gaming landscape we certainly agree that more than 256MB is not an absolute necessity. But the GeForce 7800 GTX would have no reason to exist right now if not to accommodate future titles that will be more taxing than current games.



So get off my nuts. Last gen boards had 512MB, this gen's top end damn well sure should've. End of argument.

Who said the 7800GTX was nvidia's top end?

 

[Draco]

Well done Nvidia. We can actually purchase the product the day of launch. This is a first, and it's quite impressive. Hopefully this become SOP.

To bad it's $600 :-/

 

[Romir]

All Nvidia cards memory at launch:

Diamond Edge 3D - 2MB
Riva TNT - 4MB
Riva TNT2 Ultra - 32MB
GeForce 256 - 32MB
GeForce 2 GTS - 32MB
GeForce 3 Ultra - 64MB
GeFOrce 4 Ti 4600 - 128MB
GeForce 5 FX 5800 - 128MB
GeForce 6800 Ultra - 256MB
GeForce 7800 GTX - 256MB

Looks in line to me. The upward trend in pricing has been going on for years too.

Btw, ZZF has the BFG Geforce 7800 GTX OC PC in stock for $599 shipped 2 day air. 560mhz core (+30) and 1200mhz (+100) memory.

 

[SynthDude2001]

Originally posted by: Romir
Btw, ZZF has the BFG Geforce 7800 GTX OC PC in stock for $599 shipped 2 day air. 560mhz core (+30) and 1200mhz (+100) memory.

Not bad for a factory-overclocked card at the same price as all the others :thumbsup:

Edit: Relatively anyway....I still wouldn't personally buy one at this point.