Originally posted by: deruberhanyok
taltamir-
For someone who is running games in 1024x768 and won't be playing any of the new games on the cutting edge of graphics, it's nice to know that a discrete card isn't necessary. Not everyone has to have games running at 60fps in 1920x1200 with all of the details turned up to maximum to be happy.
As I mentioned above I've played WoW on this board's IGP and, though I prefer to play it on my regular PC, I'm perfectly content with the performance of the IGP for playing it. I know a lot of people who would be equally happy with the performance it offers.
There are LOTS of gamers who can't "afford a real video card." It is nice that you think everyone has that kind of money to spend, though.
You seem to think I mean a 200+ car when I Say a real video card...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16814121259
that is what the 3450 @ 20$ is for.
Nvidia also has a 20$ video card.
And you can buy pretty decent last 2 gens used cards for that amount too.. no gamer can not afford 20$ for a discrete card.
Especially in the age of hybrid SLI / CF (i did mention that those performance figures matter )
Originally posted by: nerp
Originally posted by: taltamir
why do IGP roundups always compare video game performance? who cares? no IGP is suitable for gaming. and no gamer can not afford a real video card.
IGPs are for things like HTPCs, fileservers, email/web browsing machines, etc... (or hybrid power of course).
They need to be compared on features, compatibility, power consumption, reliability, non windows drivers, etc (there is a linux based tivo like OS, there are tons of important OSes like linux and solaris for file servers, ubantoo is THE OS for email/web, etc)
I dunno man.
There are a lot of people who just play the sims, spore, WoW, Simcity, puzzle games, tetris, etc, and don't need a video card at all for decent performance. There are a lot of people playing at 1280x1024 or lower and even the HD3200 is more than enough for that.
Not having a discrete card saves power, reduces heat, lowers cost and allows you to build a slim machine with a tiny case and a mAtx board. This is a fantastic solution for a huge number of people who are casual gamers, not enthusiasts.
The 780G changes the game.
sims, spore, WoW - require a video card better then an IGP for reasonable performance.
Simcity, puzzle games, tetris - will run perfectly on ANY video device (IGP or whatever).
Casual or enthusiast are stupid terms. Its based on how much money you have and how much money you are willing to sink into it. I know absolute addicts whose life revolves around it and have no money to buy good hardware. And I know rich people that buy the best of the best and never use it.
And again, you are assuming I mean a 200$ video card. There are very decent 20$ video cards from nvidia and ATI that perform the same or better then a top end IGP.
Not having a discrete card saves power, reduces heat, lowers cost and allows you to build a slim machine with a tiny case and a mAtx board.
yes, all EXCELLENT reasons that SHOULD be reviewed that have nothing to do with gamers.
I might have exaggerated a bit with the who cares, but really, it is the absolute LEAST important bit of information about an IGP.