7900 vs 1900

[tony4704]

if I did go 7900 maybe sli GT's would be better than single GTX, my only concern would be the lack of ram since im running high res.

 

[nib95]

Originally posted by: tony4704
if I did go 7900 maybe sli GT's would be better than single GTX, my only concern would be the lack of ram since im running high res.

My sentiments exactly.

 

[crazydingo]

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
Cheapest 1800xt in stock @NewEgg is $130 more then the 7900GT-

Really?

X1800XT same price as 7900GT

Like you, I could pull up a $599 7900GTX and say "Cheapest 7900GTX in stock @Newegg is $150 more than X1900XT" but I dont prefer twisting arguments.

 

[beggerking]

Originally posted by: DeathBUA

Originally posted by: kyparrish
I can't wait to see how high the 7900GT's will overclock to.

Check out Guru 3D for some early OCing results....if this is the case....I'll be itching for a set of 7900GT OCed in SLI.....

GeForce 7600 GT 560 MHZ / 607 MHz 1400 MHz / 1600 MHz
GeForce 7900 GT 450 MHZ / 545 MHz 1320 MHZ / 1568 MHz
GeForce 7900 GTX 650 MHZ / 705 MHz 1600 MHZ / 1800 MHz

roughly 100Mhz on the core and roughly 125Mhz on the mem(250 effective) Thats just sick...Imagine if you slapped an Artic cooling or Zalman on that thing... :Q

I agree. Should be able to OC to GTX speed with a 3rd party cooler, total cost should be less than a real gtx..

EDIT: nm.. 256mb vs 512mb.. GTX is still better..

 

[beggerking]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: beggerking

Originally posted by: tony4704
From what I have read it is really looking like the 1900 is the way to go. The 7900 is cooler, consumes less power but performes in the same range of the 1900. Ati has way nicer features, avivo and such. Is it not a clear choice to go with the 1900 then? Or are there some benefits to the 7900 over the 1900? thank you

isn't Avivo = Purevideo?
7900 is cooler/ more energy effecient/quieter
1900 has HDR+AA

X1900 also has angle independent AF which even the notirous mouthpiece for nVidia HardOCP recognizes:

We like the Higher Quality AF filtering that the X1900 XTX does though. ATI?s HQ AF really helps with image quality in an outdoor game like BF2 when compared to NVIDIA?s way of doing filtering. There are a lot of angles to the ground textures in BF2 and having the filtering performed in ATI?s superior way can indeed provide a noticeably better visual quality and overall better gaming experience. You can find forum arguments all over the Net about Red Vs. Green when it comes to texture filtering, but this is one situation where ATI?s technology clearly leads in the real-world gaming experience battle.

7900 has transparency AA.
angle independent AF helps in quality but with high res on + high AA, its really not a big difference. I agree it does help though.

 

[TraumaRN]

Originally posted by: beggerking

Originally posted by: DeathBUA

Originally posted by: kyparrish
I can't wait to see how high the 7900GT's will overclock to.

Check out Guru 3D for some early OCing results....if this is the case....I'll be itching for a set of 7900GT OCed in SLI.....

GeForce 7600 GT 560 MHZ / 607 MHz 1400 MHz / 1600 MHz
GeForce 7900 GT 450 MHZ / 545 MHz 1320 MHZ / 1568 MHz
GeForce 7900 GTX 650 MHZ / 705 MHz 1600 MHZ / 1800 MHz

roughly 100Mhz on the core and roughly 125Mhz on the mem(250 effective) Thats just sick...Imagine if you slapped an Artic cooling or Zalman on that thing... :Q

I agree. Should be able to OC to GTX speed with a 3rd party cooler, total cost should be less than a real gtx..

EDIT: nm.. 256mb vs 512mb.. GTX is still better..

Better being kind of subjective, yes the more memory will help but the fact that you could get similar performance at a lower price is a the key in this.

 

[tony4704]

taking for example the high end benchmarks AT did for FEAR at 1920x1440 the 7900 SLI GT did 40 FPS while the single GTX did 31. So I guess in this case the memory difference didn't matter.

 

[beggerking]

Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Better being kind of subjective, yes the more memory will help but the fact that you could get similar performance at a lower price is a the key in this.

agreed.

 

[Aarondeep]

Being a current owner of a 1900XT , I can tell you this card runs creates alot of heat in your system. The power requirements are large as well. I had to get a new PSU the zalman 450W I had didn't cut it. If you have the energy requirements for the 1900 i'd say go with it. Its a great performer and will support future things like HDR. Maybe wait a few weeks and watch a price war unfold before you buy.

 

[Topweasel]

Originally posted by: crazydingo

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
Cheapest 1800xt in stock @NewEgg is $130 more then the 7900GT-

Really?

X1800XT same price as 7900GT

Like you, I could pull up a $599 7900GTX and say "Cheapest 7900GTX in stock @Newegg is $150 more than X1900XT" but I dont prefer twisting arguments.

I think that SKU might be dead or a place holer for the refurbished because the have a HIS on there instock same specs and packaging for almost $100 more.

 

[Wreckage]

With 7900GTX512's already showing up at $479, I could not see recommending a XTX until they bring their retail price down to match it.

 

[nib95]

What do you guys think to this idea.

I'm thinking of picking up 2 x 7900 Gt's and 2 3rd party VGA coolers.
Do you guys think this is a good idea?

It would cost me approximately £120 more then a single 7900 GTX or £140 more then a single X1900 XTX.
But I'm hoping with 3rd party coolers installed I could get 2 x 7900 GTX SLI performance.

 

[imported_Finny]

Hmmm... It is pretty hard to decide. Here's my thoughts:

1. GTX is definitely cooler & quieter.
2. GTX has that transparency AA.
3. GT & GTX seem to be cheaper than their respective competition parts (I won't name anything specific however, as this can be interpreted in many different ways).
4. If these parts are anything like the 7800s were, we could be seeing some nicely lowered prices some time soon.
5. SLI is definitely better than Crossfire (Although quite understandably, seeing as to how ATi not only started later, they're still working out some kinks, I.E. stupid dongles, master cards, etc)

Now, so I don't look like a green goblin , I'll give ATi's advantages:

1. HDR+AA (Don't be fooled by Lost Coast- True HDR+AA is only available on ATi parts, although this doesn't necessarily mean "future proof" as some would say, seeing as to how the games of tommorow will be too graphically demanding to make use of these features anyway; same goes for the aforementioned transparency AA)
2. Seem to be dropping nicely in price.
3. TECHNOLOGY OF THE FUTUUUUUURE!!!

There are other points of arguement. IMO, right now, you can't go wrong with either.

 

[DefRef]

Don't forget that the 7900GT is a half-inch shorter, which will help in cramped cases.

 

[TraumaRN]

Originally posted by: nib95
What do you guys think to this idea.

I'm thinking of picking up 2 x 7900 Gt's and 2 3rd party VGA coolers.
Do you guys think this is a good idea?

It would cost me approximately £120 more then a single 7900 GTX or £140 more then a single X1900 XTX.
But I'm hoping with 3rd party coolers installed I could get 2 x 7900 GTX SLI performance.

Go for it, if you think the cost is justified then do it. If you do make sure to report to us the difference in OCing...I'll be especially interested since I have a $500US tax refund coming and I could easily pony up the extra 100 for the cards plus around 50-60 for a VGA cooler. Then sell my old mobo(maybe get 70-80 bucks for it) and buy the Epox SLI version(which is like 115ish at Newegg)

 

[crazydingo]

Originally posted by: Topweasel

Originally posted by: crazydingo

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
Cheapest 1800xt in stock @NewEgg is $130 more then the 7900GT-

Really?

X1800XT same price as 7900GT

Like you, I could pull up a $599 7900GTX and say "Cheapest 7900GTX in stock @Newegg is $150 more than X1900XT" but I dont prefer twisting arguments.

I think that SKU might be dead or a place holer for the refurbished because the have a HIS on there instock same specs and packaging for almost $100 more.

256MB vs 512MB

 

[nib95]

Originally posted by: DeathBUA

Originally posted by: nib95
What do you guys think to this idea.

I'm thinking of picking up 2 x 7900 Gt's and 2 3rd party VGA coolers.
Do you guys think this is a good idea?

It would cost me approximately £120 more then a single 7900 GTX or £140 more then a single X1900 XTX.
But I'm hoping with 3rd party coolers installed I could get 2 x 7900 GTX SLI performance.

Go for it, if you think the cost is justified then do it. If you do make sure to report to us the difference in OCing...I'll be especially interested since I have a $500US tax refund coming and I could easily pony up the extra 100 for the cards plus around 50-60 for a VGA cooler. Then sell my old mobo(maybe get 70-80 bucks for it) and buy the Epox SLI version(which is like 115ish at Newegg)

Crap just noticed something.

Will the 3rd part 7800 coolers even fit the 7900 GT?
Isnt the Gt smaller?

And also, by the looks of the pics, i'd say there were some jumpers on the rear of the board that would get in the way of the 3rd party cooler.

What do you guys think?
Perhaps Nvidia designed it in such a way as to ensure at this current time It couldnt be made in to a 7900 GTX?

 

[crazydingo]

My recommendations for different price points

$400+ X1900XT/7900GTX
$300+ 7900GT/X1800XT
$200+ 7600GT

 

[TraumaRN]

Originally posted by: nib95

Originally posted by: DeathBUA

Originally posted by: nib95
What do you guys think to this idea.

I'm thinking of picking up 2 x 7900 Gt's and 2 3rd party VGA coolers.
Do you guys think this is a good idea?

It would cost me approximately £120 more then a single 7900 GTX or £140 more then a single X1900 XTX.
But I'm hoping with 3rd party coolers installed I could get 2 x 7900 GTX SLI performance.

Go for it, if you think the cost is justified then do it. If you do make sure to report to us the difference in OCing...I'll be especially interested since I have a $500US tax refund coming and I could easily pony up the extra 100 for the cards plus around 50-60 for a VGA cooler. Then sell my old mobo(maybe get 70-80 bucks for it) and buy the Epox SLI version(which is like 115ish at Newegg)

Crap just noticed something.

Will the 3rd part 7800 coolers even fit the 7900 GT?
Isnt the Gt smaller?

And also, by the looks of the pics, i'd say there were some jumpers on the rear of the board that would get in the way of the 3rd party cooler.

What do you guys think?
Perhaps Nvidia designed it in such a way as to ensure at this current time It couldnt be made in to a 7900 GTX?

I was thinking a Zalman cooler might work, but hmmm I guess we'll find out soon enough and I'm sure the 3rd party coolers(and mounts) for the 7900 series wont be far behind

 

[Wreckage]

Originally posted by: nib95
What do you guys think to this idea.

I'm thinking of picking up 2 x 7900 Gt's and 2 3rd party VGA coolers.
Do you guys think this is a good idea?

I wonder if XFX will come out with a 7900GT with the GTX cooler? I think they did that with the 7800GT or GTX256?

I really like that Quadro heatpipe cooler.

 

[beggerking]

Originally posted by: crazydingo
My recommendations for different price points

$400+ X1900XT/7900GTX
$300+ 7900GT/X1800XT
$200+ 7600GT

$200+ = 7800GT until they run out.

 

[Steelski]

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: nib95
What do you guys think to this idea.

I'm thinking of picking up 2 x 7900 Gt's and 2 3rd party VGA coolers.
Do you guys think this is a good idea?

I wonder if XFX will come out with a 7900GT with the GTX cooler? I think they did that with the 7800GT or GTX256?

I really like that Quadro heatpipe cooler.

I dout that. the GT is much smaller..... different PCB.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: beggerking

Originally posted by: tony4704
From what I have read it is really looking like the 1900 is the way to go. The 7900 is cooler, consumes less power but performes in the same range of the 1900. Ati has way nicer features, avivo and such. Is it not a clear choice to go with the 1900 then? Or are there some benefits to the 7900 over the 1900? thank you

isn't Avivo = Purevideo?
7900 is cooler/ more energy effecient/quieter
1900 has HDR+AA

X1900 also has angle independent AF which even the notirous mouthpiece for nVidia HardOCP recognizes:

We like the Higher Quality AF filtering that the X1900 XTX does though. ATI?s HQ AF really helps with image quality in an outdoor game like BF2 when compared to NVIDIA?s way of doing filtering. There are a lot of angles to the ground textures in BF2 and having the filtering performed in ATI?s superior way can indeed provide a noticeably better visual quality and overall better gaming experience. You can find forum arguments all over the Net about Red Vs. Green when it comes to texture filtering, but this is one situation where ATI?s technology clearly leads in the real-world gaming experience battle.

|H| is a mouthpiece for nvidia now? They shredded Nv back in the FX days and showed off ati bias in the past. Youre becoming the running joke on these forums Joker. Youre like the anti-rollo.

 

[TraumaRN]

You know what Nib95 looking at my 7800GT running right now and comparing a backshot to the 7900GT I'm thinking the mount holes look exactly the same. I might be wrong but they are in the same places on the board so it's possible current 3rd party HSF might fit.

 

[moonboy403]

i'm so excited about the 7900 gtx (it actually performs better than i thought it would)

and i just pulled the trigger on the pny gtx for $479 (cheaper than i thought)

on the other hand, i'm also waiting for evga to stock the gtx so i can step up my current gt to make my 7900 gtx sli :beer: