7950 instead of 670.

[Arkaign]

Thank, but looking at current games Nvidia will have to do something.. I suspect the will just launch a new line. Which means I will once again be left with hardware that isn't quite up to snuff (ala 5850 filtering). I don't wanna get stuck into this situation again.

Is there some current game that a 670 or a 7950 can't easily play at 1080p with settings max or near-max?

No.

So there you go. This is an incredibly silly proposition. You also would have the exact same imaginary issue with any future card. They will be viable for a certain amount of time, then they will start to become outdated, and then finally be virtually useless for gaming. That's just how it is.

Do you want to play games decently now? Keep the 670, or get a 7950.

Are you willing to wait another half year or so? Then maybe wait. But remember, some generations truly suck in terms of 'improvement'. See : 5870 to 6950/6970. That was worthless. Or even 480 to 580, moderate improvement, but nothing that made the move that appealing. 6970 to 7970 was absolutely massive, and so was 580 to 680 by comparison.

 

[Xarick]

Rumor has it June,
780 series, with 3 gigs of ram and a larger memory bus.
Then everyone will be singing.. 2gigs isn't enough for 1080.

 

[r3awak3n]

rumor had it that the titan was going to be much faster, up to almost twice as fast, as the gtx 690. hmmmm

 

[BallaTheFeared]

rumor had it that the titan was going to be much faster, up to almost twice as fast, as the gtx 690. hmmmm

Twice as fast as the 690, where are you getting your rumors from?

 

[r3awak3n]

50% faster than the 690 or something. Regardless it was gonna beast the 690 and it didnt.

 

[Xarick]

Maybe you guys are right, but it feels like the tides are turning and leaving ATI right now may be not such a good move.

 

[Xarick]

Okay.. one last question. I am thinking of sending it back and ordering this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161420

I like that this one vents outside the case.

Good move or no?

would save me $28.

 

[MeldarthX]

His ICED is a good card you also get two free games if you want to see to lower to cost - once OC you'll see it match and pass a little of standard 7950 GE; and 680 at stock.....

and slightly cheaper - I'd say if you're that umming about it; send 670 back and get this either card will rock

 

[wand3r3r]

I'd go twin frozr for $5 more which is known to be voltage unlocked and it's generally said to be a good/great overclocker (of course there's still the silicon lottery factor).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127667

Otherwise the sapphire that can be unlocked but I'm not going to link it because I'm not 100% sure which model.

Then again I may have missed that you want a blower style cooler? I don't know if that HIS is voltage locked, but the key (imo) to the 7950 is price with games, plus overclocking potential.

 

[Xarick]

Lots of negative comments about the twin.. loud, tim problems. Also the His is known to run cooler and quieter. I will happily give up OC potential for quieter.

 

[24601]

Lots of negative comments about the twin.. loud, tim problems. Also the His is known to run cooler and quieter. I will happily give up OC potential for quieter.

Only cooler better than twin frozr is the windforce, which is stuck with locked voltages now as well.

TIM application is always easily fixed, and removing the HSF doesn't void MSI's warrantee.

 

[wand3r3r]

Lots of negative comments about the twin.. loud, tim problems. Also the His is known to run cooler and quieter. I will happily give up OC potential for quieter.

HIS ICEq

MSI Twin Frozr

Anyways, TIM is simple to replace, and as mentioned MSI allows you to change it without voiding the warranty.

Overclocking is one of the reasons to consider the 7950 (firstly price & bundles). I think at some point it would be worth sliding the core clock bar a little to the right when the FPS just aren't quite where you want them. It's simple and with a little time and stability testing it can be very beneficial on said card.

Again, I am not familiar with the HIS. Is it voltage locked?

 

[BallaTheFeared]

your msi is at idle vs load for his >.<

vs

Also I think the guru3d tests were with a 800MHz IceQ vs a 960MHz TF3, but I could be wrong.


The TIM application wasn't the best on mine, my first attempt at replacing it resulted in a 5C drop while mining as well as less fan speed.

 

[wand3r3r]

your msi is at idle vs load for his >.<

Also I think the guru3d tests were with a 800MHz IceQ vs a 960MHz TF3, but I could be wrong.


The TIM application wasn't the best on mine, my first attempt at replacing it resulted in a 5C drop while mining as well as less fan speed.

Thanks, fixed.

 

[Xarick]

Okay.. I know this is going to sound sad and pathetic, but I am totally stuck.
My Galaxy card is sitting unopened on my bookshelf and has for nearly two weeks. I can't get myself to install it, but I can't get myself to return it either....

 

[r3awak3n]

sad and pathetic

...

 

[Silverforce11]

This is good advice too. The 7950 is really only faster when overclocked. Also, not all cards will overclock to the levels plastered on the forums.

For a single card either solution is really good for everything up to 1080p.

There's custom 7950s that already come with 1ghz clock speed, that already is a huge gain from its weak stock clocks.

7950 is the best bang for buck card this generation for high-end.

 

[Will Robinson]

Okay.. I know this is going to sound sad and pathetic, but I am totally stuck.
My Galaxy card is sitting unopened on my bookshelf and has for nearly two weeks. I can't get myself to install it, but I can't get myself to return it either....

Buddy,you are talking degrees of perfect here....tiny frame rate increases don't justify stressing out over which model you buy.
"Be the Card" and GET IN THE GAME!

 

[you2]

How does the new L3 sapphire compare to the frozr ? I'm mostly looking at these two cards because of length (the longer cards might not fit) and price. Link the L3 (I can't find any reviews):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814202026
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Oh yea one other issue from reading it seems that the MSI frozr has changed slightly 2 or 3 times; is the one currently shipping as good as those reviewed a year ago with regards to noise/performance ?

HIS ICEq

MSI Twin Frozr

Anyways, TIM is simple to replace, and as mentioned MSI allows you to change it without voiding the warranty.

Overclocking is one of the reasons to consider the 7950 (firstly price & bundles). I think at some point it would be worth sliding the core clock bar a little to the right when the FPS just aren't quite where you want them. It's simple and with a little time and stability testing it can be very beneficial on said card.

Again, I am not familiar with the HIS. Is it voltage locked?

 

[Xarick]

Yes,
degrees of perfection.
Is the 2gig gonna hurt me in a year?
If not I think I will keep it.

 

[3DVagabond]

Yes,
degrees of perfection.
Is the 2gig gonna hurt me in a year?
If not I think I will keep it.

It won't hurt you until nVidia's standard ram is greater than 2gig. Then they will make sure you need more than 2gig for max settings. Until then, it's in their interest to keep 2gig cards viable.

 

[Xarick]

Even then though we would be talking about high settings vs ultra settings most likely wouldn't we?

 

[guskline]

Eh, what?

You do realize you've just landed in a sea of nerds like us who quibble endlessly over microscopic percentages?

The differences between 7950/670, OC, no OC, etc, are absolutely miniscule in the big picture.

Both will let you enjoy any game on the market with the right settings, basically everything maxed at 1080p in most titles, and only *slightly* dialed back in a few games.

You already have the 670, enjoy it.

If you already had the 7950, I'd say the exact same thing. Mailing something in, waiting, hassling, etc, is enough of my time that I don't think $60 is worth it.

Ditto. BUT Disclaimer. I'm biased. See my sig!:biggrin:

 

[Xarick]

Went to start a return and found they would charge me $9.88 return shipping.
I guess that isn't a lot, but....

Still debating returning this for a msi 7950
$300 ... at ncix.
$338 - 10
$328 - $300 = $28... Savings of $28.. faster overclock and more ram.
hrmm...