7950GX2 pictured

JAG87

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Actually smaller then a 7900 GTX card (by 1cm) and only uses 1 power connector for each card which means you can use any SLI certified PSU with 2 PCI-e power cables to power it.

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,3662.html

Believe it or not, a quad sli system draws less power then an X1900 crossfire system under full load. its 452w for quad SLI and almost 494 for xfire. from techPowerUp, not making this up.
 

Ika

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nvidia innovation ftw!

numbers are ridiculous; wonder if the rest of the numbers will follow up (temps, benchies...)
 

akugami

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Originally posted by: JAG87
Actually smaller then a 7900 GTX card (by 1cm) and only uses 1 power connector for each card which means you can use any SLI certified PSU with 2 PCI-e power cables to power it.

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,3662.html

Believe it or not, a quad sli system draws less power then an X1900 crossfire system under full load. its 452w for quad SLI and almost 494 for xfire. from techPowerUp, not making this up.

Keep in mind that these seem to be like dual 7900GT's in one card as the cores are running 500mhz (stock is 450mhz for real 7900GT's) and memory is 600mhz. The lower spec would explain the relatively low power draw of each dual GPU card.
 

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I would be willing to buy a setup like this if DX10 wasn't on the horizon. Though that picture has been out for awhile not all the specs have been, but this was a great move for nvidia to implement two cores onto one pcb like they had done for the single card sli setups, but this time for quad sli.
 

BFG10K

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Wow, that's pretty impressive. If it's true then I'll seriously consider picking one up.
 

josh6079

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Originally posted by: The Dome
I would be willing to buy a setup like this if DX10 wasn't on the horizon. Though that picture has been out for awhile not all the specs have been, but this was a great move for nvidia to implement two cores onto one pcb like they had done for the single card sli setups, but this time for quad sli.

My thoughts too. I had wondered from day one why they had used the stacker technique rather then this one. Still, DX10 is coming quicker than you know it, and I think it is getting old seeing the core after core being introduced. I keep thinking of the Tootsie Pop comercial,

"How many cores does it take to play a game?"
 
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I remember seeing this before and someone commented on the lack of the SLI bridge connector. I wonder if it's under, on the bottom PCB that we can't see, or if it even uses the bridge.
 

Cookie Monster

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Originally posted by: Powermoloch
I hope it can work on a single pci-e slot...without any SLi. Like that would happen

One 7950 GX2 card is a SLI setup. (need one PCI-e x16 slot) takes up two slots.
Two 7500 GX2 is a Quad SLi setup. (need 2 PCI-e x16 slot) takes up four just like a 7900GTX would.

The technology havent matured yet, but its really amazing that 4 cards consume less power than a X1900XTX crossfire!

Im beginning to suspect that NVs choice of releasing quad SLi now is because Vista is going to be delayed again (hope not).

DX10/Vista seems to be moving further and further away...
 

JackBurton

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Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
Originally posted by: Powermoloch
I hope it can work on a single pci-e slot...without any SLi. Like that would happen

One 7950 GX2 card is a SLI setup. (need one PCI-e x16 slot) takes up two slots.
Two 7500 GX2 is a Quad SLi setup. (need 2 PCI-e x16 slot) takes up four just like a 7900GTX would.

The technology havent matured yet, but its really amazing that 4 cards consume less power than a X1900XTX crossfire!

Im beginning to suspect that NVs choice of releasing quad SLi now is because Vista is going to be delayed again (hope not).

DX10/Vista seems to be moving further and further away...

I can wait until Vista and DX10. There are no games out that I can't play with quality details on my little 'ol 6800GT and Athlon XP chip (I'm only playing at 1280x960 though). But when I "upgrade" (basically means I'm going to build a whole new machine), NV and ATi should have some REALLY nice cards out by then. This card looks GREAT though. NV looks like they are REALLY pushing the envelope! Can't wait to see what they come up with in the Vista timeframe.
 

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Um, did anyone here actually look at anything apart from the power consumption page? The rest of the review clearly shows Quad SLI as totally unready for anyone to actually use. Would you not have expected it to have considerably better performance? What's the point in having "low" power consumption if you can't play more than 5 seconds of the year's biggest game without the whole system locking up? It doesn't even beat X1900 Crossfire in all benchmarks, and gets severely slapped in a couple. Should it not be thumping Crossfire fairly handily?

I've no doubt it'll improve with better drivers, but right now it looks like anyone who wants QuadSLI needs their head examined. And possibly to give me some of their money .
 

nitromullet

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This is pretty cool, but I'd really like to see something like this on NV's new 8-series, that (hopefully) will include such things as angle-indepenent AF and HDR+AA support. I've already owned dual 7800GTX's and dual 7900GTX's. IMO the G7x gpu was marvelous last summer, but it has been surpassed by R580 in performance and IQ. Even after all the attention NV got for poor AF quaility with the 7800's (HardOCP even admitted it eventually) they didn't do anything about it with the 7900's... I'm done with NV until they come out with a new gpu.

btw... here's another article with a better picture:

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,3727.html
 

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Originally posted by: Barkotron
Um, did anyone here actually look at anything apart from the power consumption page? The rest of the review clearly shows Quad SLI as totally unready for anyone to actually use. Would you not have expected it to have considerably better performance? What's the point in having "low" power consumption if you can't play more than 5 seconds of the year's biggest game without the whole system locking up? It doesn't even beat X1900 Crossfire in all benchmarks, and gets severely slapped in a couple. Should it not be thumping Crossfire fairly handily?

I've no doubt it'll improve with better drivers, but right now it looks like anyone who wants QuadSLI needs their head examined. And possibly to give me some of their money .

Yea we all know it doesn't beat crossfire, and most of us realize that sli's rendering modes were designed with 2 gpus in mind not 4, so they can't efficiently split up the work load.
 

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Originally posted by: The Dome
Originally posted by: Barkotron
Um, did anyone here actually look at anything apart from the power consumption page? The rest of the review clearly shows Quad SLI as totally unready for anyone to actually use. Would you not have expected it to have considerably better performance? What's the point in having "low" power consumption if you can't play more than 5 seconds of the year's biggest game without the whole system locking up? It doesn't even beat X1900 Crossfire in all benchmarks, and gets severely slapped in a couple. Should it not be thumping Crossfire fairly handily?

I've no doubt it'll improve with better drivers, but right now it looks like anyone who wants QuadSLI needs their head examined. And possibly to give me some of their money .

Yea we all know it doesn't beat crossfire, and most of us realize that sli's rendering modes were designed with 2 gpus in mind not 4, so they can't efficiently split up the work load.

Is this not a bit rubbish then? To be honest, it's not even that it doesn't beat Crossfire - right now, it looks like it doesn't even reliably beat half of its own configuration. Why is it even being released right now when it's in this kind of state? I don't think the rendering modes are a decent excuse. They've obviously adapted the rendering modes for 4 cards, and even added a new one which can only be done with 4, so the idea that the rendering modes were designed for a different config doesn't wash.

It just seems like a pretty half-assed implementation right now, presumably designed by the marketing department. I think X-bit got it spot on - "The continuous crashes, freezes and problems of the currently shipping Nvidia GeForce quad SLI systems may be associated with early revisions of the hardware, but as the hardware is shipping to customers, any issues with stability are totally unacceptable."

It's perfectly possible that QuadSLI will, eventually, be the greatest thing to hit video games yet, but the reviews seem to be pretty unanimous that it just isn't ready for release.
 

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Originally posted by: Barkotron
Originally posted by: The Dome
Originally posted by: Barkotron
Um, did anyone here actually look at anything apart from the power consumption page? The rest of the review clearly shows Quad SLI as totally unready for anyone to actually use. Would you not have expected it to have considerably better performance? What's the point in having "low" power consumption if you can't play more than 5 seconds of the year's biggest game without the whole system locking up? It doesn't even beat X1900 Crossfire in all benchmarks, and gets severely slapped in a couple. Should it not be thumping Crossfire fairly handily?

I've no doubt it'll improve with better drivers, but right now it looks like anyone who wants QuadSLI needs their head examined. And possibly to give me some of their money .

Yea we all know it doesn't beat crossfire, and most of us realize that sli's rendering modes were designed with 2 gpus in mind not 4, so they can't efficiently split up the work load.

Is this not a bit rubbish then? To be honest, it's not even that it doesn't beat Crossfire - right now, it looks like it doesn't even reliably beat half of its own configuration. Why is it even being released right now when it's in this kind of state? I don't think the rendering modes are a decent excuse. They've obviously adapted the rendering modes for 4 cards, and even added a new one which can only be done with 4, so the idea that the rendering modes were designed for a different config doesn't wash.

It just seems like a pretty half-assed implementation right now, presumably designed by the marketing department. I think X-bit got it spot on - "The continuous crashes, freezes and problems of the currently shipping Nvidia GeForce quad SLI systems may be associated with early revisions of the hardware, but as the hardware is shipping to customers, any issues with stability are totally unacceptable."

It's perfectly possible that QuadSLI will, eventually, be the greatest thing to hit video games yet, but the reviews seem to be pretty unanimous that it just isn't ready for release.

Agreed
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Barkotron
Originally posted by: The Dome
Originally posted by: Barkotron
Um, did anyone here actually look at anything apart from the power consumption page? The rest of the review clearly shows Quad SLI as totally unready for anyone to actually use. Would you not have expected it to have considerably better performance? What's the point in having "low" power consumption if you can't play more than 5 seconds of the year's biggest game without the whole system locking up? It doesn't even beat X1900 Crossfire in all benchmarks, and gets severely slapped in a couple. Should it not be thumping Crossfire fairly handily?

I've no doubt it'll improve with better drivers, but right now it looks like anyone who wants QuadSLI needs their head examined. And possibly to give me some of their money .

Yea we all know it doesn't beat crossfire, and most of us realize that sli's rendering modes were designed with 2 gpus in mind not 4, so they can't efficiently split up the work load.

Is this not a bit rubbish then? To be honest, it's not even that it doesn't beat Crossfire - right now, it looks like it doesn't even reliably beat half of its own configuration. Why is it even being released right now when it's in this kind of state? I don't think the rendering modes are a decent excuse. They've obviously adapted the rendering modes for 4 cards, and even added a new one which can only be done with 4, so the idea that the rendering modes were designed for a different config doesn't wash.

It just seems like a pretty half-assed implementation right now, presumably designed by the marketing department. I think X-bit got it spot on - "The continuous crashes, freezes and problems of the currently shipping Nvidia GeForce quad SLI systems may be associated with early revisions of the hardware, but as the hardware is shipping to customers, any issues with stability are totally unacceptable."

It's perfectly possible that QuadSLI will, eventually, be the greatest thing to hit video games yet, but the reviews seem to be pretty unanimous that it just isn't ready for release.

Right now the drivers are obviously not upto par and performance is suffering. At the very least it should beat a dual 7900 GPU config but sometimes it doesnt which tells me the drivers arent playing nice.

This will take some time to iron out and probably wont be ready for a few months. But like the first SLI release that saw limited benefits it will eventually provide a nice boost in performance.

The best part for me at least is this allow for an SLI setup without having to buy two cards.
 

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Remember what happened when Crossfire first came out, I seem to remember blue screens, random crashes, and only on certain games did it scale well. Shoot 6 months up and alot of those problems have been worked out, you just have to give it time. When they release new better drivers for support and a better rendering mode to be more efficient then we will see it's capabilities.
 

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While Nvidia Corp., the world?s major supplier of graphics processing units (GPUs), has been stressing that its technology involving four GPUs ? quad SLI ? is not for the ?do-it-yourself? (DIY) market, information that is available around the web indicates that the company and its add-in card partners are very likely to allow gamers to assemble systems with four GPUs at home.

Microstar International (MSI), a large manufacturer of graphics cards and other computer components, is reportedly preparing its MSI NX7950 GX2 graphics card, which will carry two GeForce 7900 graphics processors, which, theoretically, allows end-users to install two of such boards into one PC and get a system featuring quad SLI. General specifications of MSI?s NX7950 GX2 graphics cards are very likely to be similar with the GeForce 7900 GX2/7950 GX2 boards: has two GeForce 7900-series graphics processors clocked at 500MHz along with 1GB of 1200MHz 256-bit GDDR3 memory (512MB per chip).

A news-story by Clubic web-site suggests MSI will charge ?649 with taxes per NX7950 GX2 graphics card, though, it is unclear whether similar boards will cost $649 in the U.S., or more, as ?649 translates into $823, however, there is no value added tax, which can be 15% - 25%, in the USA. It is claimed that the dual-chip boards are to be released in mid-May.

Quad SLI allows to turn on 32x anti-aliasing, the maximum level possible today, or to play the latest games in 2560x1600 resolution. Currently quad SLI technology is positioned as a state-of-the-art technology for gaming enthusiasts who call for ultimate performance and quality. However, a recent technology review conducted by X-bit labs discovered that the technology may not provide absolutely fastest performance even in 2560x1600 resolution, where GeForce 7900 quad SLI lost to the Radeon X1900 XT CrossFire setup, and also suffers from driver problems.

Current quad SLI solutions use pretty bulky GeForce 7900 GX2 graphics cards that do not fit into the majority of computer cases. But recently published pictures of the new GeForce 7950 GX2 boards reveal that the novelties will be much shorter compared to the recently reviewed GeForce 7900 GX2 graphics cards. Based on the quick view of the picture, it can be noticed that the model 7950 GX2 has much less elements, particularly, in power supply circuitry, something, which may imply that the card carries a special flavour of the G71 chip with trimmed power consumption.

Santa Clara, Califonia-based Nvidia does not currently sell the GeForce 7900 GX2 graphics cards in retail, but only allows certain system builders to build quad SLI systems. It is uncertain whether Nvidia?s drivers allow to form four-way GPU setup using the 7950 GX2 cards, or leave quad SLI for system builders. However, the release of a dual-chip GeForce 7900 product may allow Nvidia to formally claim victory over ATI Technologies in terms of single-board solution performance, as two GeForce 7900 chips are capable of outperforming one ATI?s Radeon X1900 XTX.

MSI and Nvidia did not comment on the news-story.
 
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