8.8 Earthquake hits Japan

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iGas

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No, you're not getting my point at all...the 10,000 dead estimate is just that an estimate...without the actual bodies to back it up. I also expect the numbers to be MUCH higher before this is all done.






The Pacific Northwest is in a subduction zone just like Japan. Should there ever be "the big one," you'll likely get hurt worse than California. We're on a "strike/slip" fault. (the plates slide past each other instead of one getting pushed under the other)


The Juan De Fuca Plate is a subduction plate and it seems to slips easily under the North America Plate, and the rocks are relatively young/porous/buoyant (10 million years instead of 100 million years) due to it close proximity to the fault ridge. It can get caught up with the North America Plate and produce mega earthquakes as other locations that have similar condition.

It has been suggested by scientists that the North West might experience multiple 8+ earthquakes or a mega 9+ earthquake, possibly 9.5.
 
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BoomerD

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I read in one of the stories that a crane operator was killed in the blast at one of the nuke plants.
 

Nik

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It has been suggested by scientists that the North West might experience multiple 8+ earthquakes or a mega 9+ earthquake, possibly 9.5.

Freaky.

Thankfully, the Cascade mountain rage will shield me from tsunami so it's all good :awe:
 

Locut0s

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Freaky.

Thankfully, the Cascade mountain rage will shield me from tsunami so it's all good :awe:

The piled up bodies of those of us on the West coast will protect all of you thankless "Easters".
 

DCal430

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The Juan De Fuca Plate is a subduction plate and it seems to slips easily under the North America Plate, and the rocks are relatively young/porous/buoyant (10 million years instead of 100 million years) due to it close proximity to the fault ridge. It can get caught up with the North America Plate and produce mega earthquakes as other locations that have similar condition.

It has been suggested by scientists that the North West might experience multiple 8+ earthquakes or a mega 9+ earthquake, possibly 9.5.

Last there was significant slipage in northern california too. Could produce a large tsunami towards the california bay area.
 

Scouzer

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Is it just me or does anyone else have a new found respect/fear of nuclear power? Any other major nuclear disaster in the past AFAIK has been a fast sequence of events leading to a major catastrophe.

In the case of Japan, they have their finest minds working 24/7 for days and they still can't get the reactors under control.

That scares the shit out of me. The fast sequence events resulting from equipment failure or human factors makes sense to me, but when they have days to bring a situation back into control and they can't... good lord. This technology isn't ready for prime time.
 

Nox51

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you do realize they are working is a zone that has been hit by a 8.9 earthquake and 10m high tsunami right? Do the words total devastation mean anything to you?

And go read the link posted above about what actually happened at the reactors
 

Scouzer

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you do realize they are working is a zone that has been hit by a 8.9 earthquake and 10m high tsunami right? Do the words total devastation mean anything to you?

And go read the link posted above about what actually happened at the reactors

I don't care what natural disaster caused this. Earthquakes and tsunamis are a normal part of life for Japan, and the systems were under designed. I've read the link and my opinion stands.

A nuclear plant must be designed for any possible scenario in its physical location. Guess what, an 8.9 earthquake has happened in the past near Japan, happened this time, and will happen again in the future. These plants were designed for an 8.2, which is fucking nuts.
 

tcsenter

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In the case of Japan, they have their finest minds working 24/7 for days and they still can't get the reactors under control.
Calm down. Using seawater to cool reactors after primary cooling system failure is not at all bad. It is effective (though much less so, obviously), results in a short-term release of rather low-level radiation that can be cleaned-up or will simply get diluted to negligible levels after the contaminated water is pumped back to the ocean. This is not Chernobyl, where the reactor did not even have a containment vessel or structure of any kind.

The problem is that primary cooling systems are very high-performance, mostly controlled with lots of automation and high-tech gizmos. All that is bypassed when you use seawater and it has to be controlled almost entirely by a sort of 'seat-of-the-pants' type of process by engineers and physicists doing a lot of things manually. Its very touch-and-go for a while.

That's why it is taking so long to get the reactors cooled in a consistent way, not because they can't do it or there is some uncontrolled meltdown underway.
 

Scouzer

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Calm down. Using seawater to cool reactors after primary cooling system failure is not at all bad. It is effective (though much less so, obviously), results in a short-term release of rather low-level radiation that can be cleaned-up or will simply get diluted to negligible levels after the contaminated water is pumped back to the ocean. This is not Chernobyl, where the reactor did not even have a containment vessel or structure of any kind.

The problem is that primary cooling systems are very high-performance, mostly controlled with lots of automation and high-tech gizmos. All that is bypassed when you use seawater and it has to be controlled almost entirely by a sort of 'seat-of-the-pants' type of process by engineers and physicists doing a lot of things manually. Its very touch-and-go for a while.

That's why it is taking so long to get the reactors cooled in a consistent way, not because they can't do it or there is some uncontrolled meltdown underway.

I read the article and I follow that, but really... this should never have happened as it did.
 

Anneka

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Japan is a proud and working society. It will recover for sure from this disaster. Remember the nuclear bombs and how they managed to rise like a phoenix bird. I have the trust that this will be the same.
 

sdifox

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Just heard that 2000 bodies washed up on the shoreline.

I think more will show up in the next few days.

RIP
 

Cuda1447

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Just heard that 2000 bodies washed up on the shoreline.

I think more will show up in the next few days.

RIP

Yea, I can't imagine the death toll being anything less than 10's of thousands, if not approaching 100k.
 
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