8 Men Found Slain on Canadian Farmland

Alistar7

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SHEDDEN, Ontario - The bodies of eight men were found inside four vehicles abandoned in a remote wooded area on a farmer's property in rural southwestern Canada.

Police were not disclosing many details about the deaths in rural Ontario, about 20 miles southwest of the city of London, except to say that four vehicles were involved, including a tow truck, and that the dead were all men. They were found Saturday morning.

"We're not in a position to reveal how they were murdered," Ontario Provincial Police Sgt. Dave Rektor said.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060409/ap_on_re_ca/canada_bodies_found




That's just weird, especially with the multiple vehicles. Anyone have any other information on this crime?

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Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Alistar7
SHEDDEN, Ontario - The bodies of eight men were found inside four vehicles abandoned in a remote wooded area on a farmer's property in rural southwestern Canada.

Police were not disclosing many details about the deaths in rural Ontario, about 20 miles southwest of the city of London, except to say that four vehicles were involved, including a tow truck, and that the dead were all men. They were found Saturday morning.

"We're not in a position to reveal how they were murdered," Ontario Provincial Police Sgt. Dave Rektor said.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060409/ap_on_re_ca/canada_bodies_found




That's just weird, especially with the multiple vehicles. Anyone have any other information on this crime?
Of course! The people who did it do. Geez? You would think that would be obvious.

 

Alistar7

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Could have been a multiple murder, then suicide, no one to answer the questions. You would think that would be obvious.....

Stunt:

BTW Shedden is only 40miles from me...


So where were YOU that night lol.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Stunt
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Maybe the Hells Angels?
There's a sh!tstorm brewing down here in the lower 48 between them and the Outlaw MC, maybe this is the fallout from it. Are there any Rival MC's of the HA's in that area?
 

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ON a side note:
Since when is Ontario considered SW Canada
 
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Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
ON a side note:
Since when is Ontario considered SW Canada

It's about as far south as you can get while still being in Canada ...

Think they meant SW Ont.

- M4H
 

Stunt

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Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
ON a side note:
Since when is Ontario considered SW Canada
Since Americans started writing about Canadian murders...don't you guys have any down there you can write about.
 

Stunt

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Alistar7
That's just weird, especially with the multiple vehicles.
Anyone have any other information on this crime?
Well, either it's Political or Brokeback Mountain X4. <shrugs>
I think it may have to do with the Liberals despiration in the last election.
 
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Stunt
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Maybe the Hells Angels?
There's a sh!tstorm brewing down here in the lower 48 between them and the Outlaw MC, maybe this is the fallout from it. Are there any Rival MC's of the HA's in that area?

The Outlaws have a fairly hefty Ontario presence, so you're probably spot on. I know there was a big clash between them and the HA's in my old hometown - they wanted the border traffic to themselves, and weren't willing to share with any newcomers or locals.

- M4H
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Alistar7
Could have been a multiple murder, then suicide, no one to answer the questions. You would think that would be obvious.....

Leave it to somebody who missed the obvious the first time to call the profoundly unlikely the obvious, hehe. I will bet on my obvious, do you want to bet on yours?

 

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Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Alistar7
That's just weird, especially with the multiple vehicles.
Anyone have any other information on this crime?
Well, either it's Political or Brokeback Mountain X4. <shrugs>
I think it may have to do with the Liberals despiration in the last election.

Maybe it was Clinton!

Did they find a stained blue dress discarded in the woods?

 

Thump553

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According to news reports here, last weekend the president of the Bridgeport, CT was gunned down in broad daylight on I-95 by four guys in a green SUV. Just before the shooting another Hell's Angels (there were about 20 riding together) threw a wrench at the SUV. Since then there have been at least two arrests of Hells Angels in a different town near an Outlaws gang members house, armed and with a copy of a secret CT state patrol report on bike gangs in their possession.

Those unfamiliar with CT, I-95 is extremely busy, being the main highway linking NYC and Boston. The murder here seems like it was designed to be as public an affront to the Hell's Angels as possible-broad daylight, busy highway, shot down while leading an entire pack of Angels on a run.

It's very speculative, but it seems like there may be a classic gangland war brewing among the outlaw bike gangs. Ironically, I just finished reading an interesting book on an ATF agent that spent two years undercover in Mongol Nation, an outlaw bike gang: Alone and Undercover
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Thump553
According to news reports here, last weekend the president of the Bridgeport, CT was gunned down in broad daylight on I-95 by four guys in a green SUV. Just before the shooting another Hell's Angels (there were about 20 riding together) threw a wrench at the SUV. Since then there have been at least two arrests of Hells Angels in a different town near an Outlaws gang members house, armed and with a copy of a secret CT state patrol report on bike gangs in their possession.

Those unfamiliar with CT, I-95 is extremely busy, being the main highway linking NYC and Boston. The murder here seems like it was designed to be as public an affront to the Hell's Angels as possible-broad daylight, busy highway, shot down while leading an entire pack of Angels on a run.

It's very speculative, but it seems like there may be a classic gangland war brewing among the outlaw bike gangs. Ironically, I just finished reading an interesting book on an ATF agent that spent two years undercover in Mongol Nation, an outlaw bike gang: Alone and Undercover
I read that book too. The Mongols are the baddest of the bad since they due much of their recruiting in the CA Prison system and East LA Latino gangs.

It seems there might be a huge war brewing not only between the Outlaws and the HA's but also the Bandidos, Mongols and Pagans against the HA's as there has been violent incidents against the HA's recently by all of the MC's mentioned (Mongols in CA a couple of months ago and in Laughlin 3 years ago, Pagan's in Philly a couple of months ago and Bandidos in Houston two weeks ago) There also has been shooting involving the HA's and the Finks in Australia a couple of weeks ago. The Pagans, Outlaws, Mongols, Banditos and their puppet clubs all
have a loose alliance with each other and a deep hatred for the Hells Angels.

This could be worse the the Biker Wars in Quebec back in the 90's between the Rock Machine (who've since been patched over to the Bandidos) and the HA's where more than 60 people lost their lives, some of them citizens.

Police ready for violence: Hells Angeles could attack motorcycle club in Waterbury
 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Alistar7
That's just weird, especially with the multiple vehicles.
Anyone have any other information on this crime?
Well, either it's Political or Brokeback Mountain X4. <shrugs>
I think it may have to do with the Liberals despiration in the last election.

Sounds mopre like illegal aliens to me.
 

Lord Athlon

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I don't know for sure if these eight murders are related to the Bikers gang but it does look like it to me.

The MO is very similar to the many murders commited during the Rock Machine vs Hells Angels war of the 90's in Quebec.There was some rumors in the papers here in Montreal that the war was about to start again except that this time it would be global instead of local.

I lived in the "hot" zone during the 90's so i really hope that this ****** won't start all over again.During the peak of the war , i was hearing gunshots and detonations on a weekly basis around my apartement.It was very intense and scary to say the least.

On a positive note , the Rock Machine/Bandidos don't exist anymore here in Quebec.The leaders of the gang actually decided to do a 180 and in a shocking move they joined the Hells in 2003 The HA now have the monopoly in the province so hopefully that means no other war.The bandidos still have a presence in most other Canadian provinces though so the war may start over there this time.

In any case , i firmly think that these groups should be outlawed in Canada like they are in many other countries.They are gangsters and their criminal history should be enough to prevent them to enter and etablish themself in the country.

 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Lord Athlon
I don't know for sure if these eight murders are related to the Bikers gang but it does look like it to me.

The MO is very similar to the many murders commited during the Rock Machine vs Hells Angels war of the 90's in Quebec.There was some rumors in the papers here in Montreal that the war was about to start again except that this time it would be global instead of local.

I lived in the "hot" zone during the 90's so i really hope that this ****** won't start all over again.During the peak of the war , i was hearing gunshots and detonations on a weekly basis around my apartement.It was very intense and scary to say the least.

On a positive note , the Rock Machine/Bandidos don't exist anymore here in Quebec.The leaders of the gang actually decided to do a 180 and in a shocking move they joined the Hells in 2003 The HA now have the monopoly in the province so hopefully that means no other war.The bandidos still have a presence in most other Canadian provinces though so the war may start over there this time.

In any case , i firmly think that these groups should be outlawed in Canada like they are in many other countries.They are gangsters and their criminal history should be enough to prevent them to enter and etablish themself in the country.
How can you outlaw the right to assemble in a democratic country? Keep them from wearing their colors? Keep them from entering Canada? Pssst, they are Canadians, not Americans moving to Canada.

 

Lord Athlon

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How can you outlaw the right to assemble in a democratic country?

This has nothing to do with the right to assemble but everything to do with the organization itself.I don't see the HA as a gang of bikers who assemble just to ride and party together.I see them as an organized criminal enterprise ready to do anything to protect their drug , extortion and sex buisness.

Note that i am really biased on this since my whole neighborhood lived under their rule for a few years back in the 90's.

Keep them from wearing their colors?

Not sure about this (or the rest of Canada) but i think that they can't wear their colors in public anymore here in Quebec.

Keep them from entering Canada?

It's already like that in Canada.

From the Hells Angels own site :

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Question : My friend told me that that Hells Angels aren't allowed in some countries but i don't beleive him.

Answer : You friend is right.Most federal agencies around the world have a list of Hells Angels members which they furnish to customs in many countries.As an exemple a non - Canadian resident Hells Angels member cannot enter Canada , even if he has no police record , only that he's a member ; many other countries are like that too.Yes , it's unconstitutional , and yes the governement will do nothing about it.

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This is a good thing imho.The last thing we need is more HA members coming to Canada as "refugee" from the other chapters



 

3chordcharlie

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:music:I destroyed the map I even thought I forgot it / However everyday 'm dumping the bodies... :music:

Too much speculation already on this - there was a long article about how it might be Toronto-area Bikers, etc, etc... I mean come on! London has more bikers than Toronto, and we don't have any information about this (at least the public doesn't). I understand that it's exciting and all, I mean 8 dead bodies is sexy, 3-inch headline news... but there's not even 3-inches of decent article to put with it... so why bother?
 

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I was involved during the morning on Saturday when I helped setup the investigators through my work. Didn't think it would hit the news but it seemed pretty serious.

Other then that I can't talk about it.
 

Martin

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Originally posted by: catnap1972
Obviously it's Al Qaeda's doing (the tow truck gives it away)

I agree, though it is undoubtely linked to liberals in some way. Every evil deed is, after all...
 
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