800GB of writes in 2 months with page file disabled? (SSD)

[soccerballtux]

after 6 months of ownership I'm already at 98% lifetime...is this normal?

writes are sitting at 2843GB and reads at 1623GB. :$ I disabled hiberfil.sys so that it won't write 32GB out whenever I suspend my PC. The month after I did this, I only accrued 100GB of writes, and thought I had solved my issues. I come back 2 months later I'm 800GB further.

 

[w0ss]

I went through the same thing recently. I used up 6TB of writes in a year. Still got awhile till it is warn out but I guess I have write endurance anxiety.

The resource monitor in windows 7 or newer is a huge help as it can monitor what program is writing to the SSD.

 

[ignatzatsonic]

I get about 5 GB per day on a very ordinary system, nothing demanding or unusual. No hibernation file. Page file at 1 GB min and 2 GB max.

That's been true for 4 years, covering 2 different SSDs.

My original Intel 80 GB SSD did fail (connector failure unrelated to NAND), but it was 3 years old before remaining life slipped below 100%--for whatever that it is worth.

 

[larryccf]

the lowest write life i've seen quoted by any ssd mfgr was 72 TB - even that amount would take 4-5 years for a medium level user

fwiw

 

[bradly1101]

Programs have caches (like Photoshop, Bridge, Lightroom, DX0, etc.).

 

[tcsenter]

Any virtual machines in use?

 

[Elixer]

I come back 2 months later I'm 800GB further.

So, you are using ~13GB/day?
Run resource monitor, and check what is writing so much data...

 

[SSBrain]

after 6 months of ownership I'm already at 98% lifetime...is this normal?

I would say yes. Have you realized that 2% in 6 months means 100% in 25 years?

writes are sitting at 2843GB and reads at 1623GB. :$ I disabled hiberfil.sys so that it won't write 32GB out whenever I suspend my PC.

Hibernation only writes, after compressing it, the ram that is actively in use, excluding caches. So, if at any time your system is using 3 GB of ram, chances are that it will write 1 GB or so, perhaps even less, if you choose to hibernate it. You would have to hibernate the system several times a day with very high RAM occupation for it to have practical impact on long term SSD endurance.

The month after I did this, I only accrued 100GB of writes, and thought I had solved my issues. I come back 2 months later I'm 800GB further.

It's likely it didn't have any bearing with this "issue".

At this level (rather light usage) the web browser cache is likely to have a much larger impact on SSD writes. Changes in internet usage (for example if you started using heavily HD video streaming from Youtube and the like) might have increased them.

Or if you reinstalled/cloned the system a few times recently, that might have caused most of the writes.

But again, it's not really an issue yet, at this rate.

So, you are using ~13GB/day?
Run resource monitor, and check what is writing so much data...

13 GB/day is not much data at all, especially if the PC is 24/7.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Swapfile or torrents may be the reason.

But still plenty of years left.

My 480GB M500 have written 8.78TB now. Close to 10000 hours operation and life is 98%. 80 writes per block in average. Not that it matters as we have seen with endurance tests. So if I am unlucky I may only have 10-20 years left in it. Sarcasm can appear.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

13GB a day isn't super-horrible. Running any DC projects?

98% lifespan left after 6 months is 25 years of life, btw. So stop worrying and love the SSD.

 

[VirtualLarry]

13GB a day isn't super-horrible. Running any DC projects?

98% lifespan left after 6 months is 25 years of life, btw. So stop worrying and love the SSD.

Dr. StrangeData?

 

[dave_the_nerd]

Dr. StrangeData?

 

[soccerballtux]

I would say yes. Have you realized that 2% in 6 months means 100% in 25 years?


Hibernation only writes, after compressing it, the ram that is actively in use, excluding caches. So, if at any time your system is using 3 GB of ram, chances are that it will write 1 GB or so, perhaps even less, if you choose to hibernate it. You would have to hibernate the system several times a day with very high RAM occupation for it to have practical impact on long term SSD endurance.


It's likely it didn't have any bearing with this "issue".

At this level (rather light usage) the web browser cache is likely to have a much larger impact on SSD writes. Changes in internet usage (for example if you started using heavily HD video streaming from Youtube and the like) might have increased them.

Or if you reinstalled/cloned the system a few times recently, that might have caused most of the writes.

But again, it's not really an issue yet, at this rate.



13 GB/day is not much data at all, especially if the PC is 24/7.

every time you suspend your PC, it writes the RAM contents to the hiberfil in case of power outage. I suspend multiple times/day, usually 3, sometimes as high as 5. However, this is the thing I disabled-- I was averaging 100GB of writes/day before I disabled it.

I have the webbrowser caches on a file-backed RAMdisk (file is on HDD, not SSD). I have the swap file disabled.

qbittorrent has a 500MB buffer before writing to HDD (not SSD).

I'll take a look at the resource monitor or whatever. I just cranky that it's already at 98% when I just bought it.

 

[SSBrain]

I relatively often used hibernation in Windows 7 and 8 and measured the impact on host writes from SMART data every time I did it and I've never observed such a high amount of writes from it. The feature doesn't write the entire RAM content to the drive, and the compression it uses (which is sort of configurable with powercfg from command line options) can reduce write load significantly in most cases. Given that after resuming from hibernation caches/buffers have to be replenished, I would say that supports my observations.

Either your typical active system memory occupation is very high for some reason (which might be the case if you have to have 32 GB of RAM) or it's something else. And if your memory occupation is often close to 100% then additional writes could be coming from programs trying to swap data to the SSD in order to circumvent their apparent lack of free memory. Photoshop's "scratch files" for example are a sort of dedicated swap area independent of Windows' paging file. Other resource-intensive applications may use something similar as well.

Windows alone won't write a great deal of data to the SSD, even with default settings and especially with such a high amount of ram. It's really about the programs in use and your usage and without additional information there's not much one can tell. AFAIK, for example, DVB-T (digital TV) adapters can indirectly cause tens of GB of writes a day because of the video buffer certain programs maintain (like Windows Media Center does).

You can check out if there are processes performing an abnormally large amount of writes from Task Manager by enabling the "I/O write bytes" column in the process list view.

 

[Fred B]

every time you suspend your PC, it writes the RAM contents to the hiberfil in case of power outage. I suspend multiple times/day, usually 3, sometimes as high as 5. However, this is the thing I disabled-- I was averaging 100GB of writes/day before I disabled it.

I have the webbrowser caches on a file-backed RAMdisk (file is on HDD, not SSD). I have the swap file disabled.

qbittorrent has a 500MB buffer before writing to HDD (not SSD).

I'll take a look at the resource monitor or whatever. I just cranky that it's already at 98% when I just bought it.

It does not matter if page is disabled or on other hd/ssd , the problem is the way the browser use meta-files and put them on system drive . These files are temporarily and invisible but can write a lot , this is one that is used a lot C: \ $ConvertToNonresident .