I've had a Hercules 8500le, 64meg (don't remember the model number). It scored 7963 3dmarks (2001se) in a AXP 1600. The best GF3 ti-200 score I ever got was 7566 in an AXP 3200 w/ 512 megs ram. So, I'd recommend the 8500le, but they are really quite comparable.