Question 860 evo or 970 evo Μ.2?

[manolaren]

Hi.
I have an 850 Evo 250GB and it's time to install someone bigger in capacity. I am between the 860 Evo 1TB and the 970 Evo M.2. 1ΤΒ. The pc is i5-6600k, GTX680, Asus Z170-A, 16GB DDR4 and I use it mainly to play any MMO and RPG.
Therefore I would like to ask for two things.
1. Is it worth the higher money (~ 30 euros in my Country) than the 970 costs and if so for what use of the computer? Are the huge write and read values real or they are only valid in special cases? Will I see an improvement in gaming?
2. Can I have the already existing 850 Evo with the 860 Evo or the 970 Evo at the same time on the specific motherboard and if so will I lose something in bandwidth?
Thanks!

 

[UsandThem]

For such a small difference, I'd go with the 970 EVO. It's nice to have the extra speed, and you can always use in your next build.

That said, the 970 EVO was replaced by the 970 EVO Plus some time ago. Having one NVMe drive, and one SATA drive for games/programs will not cause any performance loss or issues.

 

[manolaren]

I m close to pick 970 evo nvme m.2 but i see many complaints about high temps. Is there indeed an issue with temps and is it something i should seriously consider before buying it?
*I have a Phanteks full tower case with a 200mm fan in front and a 140mm in the back and i have no issues with high temps in general, except the GTX680 which has high temps on its own (~80 on games), whether i have a good air flow or not.

 

[UsandThem]

I m close to pick 970 evo nvme m.2 but i see many complaints about high temps. Is there indeed an issue with temps and is it something i should seriously consider before buying it?
*I have a Phanteks full tower case with a 200mm fan in front and a 140mm in the back and i have no issues with high temps in general, except the GTX680 which has high temps on its own (~80 on games), whether i have a good air flow or not.

You can read the various 970 EVO reviews out there to see about the temperatures. Average users aren't going to have any issues.

Plus, if for some reason you are using the drive so much that it throttles, you can add a $10 NVMe heatsink and lower the temps.

 

[daveybrat]

You might want to check and see if the Western Digital Black SN750 1TB NVMe drive is also available. It's just about the same speed as that Samsung 970 but runs a bit cooler and costs less. Same 5-year warranty and rock solid.

 

[manolaren]

I also noticed that using the M.2 socket on my Asus Z170-A will disable the SATA Express port. Am I going to miss something important? What exactly can be used on a SATA Express port?

 

[daveybrat]

I also noticed that using the M.2 socket on my Asus Z170-A will disable the SATA Express port. Am I going to miss something important? What exactly can be used on a SATA Express port?

You won't miss anything. Sata Express never caught on, you'll basically just lose 2 sata ports that you'll probably never use anyways.

 

[manolaren]

So as a final suggestion, do you think for 35 euros more i should go for 970 evo plus 1TB over 860 evo 1TB, if i use my pc mostly for gaming/browsing/microsoft office use etc?
Thank you!

 

[UsandThem]

So as a final suggestion, do you think for 35 euros more i should go for 970 evo plus 1TB over 860 evo 1TB, if i use my pc mostly for gaming/browsing/microsoft office use etc?
Thank you!

You asked the exact same question in your first post, and he responded to it with a recommendation.

Do you want him to reconsider his answer or something?

 

[manolaren]

You asked the exact same question in your first post, and he responded to it with a recommendation.

Do you want him to reconsider his answer or something?

Yes, I m sorry for the inconvenience, I just found 970 Evo Plus on sale instead of 970 Evo in the first post and I wanted to know if this is something that counts even more towards the 970 instead of 860

 

[UsandThem]

Yes, I m sorry for the inconvenience, I just found 970 Evo Plus on sale instead of 970 Evo in the first post and I wanted to know if this is something that counts even more towards the 970 instead of 860

The first question was a difference of 30 Euros. Now the difference is 35 Euros for a slightly faster version of the Samsung EVO line.

Outside of that, it's the same thing we started at. You aren't a power user who writes huge amounts of data, so won't see any difference outside of running benchmarks. However, 35 Euros isn't a huge price difference, so maybe look at a few reviews (plenty out there for the 970 EVO, 970 EVO Plus, and 860 EVO), and see if it's worth it to you.

Edit:

Here's an old thread that talks all about the speed differences, and it has video reviews and other links to further read up on the subject of SATA vs. PCIe SSDs:

http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=threads/benefits-of-nvme-for-casual-pc-users.2541982/

 

[manolaren]

While I m aware that using a 970 Evo plus now I won't notice any improvement in gaming, I m thinking if it will have a future use. If games or other "casual" applications will shotly take advantage and use the speeds of m.2/nvme drives.
I also wonder if the new techs, other than huge speeds, that nvme offers is something worth considering over the SATA ones.

 

[UsandThem]

While I m aware that using a 970 Evo plus now I won't notice any improvement in gaming, I m thinking if it will have a future use. If games or other "casual" applications will shotly take advantage and use the speeds of m.2/nvme drives.
I also wonder if the new techs, other than huge speeds, that nvme offers is something worth considering over the SATA ones.

Yes, I understand your question.

PCIe drives have been out for many years already. You're not going to wake up one day in a year, and have the drive suddenly give you a big performance increase with what you do with your PC.

There is not much price difference between the 860 EVO and either Samsung NVMe drive, so why not just pay the difference and not worry about it? It's been 12 days since your original question was answered, but you're still debating it. I don't know what else you need to know in order to make an informed purchase decision?

 

[manolaren]

Tomorrow is the day that both 970 and 860 will be available to my local store and the day I'll buy one of them, that's why I wanted one last opinion. I m sorry if I annoyed anyone.

 

[UsandThem]

Tomorrow is the day that both 970 and 860 will be available to my local store and the day I'll buy one of them, that's why I wanted one last opinion. I m sorry if I annoyed anyone.

There a ton of YouTube videos where people compare the two drives, and post the differences. Just watch some of those, and then decide if the faster drive makes sense for you or not. Even in the older SSD thread I linked above, you will find all the info there that's needed to know in order to make your purchase. The video is especially good as they time things like games loading times.

 

[manolaren]

Thank you very much!