8800GT 256mb vs 3870 512mb vs 3850 512mb

[thedonutman]

My budget is around 150 max (the price of the 3870)

I can get the 8800GT for around 120-30, and the 3850 for the same price.

I've got a 6600GT right now

Looking at the benchmarks, the 3870 and the 8800GT are pretty similar, I just want to know how much difference the extra RAM makes.

(I'll be running at a max of 1280x1024 probably)


Prices in pounds by the way.

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

If the 3850 and 8800GT are the same price, go with the latter. It leads by 5-10 FPS in most games.

 

[darkxknight]

where are 3850s 250 usd???

msrp for 3850s are about 84 pounds. which is about 170 USD. some even go for 160 USD.

if you're looking for ABSOLUTE performance, go with the gt.

if u're looking for cooler, quieter, less power consumption at a 10-15% performance loss, go with 3870.

 

[zeroburrito]

the 8800gt 256 completely humiliates the other 2 cards in any resolution.

 

[thedonutman]

The 512mb 3850 over here is around £120, and the 256 is around £100. The 2870 is around 140-150. And the cheapest 8800GT is 120-130 ish.

So at the price of the GT 256mb, its between that and the 3850 512mb.

 

[AzN]

Get whatever you can afford but make sure it has 512meg.

 

[tuteja1986]

Originally posted by: zeroburrito
the 8800gt 256 completely humiliates the other 2 cards in any resolution.

THATS BS


Computerbase

HD3870 512
8800GT 512
HD3850 256

DX 9 benchmark

Anno 1701 1600x1200 4xAA/16xAF
HD3870 : 35,7
8800GT : 31,3
HD3850 : 30,6

Clive Barker's Jericho 1600x1200 8xAA/16xAF:
HD3870 : 15,6
8800GT : 5,6
HD3850 : 1,3

Colin McRae Dirt 1600x1200 4xAA/16xAF
HD3870 : 15,8
8800GT : 4,5
HD3850 : 4,3

Company of heroes 1600x1200 8xAA/16xAF
8800GT : 64,2
HD3870 : 58,7
HD3850 : 18,6

F.E.A.R 1600x1200 8xAA/16xAF:
HD3870 : 40
8800GT : 40
HD3850 : 33


Gothic 3 1600x1200 16xAF:
8800GT : 37,6
HD3870 : 20,8
HD3850 : 18,0

Oblivion 1600x1200 8xAA/16xAF:
HD3870 : 39,7
8800GT : 35,7
HD3850 : 34,3

Prey 1600x1200 8xAA/16xAF:
HD3870 : 43,8
8800GT : 36,4
HD3850 : 36,9

Rainbow Six Vegas ? 1600x1200
HD3870 : 46,3
8800GT : 40,2
HD3850 : 39,7

Stalker 1600x1200 1xAA/16xAF:
HD3870 : 31,5
8800GT : 19,6
HD3850 : 14,0

DX10 benchmark

Bioshock 1600x1200 1xAA/16xAF:
HD3870 : 37,0
8800GT : 42,8
HD3850 : 31,8

Call of Juarez 1600x1200 4xAA/16xAF:
HD3870 : 16,8
8800GT : 10,3
HD3850 : 6,3

Company of Heroes 1600x1200 8xAA/16xAF:

HD3870 : 20,1
8800GT : 16,3
HD3850 : 14,6

Crysis 1600x1200 4xAA/16xAF
HD3870 : 10,6
8800GT : 7,6
HD3850 : 4,3

Lost Planet 1600x1200 8xAA/16xAF Snow:
HD3870 : 18,8
8800GT : 16,3
HD3850 : 7,8

World in conflict 1600x1200 4xAA/16xAF:
HD3870 : 28,4
8800GT : 37,5
HD3850 : 23,9







Quality Performance Rating (all results benmarking of all games in show in perfomance percentage )

Rating 1600x1200 8xAA/16xAF

8800 Ultra : 172,8
HD 3870 : 156,2
8800 GT : 129,9
HD 3850 : 100,0

 

[Aiden]

Between the 8800GT 256 and the 3850 256 i would say the GT is the better choice. You are better off though going with the 3870 as your best bet,if you can afford it, it will allow you to enable aa/af at the resolution you stated.

 

[taltamir]

is that 1.3 FPS on some of those benchmarks? way to go finding some unrealistic benchmarks to skew results... who cares... And those results are heavily and artificially skewed in AMD's favor.

 

[tuteja1986]

Originally posted by: taltamir
is that 1.3 FPS on some of those benchmarks? way to go finding some unrealistic benchmarks to skew results... who cares... And those results are heavily and artificially skewed in AMD's favor.

http://www.computerbase.de/art..._radeon_hd_3850_rv670/
Computer base is a highly respectable website :!

 

[SniperDaws]

Originally posted by: tuteja1986

Originally posted by: taltamir
is that 1.3 FPS on some of those benchmarks? way to go finding some unrealistic benchmarks to skew results... who cares... And those results are heavily and artificially skewed in AMD's favor.

http://www.computerbase.de/art..._radeon_hd_3850_rv670/
Computer base is a highly respectable website :!

That link doesnt tally up with the benchmarks you provided.

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: thedonutman
The 512mb 3850 over here is around £120, and the 256 is around £100. The 2870 is around 140-150. And the cheapest 8800GT is 120-130 ish.

So at the price of the GT 256mb, its between that and the 3850 512mb.

£95 for a 256MB HD3850 from Overclockers.co.uk
£111 for a 512MB HD3850 from the same site.
£120 or so for an 8800GT 256MB
£150 or so for an HD3870

 

[tuteja1986]

Originally posted by: SniperDaws

Originally posted by: tuteja1986

Originally posted by: taltamir
is that 1.3 FPS on some of those benchmarks? way to go finding some unrealistic benchmarks to skew results... who cares... And those results are heavily and artificially skewed in AMD's favor.

http://www.computerbase.de/art..._radeon_hd_3850_rv670/
Computer base is a highly respectable website :!

That link doesnt tally up with the benchmarks you provided.

yes it does :!

err , i think you have trouble actually analyzing review :!

This is tally of benchmarking


Performance Rating :!
http://translate.google.com/tr...de%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

 

[tuteja1986]

Originally posted by: Lonyo

Originally posted by: thedonutman
The 512mb 3850 over here is around £120, and the 256 is around £100. The 2870 is around 140-150. And the cheapest 8800GT is 120-130 ish.

So at the price of the GT 256mb, its between that and the 3850 512mb.

£95 for a 256MB HD3850 from Overclockers.co.uk
£111 for a 512MB HD3850 from the same site.
£120 or so for an 8800GT 256MB
£150 or so for an HD3870

8800GT 256MB for £120 , where you get that because my pal at UK has been to upgrade his graphic card

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: tuteja1986

Originally posted by: taltamir
is that 1.3 FPS on some of those benchmarks? way to go finding some unrealistic benchmarks to skew results... who cares... And those results are heavily and artificially skewed in AMD's favor.

http://www.computerbase.de/art..._radeon_hd_3850_rv670/
Computer base is a highly respectable website :!

You mean for those of us who have even heard of it? Nah Tut. Use the bench sites we all commonly put at least some stock in. FS, AT, Xbit.

All of a sudden, computerbase is "da bomb".

 

[aldamon]

Originally posted by: Aiden
Between the 8800GT 256 and the 3850 256 i would say the GT is the better choice. You are better off though going with the 3870 as your best bet,if you can afford it, it will allow you to enable aa/af at the resolution you stated.

Huh? At 1280x1024, which is the resolution thedonutman is interested in running, the 256MB GT can run plenty of AA/AF.

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: tuteja1986

Originally posted by: Lonyo

Originally posted by: thedonutman
The 512mb 3850 over here is around £120, and the 256 is around £100. The 2870 is around 140-150. And the cheapest 8800GT is 120-130 ish.

So at the price of the GT 256mb, its between that and the 3850 512mb.

£95 for a 256MB HD3850 from Overclockers.co.uk
£111 for a 512MB HD3850 from the same site.
£120 or so for an 8800GT 256MB
£150 or so for an HD3870

8800GT 256MB for £120 , where you get that because my pal at UK has been to upgrade his graphic card

Not in stock yet.
http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.aspx?sku=343127 £122
The higher clocked XFX is £135 (650/1600 vs 600/1400)

 

[Ryan Norton]

I play all my games at 1680x1050. I'd like to be able to use at least 2x FSAA and play at the highest detail settings. I have a 7900GTX stock frequency now and I'd like to upgrade. I'm willing to spend around $260 and I'm willing to wait for 8800GT pricing/availability to get down there.

My question (and the reason I posted in this thread) is whether it's worth considering a 3870 at all, or should I just wait for 8800GTs to reach my budget? In other words, if I abandon patience and spring for a 3870 now, will I be crippling my ability to play games at the native 1680x1050 res of my LCD?

New G92 8800GTS is probably going to be out of my budget but I'd consider it if it's an amazing product.

 

[tuteja1986]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: tuteja1986

Originally posted by: taltamir
is that 1.3 FPS on some of those benchmarks? way to go finding some unrealistic benchmarks to skew results... who cares... And those results are heavily and artificially skewed in AMD's favor.

http://www.computerbase.de/art..._radeon_hd_3850_rv670/
Computer base is a highly respectable website :!

You mean for those of us who have even heard of it? Nah Tut. Use the bench sites we all commonly put at least some stock in. FS, AT, Xbit.

All of a sudden, computerbase is "da bomb".

arr :! like your fav video review webiste like hardocp who has time again been proven untrustworthy. Computerbase is the bomb :!

XBIT lab is great but they do take their sweet time to release their review.

Firingsquad is probably my 3rd fav GPU review website and it was my fav 1.5 year ago.

 

[SniperDaws]

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products...tegories=512&OrderBy=1

still no stock but a little cheaper.

 

[SniperDaws]

Originally posted by: tuteja1986

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: tuteja1986

Originally posted by: taltamir
is that 1.3 FPS on some of those benchmarks? way to go finding some unrealistic benchmarks to skew results... who cares... And those results are heavily and artificially skewed in AMD's favor.

http://www.computerbase.de/art..._radeon_hd_3850_rv670/
Computer base is a highly respectable website :!

You mean for those of us who have even heard of it? Nah Tut. Use the bench sites we all commonly put at least some stock in. FS, AT, Xbit.

All of a sudden, computerbase is "da bomb".

arr :! like your fav video review webiste like hardocp who has time again been proven untrustworthy. Computerbase is the bomb :!

XBIT lab is great but they do take their sweet time to release their review.

Firingsquad is probably my 3rd fav GPU review website and it was my fav 1.5 year ago.

So according to you and your review the ATI HD 3870 is the faster card?

 

[tuteja1986]

Originally posted by: SniperDaws

Originally posted by: tuteja1986

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: tuteja1986

Originally posted by: taltamir
is that 1.3 FPS on some of those benchmarks? way to go finding some unrealistic benchmarks to skew results... who cares... And those results are heavily and artificially skewed in AMD's favor.

http://www.computerbase.de/art..._radeon_hd_3850_rv670/
Computer base is a highly respectable website :!

You mean for those of us who have even heard of it? Nah Tut. Use the bench sites we all commonly put at least some stock in. FS, AT, Xbit.

All of a sudden, computerbase is "da bomb".

arr :! like your fav video review webiste like hardocp who has time again been proven untrustworthy. Computerbase is the bomb :!

XBIT lab is great but they do take their sweet time to release their review.

Firingsquad is probably my 3rd fav GPU review website and it was my fav 1.5 year ago.

So according to you and your review the ATI HD 3870 is the faster card?

For keys :

Firingsquad 8800GT 256MB AA/AF benchmark :


Fear 1920x1200x32 4xAA 16xAF
XFX OC 8800GT 512 : 60
3870 512 : 54
XFX OC 8800GT 256MB : 52
8800GT 256MB : 46
3850 256MB : 45



Company of heroes 1920x1200x32 4xAA 16xAF
XFX OC 8800GT 512 : 86
3870 512 : 67.7
XFX OC 8800GT 256MB : 73.2
8800GT 256MB : 68.2
3850 256MB : 52.4


Oblivion HDR 1920x1200x32 4xAA 16xAF
XFX OC 8800GT 512 : 42.5
3870 512 : 37
XFX OC 8800GT 256MB : 5.9
8800GT 256MB : 5.2
3850 256MB : 32.2


HL 2 episode 2 1920x1200x32 4xAA 16xAF
XFX OC 8800GT 512 : 68.4
3870 512 : 48.8
XFX OC 8800GT 256MB : 57
8800GT 256MB : 51.2
3850 256MB : 39.3


Lost Planet DX9 1920x1200x32 2xAA 16xAF
XFX OC 8800GT 512 : 24.3
3870 512 : 19.3
XFX OC 8800GT 256MB : 16.1
8800GT 256MB : 14.6
3850 256MB : 12.1


Crysis Medium Quailty 1920x1200x32 2xAA 16xAF
XFX OC 8800GT 512 : 24.3
3870 512 : 16.5
XFX OC 8800GT 256MB : 5.1
8800GT 256MB : 4.9
3850 256MB : 1.5


Call of duty 4 1920x1200x32 4xAA 16xAF
XFX OC 8800GT 512 : 38.5
3870 512 : 33.1
XFX OC 8800GT 256MB : 32.6
8800GT 256MB : 28.5
3850 256MB : 28.3


SniperDaws :

I don't think 3870 or 8800GT 256MB have either cliamed victory when higher res with AA/AF is used. Depends on the game you going to play.

Also the reason i even posted was because of zeroburrito statment on 8800GT 256mb totally destroying 3870.
" the 8800gt 256 completely humiliates the other 2 cards in any resolution. " which is totally iuntrue :!

 

[SniperDaws]

Sorry mate im a knob, i thought you were benching the 512mb 8800GT i forgot completly that you were all talking about the 256mb.


Sorry

 

[Martimus]

Oblivion HDR 1920x1200x32 4xAA 16xAF

How did you get that to run? When I try to turn Anti-Aliasing on in Oblivion, it turns the HDR off. HDR is far more important to me, so I keep AA off, but if there is a way to get both, I would like to know it!

 

[JACKDRUID]

Originally posted by: tuteja1986

Originally posted by: zeroburrito
the 8800gt 256 completely humiliates the other 2 cards in any resolution.

THATS BS


Computerbase

HD3870 512
8800GT 512
HD3850 256

DX 9 benchmark

ONLY at Computerbase . ANYWHERE else GT 512 is clearly faster..