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superbooga

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Originally posted by: Astrallite
I'm definitely making assumptions about how AA scales. The guys at Xtreme News attribute it to poor AA scaling with the new GTs, hopefully we can see the difference between the 8800 Ultra and 8800 GT on standard settings to clear this up.

I don't understand what you're saying. The Ultra is more than 50% faster than the GTS, yet it's only 30% faster than the GT for the 3.0 score. Furthermore, the GT is actually at an disadvantage with AA because of the reduced bandwidth. In conclusion, the GT will kick the GTS's ass quite easily.
 

lopri

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I just got my 8800 GTX back from my friend who I sold it to some time ago. (Got him a 7950GX2 and he's happy) To me it's a sad state that we're arguing whether a brand new card can beat last year's 2nd best. Single-slot design is nice but it's really not a deal maker any more since today's motherboards come equipped everything including kitchen sinks. Hopefully NV has fixed/improved HD decoding with this SKU - then I might think of step-up from a 8600 GT for my media PC.
 

alcoholbob

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Originally posted by: superbooga
Originally posted by: Astrallite
I'm definitely making assumptions about how AA scales. The guys at Xtreme News attribute it to poor AA scaling with the new GTs, hopefully we can see the difference between the 8800 Ultra and 8800 GT on standard settings to clear this up.

I don't understand what you're saying. The Ultra is more than 50% faster than the GTS, yet it's only 30% faster than the GT for the 3.0 score. Furthermore, the GT is actually at an disadvantage with AA because of the reduced bandwidth. In conclusion, the GT will kick the GTS's ass quite easily.

Can you show me any links? Because I'm having trouble finding GTX 06 scores at 50% above the GTSs.
 

superbooga

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Originally posted by: Astrallite
Originally posted by: superbooga
Originally posted by: Astrallite
I'm definitely making assumptions about how AA scales. The guys at Xtreme News attribute it to poor AA scaling with the new GTs, hopefully we can see the difference between the 8800 Ultra and 8800 GT on standard settings to clear this up.

I don't understand what you're saying. The Ultra is more than 50% faster than the GTS, yet it's only 30% faster than the GT for the 3.0 score. Furthermore, the GT is actually at an disadvantage with AA because of the reduced bandwidth. In conclusion, the GT will kick the GTS's ass quite easily.

Can you show me any links? Because I'm having trouble finding GTX 06 scores at 50% above the GTSs.

I was referring to the individual (2.0 and 3.0) scores in 06. Look at Tom's charts.
 

cmdrdredd

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Originally posted by: lopri
I just got my 8800 GTX back from my friend who I sold it to some time ago. (Got him a 7950GX2 and he's happy) To me it's a sad state that we're arguing whether a brand new card can beat last year's 2nd best. Single-slot design is nice but it's really not a deal maker any more since today's motherboards come equipped everything including kitchen sinks. Hopefully NV has fixed/improved HD decoding with this SKU - then I might think of step-up from a 8600 GT for my media PC.

It's about price. This card will be significantly cheaper than an 8800GTS. So people who have not purchased a new card for a couple years may have something to look at now.
 

DSF

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Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: lopri
I just got my 8800 GTX back from my friend who I sold it to some time ago. (Got him a 7950GX2 and he's happy) To me it's a sad state that we're arguing whether a brand new card can beat last year's 2nd best. Single-slot design is nice but it's really not a deal maker any more since today's motherboards come equipped everything including kitchen sinks. Hopefully NV has fixed/improved HD decoding with this SKU - then I might think of step-up from a 8600 GT for my media PC.

It's about price. This card will be significantly cheaper than an 8800GTS. So people who have not purchased a new card for a couple years may have something to look at now.

Or people like me, who will be building a new gaming system soon and hope the GT will maximize bang for the buck.
 

NoStateofMind

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Well put me down for an EVGA 8800GT. I want a lifetime warranty and overclocking protection, unlike my current card
 

cmdrdredd

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Originally posted by: DSF
Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: lopri
I just got my 8800 GTX back from my friend who I sold it to some time ago. (Got him a 7950GX2 and he's happy) To me it's a sad state that we're arguing whether a brand new card can beat last year's 2nd best. Single-slot design is nice but it's really not a deal maker any more since today's motherboards come equipped everything including kitchen sinks. Hopefully NV has fixed/improved HD decoding with this SKU - then I might think of step-up from a 8600 GT for my media PC.

It's about price. This card will be significantly cheaper than an 8800GTS. So people who have not purchased a new card for a couple years may have something to look at now.

Or people like me, who will be building a new gaming system soon and hope the GT will maximize bang for the buck.

BINGO.

Similar to the new 2950 cards from AMD. They are much cheaper than the HD2900XT and should offer similar performance with some enhancements (UVD, and direct hardware AA).

The drawback is possible lower performance at high resolutions.

It's good for both companies.
 

schneiderguy

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Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: lopri
I just got my 8800 GTX back from my friend who I sold it to some time ago. (Got him a 7950GX2 and he's happy) To me it's a sad state that we're arguing whether a brand new card can beat last year's 2nd best. Single-slot design is nice but it's really not a deal maker any more since today's motherboards come equipped everything including kitchen sinks. Hopefully NV has fixed/improved HD decoding with this SKU - then I might think of step-up from a 8600 GT for my media PC.

It's about price. This card will be significantly cheaper than an 8800GTS. So people who have not purchased a new card for a couple years may have something to look at now.

Yup, I'm probably going to buy a 8800gt as an upgrade to my 7600gt. The other 8800's and 2900's are too expensive and take too much power for me, and are probably overkill for a 1280*1024 monitor.
 

aiya24

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i really hope there isn't lower performance at higher resolutions. after playing the CoD4 demo, i need a new card by the end of the year and i might just jump on a 8800GT512 before the HD2950Pro Gladiator is released. lets see if i can hold out :clock: :shocked:
 

alcoholbob

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I'm hoping for decent performance too, at 16x10. I know the new GT has more shaders which sounds great for SM3.0 but I wonder how much the 320 to 256bit bus has constricted performance.

For those of us with older systems (I'm on basically the EOL of a 939 4400+) the most important thing is minimum fps. As long as it's in the high 20s at standard res with full details on, I'm perfectly happy (excepting Crysis...I'm not even expecting highs of 20 with full detail on that sucker )
 

Munky

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Originally posted by: superbooga
The reduced bandwidth isn't going to hurt the 8800GT until you get to 2560x1600 with 4xAA.

Lol. At that resoultion it would be gpu-limited long before memory bandwidth has any effect. On the other hand, if you do something like HDR with 8x or 16x AA, then even at 1280x1024 the reduced bandwidth might hurt performance.
 

taltamir

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the question is... how much the performance increases in playable settings... the GTS might end up outperforming the GT in settings where both are producing over 100 fps... but the question is... when you raise your game settings on real current games to the point where you are getting under 60 FPS... which card will perform better?

3dmax performance is ALWAYS irrelevant, especially for DX10 gaming...

And those figures might very well be fake, considering the cards aren't out yet and everyone is all hush hush about them...

So I am gonna wait until the actual cards are released...
 

imported_Shaq

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Originally posted by: munky
Originally posted by: Rusin
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Game performance
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According to that Geforce 8800 GT(I'd presume that it was 512MB version they were testing) would fit between old 8800 GTS 640MB and old 8800 GTX

I call shens on those benches.

It seems strange that it beats a GTX by a good margin in 3DMark06, but loses by a healthy amount in games, and it is the same GPU architecture.
 

taltamir

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no, it makes PERFECT SENSE that it looses in 3d mark but beats it in games... thats because 3dmark is unrealistic. and is trying to emulate older games... while newer games simply have different designs to which newer cards have been optimized.
 

Munky

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it makes absolutely no sense, because nvidia is not basing the 8800gt on a new architecture, so just as the ultra beats the gtx in all benches (except on the ones in question...) then the gtx should beat the 8800gt in all benches simply because it's more powerful card.
 

SniperDaws

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im all excited now, im going to be getting me one of those little monkey's i think, when are they supposed to be out ?
 

Cookie Monster

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In cases where 8800GT outperforms the 8800GTX, i do think tthe SPs found on G92s are more efficent compared to SPs in G80. I would like to see more reviews though.

Looks like a great card for the money.
 

SniperDaws

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Whats the estimated cost for the 8800GT ? and if you post in US Dollars can you tell me how much the 8800GTS is going for at the moment so i can compare thanks.
 

alcoholbob

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Minimum on newegg is $280 for 320MB 8800GTS, $260 After Rebate.

The 8800GT should be $200 for the 256mb version and $250 for the 512mb version.

And these I assume will be online prices for the most part, *maybe* a few large retailers like Fry's will carry it for street price, but most retailers I've seen (such as Best Buy) do not use msrp (they sell 8600GT for $240 at my BB!).
 
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